Kevin Samuels Discussion Thread

[Apollo Creed]

What power do I have to force somebody to do anything?

The best i can do is model peace between a man and a woman in the home. It's on them to create it in their own lives. Hopefully, the babies benefit. Bc i see no way to address the babies without first addressing the parents who raise them.

Do you have any ideas?

i’m just gonna say good luck lol.
The men who understand what has become of what America is are already taking action in the shadows. Kev is just exposing the issue but his platform isnt going to fix anything because these people can not be fixed. This issue is an American issue as all groups are now having these issues (while not in the large numbers as black people for obvious reasons).

 

[Ahadi]

Yeah, her video was fire.

Someone said they wanted a white chick lmao.

They also kept saying they want Tiara Scoops back in the comments. I felt that she probably wanted him to take that down for some reason.

Tiara definitely emailed him. She wasn’t trying to be known as the money world girl



KS’s attention shot past her and now she’s a fitness girl turned money world girl. Ppl calling her that all in her comments.

 

[HarlemHottie]

i’m just gonna say good luck lol.
The men who understand what has become of what America is are already taking action in the shadows. Kev is just exposing the issue but his platform isnt going to fix anything because these people can not be fixed. This issue is an American issue as all groups are now having these issues (while not in the large numbers as black people for obvious reasons).

All due respect, this is what they said to my mother when she was a teen working the Panthers breakfast program. But i bet you kids all over this nation are benefiting from her work.


I know it might seem bleak, like a losing proposition, but that's how it's always been here, yet we keep pushing. I was literally raised for this type of fight, i just need to pin point a lane and an approach, which is why i asked here. I wasnt expecting to be demoralized. That's not what we do. If KS followed such advice, we wouldn't be having this conversation rn.

 

[Apollo Creed]

All due respect, this is what they said to my mother when she was a teen working the Panthers breakfast program. But i bet you kids all over this nation are benefiting from her work.


I know it might seem bleak, like a losing proposition, but that's how it's always been here, yet we keep pushing. I was literally raised for this type of fight, i just need to pin point a lane and an approach, which is why i asked here. I wasnt expecting to be demoralized. That's not what we do. If KS followed such advice, we shouldn't be having this conversation rn.

you’re comparing your mother being a teen in a completely different generation to modern day adults. Do your thing.

 

[Treblemaka]

Why do yall watch kevin samuels? Do you think he hates black women? Do you think he should be able to give advice after 2 divorces?

Please answer these in your own words. Really curious to see the answers. Had this convo on twitter, women were OUTRAGED

- I dont really watch KS anymore, he's a one trick pony with repeated talking points if you seen 4 of his shows you've seen them all. I started watching him because I wanted to get a better understanding of the type of men that enjoy his shows and the type of women that call him as well as how he portrays himself.

- I don't think he hates black women, but he doesn't view them as equals to black men

- I notice that he doesn't really give advice on how to maintain a relationship, which makes sense. His life experience shows he doesn't know how to select and maintain a life partner since he's been divorced twice.

KS is an opportunist imo. That's not necessarily a bad thing but he doesn't holistically have our community's interest at heart over lining his own pockets. I think alot of his followers (male and female) are delusional and use his talking points when they don't fully understand them or they don't really apply. I don't believe most HVM that have healthy relationships with women find his show appealing or would ever donate to it.

Tldr: Kevin knows his real audience, how to manipulate them, and how to provide entertainment that makes them feel better about their own lives even when those talking points don't apply to them.

 

[HarlemHottie]

you’re comparing your mother being a teen in a completely different generation to modern day adults. Do your thing.

My mother was a teen bogarding grown, non black shop owners for cereal, milk, and the necessary accoutrements to serve them.

If they could force the federal government to include a new line item, we can show bp how to live in peace. Thats light work. You see how much of an effect a single person has had already. Younger women (and men) are listening.

 

[Apollo Creed]

My mother was a teen bogarding grown, non black shop owners for cereal, milk, and the necessary accoutrements to serve them.

If they could force the federal government to include a new line item, we can show bp how to live in peace. Thats light work. You see how much of an effect a single person has had already. Younger women (and men) are listening.

you’re rambling about nothing at this point, not even trying to be mean lol. Look at the total number women posters in this thread and look at their stance vs yours.

if you want to believe in fairy tales go for it, but men will do what they need to do to survive.

 

[sosayeth]

This is interesting. Around 55:00, KS challenges a happily married woman (ds, short natural hair if you scrolling through the show), asking why she doesn't engage in the internet back and forth harder, why she 'lets' deviants, scallywags, and spinsters out- argue her. Its a question i was asked earlier itt.

My response, and hers, was that im too nice and, frankly, too happy to fight that hard over somebody else's life. He pushed back, arguing that we're letting them set a stereotype for us as bw and so we should fight for our own self image.

Fair point, and Im considering it. But, it may be important to note that the happy, 'chosen' women were chosen partly because they weren't argumentative. I stay tf away from those with whom I'm inclined to argue. When/ if approached, i hold my own, but im not gon run a whole Twitter page devoted to debating single women on some shyt they don't know. I don't have that kinda free time. My man would start to feel a way, and rightfully so.

Thoughts? Imo, bm need to create more of us in order to fight. I can't expect a single girl, unsure of her own marriage prospects, to go super hard for bm. At the same time, its expected for a married woman to not be on sm all the gd time. The white lady i posted a few pages back only does a few short vids throughout the day, bc thats all the time she has.

I've not thought about it in this way. Even though you're living a far better life than Instagram whores and the gullible women trying to keep up with them, it would even be difficult to show that, because women by and large in the world today, especially in the black community, believe if you're not hoeing every weekend in a different city over the summer, your life must be miserable and oppressive. Remember the IG Live he had with that one IG whore? After twenty minutes of frontin' for her followers, she broke down and admitted she's actually miserable and hates how her life ended up. On the other hand, even if other housewives and you were to allow access to your lifestyle via YouTube or TikTok... no ratchet drama... no different dikk every night... they'd find it "boring."

It's always hilarious when goofy women say "men take up for other men" and we "stick together." If that were the case, this century old Western feminist delusion would be over in a matter of days. There's never been any unity among men, because we have too many rabid animals in our midst who compromise the whole because all they think about day in and day out is sexsexp*ssyp*ssygettingmydikksuckedfukkingfukkingfukking. Either by way of being a "natural," being "red pill," or "simping." They're all the same at the end of the day. The Vagin-alliance will continue to act however it wants (however detrimental to society in the long-run), because at the end of the day, a large group of uncontrollable wild animals will be there to satiate their uncontrollable need for constant attention.

 

[HarlemHottie]

you’re rambling about nothing at this point, not even trying to be mean lol. Look at the total number women posters in this thread and look at their stance vs yours.

if you want to believe in fairy tales go for it, but men will do what they need to do to survive.

Im not rambling. Im speaking to the impossible and how regular ppl can move the needle. And I gave an irrefutable example of a small force against a much larger one.

Ofc men will do what they have to, as will all adult players in this game. Who's arguing that? But, as elders, are we not expected to pass on what we've learned? "I got mine, you better get yours" is how we got into this mess in the first place.

 

[sosayeth]

Just say you dont want people watching his shyt. fukk out of here with that extra shyt.

Who gives a fukk about women being outraged. Where they outrage when they was saying was doing this in the 90s?

Kevin's got a lot of the women on the ropes and now they wanna scream, "Time out! Time out! We need some... balance," but when the ball was in their court from the '70s until the last couple years, they kept pressing and pushing boundaries further and further. That's why I go to one hundred immediately with chicks like FakePearl the Empress with No Clothes and Internet femininsects. They're not interested in cordial, respectful, historically accurate and factual conversation for the betterment of the black community or the comfortable, modern society they relish in. They want to have their cake AND men's cake and eat both too, and they know ninety percent of guys won't put their foot down because the possibility of a whiff of vagina.

Women wanted "equality," so why does a stupid woman think I'm going to treat her better than I would treat a stupid man?

 

[Lady.Libra.]

I know of many relationships that have lasted through cheating, even after one of the parties have insisted that there's zero tolerance. Cheating is very prevalent in relationships, some nikkas are open in the fact that they cheat

Just curious - Approximately how many of those relationships lasted when the woman violated????

 

[HarlemHottie]

I've not thought about it in this way. Even though you're living a far better life than Instagram whores and the gullible women trying to keep up with them, it would even be difficult to show that, because women by and large in the world today, especially in the black community, believe if you're not hoeing every weekend in a different city over the summer, your life must be miserable and oppressive. Remember the IG Live he had with that one IG whore? After twenty minutes of frontin' for her followers, she broke down and admitted she's actually miserable and hates how her life ended up. On the other hand, even if other housewives and you were to allow access to your lifestyle via YouTube or TikTok... no ratchet drama... no different dikk every night... they'd find it "boring

Exactly! The parts of my life that I'm willing to share are dreadfully boring. That's why I'm trying to come up with an interesting, watchable model.

I actually do think "men" stick together as much as yall claim "women" do, which is to say, only the majorities of either. The women y'all claim stick together are the majority: unmarried bw. Same for unmarried bm. The loudest people are the most unhappy. Change those numbers and we might get somewhere. There are enough women for men to be choosy.

 

[Mastamimd]

Just curious - Approximately how many of those relationships lasted when the woman violated????

No idea...women never tell me when they cheat, men however...guess you got me there

 

[HarlemHottie]

Women wanted "equality," so why does a stupid woman think I'm going to treat her better than I would treat a stupid man?

In all fairness, i expect to be treated better.

But i work for it.

 

[Lady.Libra.]

No idea...women never tell me when they cheat, men however...guess you got me there

It's always been my opinion that men typically 1. leave cheating women fairly quickly (even if he is also unfaithful). 2. stay, cheat, & leave eventually. 3. stay and expect the trust level to still be intact post cheating. Etc.

I think cheating women are more prone to leave vs having longterm affairs, multiple cheat partners, side pieces, etc.

IDK...I was just curious. T/Y for replying.