Kirk Franklin's Daughter Is A Dime Brehs

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I keep forgetting this is the coli. No woman can compare to what y'all lay next to every night.

Even the women I lay up with I don't gas them up. I say simple shyt but not calling them dimes or whatever. No one is perfect and it works in my favor if I call out flaws in these women bodies in a sneaky way to keep their self esteem low but not low enough where they still don't have pride.

All that smart, strong woman bullshyt is not for me. bytch just be a woman, let me do all the macho cowboy bullshyt.
 

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BuT to answer your question simply...it is wrong to pass on your own insecurities to your children and if perchance yoir child does nit end up looking how you expected them to then yes they will end up damaged for it.

So who is to say KF daughter won't be passing down her insecurities to her child if he/she doesn't look like what she expects? It seems like you simply dismissed her line of thinking because she is mixed herself.
It is possible for two light skin people to produce a brown skin child. She has placed a preference on blue eyes & blonde hair, what if one of her children comes out brown skin and the other comes out like Mowry's son. Deep down she may think the blue eyed blonde child is more beautiful than the brown skinned child, and that thinking may express itself unknowingly, or maybe she won't care at all.
IMO a mixed woman with a bi-racial man idolizing blue eyes and blonde hair and hoping her children look a certain way is just a bad as a non-black woman with a black man doing it, black man non-black woman doing it, or a black woman with a non-black man doing it. It is all rooted in white supremacy, and reinforcing it is no way to combat it.
 

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So who is to say KF daughter won't be passing down her insecurities to her child if he/she doesn't look like what she expects? It seems like you simply dismissed her line of thinking because she is mixed herself.
It is possible for two light skin people to produce a brown skin child. She has placed a preference on blue eyes & blonde hair, what if one of her children comes out brown skin and the other comes out like Mowry's son. Deep down she may think the blue eyed blonde child is more beautiful than the brown skinned child, and that thinking may express itself unknowingly, or maybe she won't care at all.
IMO a mixed woman with a bi-racial man idolizing blue eyes and blonde hair and hoping her children look a certain way is just a bad as a non-black woman with a black man doing it, black man non-black woman doing it, or a black woman with a non-black man doing it. It is all rooted in white supremacy, and reinforcing it is no way to combat it.
I understand...I don't disagree with you. Unfortunately, these are the ramifications of shadeism. What I am saying is her thinking is a product of her environment and perceived value that being mixed/light skinned has. It's not right but it is the reality we live in.
 

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So who is to say KF daughter won't be passing down her insecurities to her child if he/she doesn't look like what she expects? It seems like you simply dismissed her line of thinking because she is mixed herself.
It is possible for two light skin people to produce a brown skin child. She has placed a preference on blue eyes & blonde hair, what if one of her children comes out brown skin and the other comes out like Mowry's son. Deep down she may think the blue eyed blonde child is more beautiful than the brown skinned child, and that thinking may express itself unknowingly, or maybe she won't care at all.
IMO a mixed woman with a bi-racial man idolizing blue eyes and blonde hair and hoping her children look a certain way is just a bad as a non-black woman with a black man doing it, black man non-black woman doing it, or a black woman with a non-black man doing it. It is all rooted in white supremacy, and reinforcing it is no way to combat it.
:whoa:This where I have to step in. If you looked at her insta, she has brown eyed biracial children she adores as well. All she said was she wished she could
make those blue eyes, we don't know how she would react to her having a darker baby, but according to her insta, she loves the way Kanye and Kim's baby looks.

We can't apply our insecurities to mixed people and call them a villain for liking a few different possible properties their babies can have. Would it suddenly
be cool if she said she wanted specifically a dark, brown eyed baby with anything but golden locks?
At what point are we gonna stop judging those we can't empathize with?
 
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:whoa:This where I have to step in. If you looked at her insta, she has brown eyed biracial children she adores as well. All she said was she wished she could
make those blue eyes, we don't know how we would react to her having a darker baby, but according to her insta, she loves the way Kanye and Kim's baby looks.

We can't apply our insecurities to mixed people and call them a villain for liking a few different possible properties their babies can make. Would it suddenly
be cool if she said she wanted specifically a dark, brown eyed baby with anything but golden locks?
At what point are we gonna stop judging those we can't empathize with?
You put it in a better way than I did.
 

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You put it in a better way than I did.
It just seems like it is cool to say "Black is beautiful" but anything but is labeled a product of white
supremacy. When someone is mixed race, they don't have the luxury of finality.
This girl isn't black. She isn't white. She is mixed, and her baby can look like a ton of things
as a result. Why is she brainwashed for liking traits that she VERY WELL could make
with her partner, who also happens to be mixed race?

It is divisive of any fully black person or fully white to use this against a mixed person. We don't have that issue
of having to balance identities.
 
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Perhaps I didnt communicate it properly...she was warning that shadeism and to take greater care of my appearance (naturally a tomboy). She's always taught me to be proud of my skin colour...which she didn't need to because I love darskinned complexions. It's great to tell your child to embrace themselves but my mom is of the old school and she belives in telling her child things even it makes me uncomfortable but trust me she was not malicious about it. It's better to prwpare your child and let him/her know tgat

She could have just told you to take better care of your appearance and to leave it that. Bringing up your darkness like it was some kind of achiles heel was poor form IMO. This train of thought is why we have many of our own trying to have mix children, bleach their skin, relax their hair, wear colored contact lenses, wear weave, and wear skin lightening foundation. These are means of escaping blackness because they think like your mother thinks - no one will want me if I'm black. Yes, I am aware that browner and darker skinned women have it harder due to the evil of white supremacy, but this means that they should be encouraged to love themselves through positive reinforcement, not told to conform and go above and beyond because "it is what it is". That doesn't help anything. That doesn't combat the core of the issue. Black people who think like that are going with the flow rather than trying to break the chains.

You're either for white supremacy or against it, and anyone who views the shade of your blackness as making you better or worse is definitely for white supremacy to me. Divisiveness and carrying around a superiority/inferiority complex amongst us is exactly what white people want us to do. It keeps the attention off their crooked ass tactics and on us - a community that should be unified regardless of shade or gender. That's why when I see women on instagram doing dumb ass #teamdarkskin, #teasmlightskin, #lightskinbeauty, and other garbage like that I immediately attempt to educate them on why this is poor form.

Having this conversation really made me think about how deep the vetting process needs to be before I marry a woman. Lord knows if I marry a black women of lighter complexion who tells our darker skin daughter that she needs to dress better to compete with light skin women I will spazz something serious.
 

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nikka cheesin cuz he know he got a prize on his hands
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She's with a lame :camby:










Naw I'm just hating. I'd wear that Waldo outfit proudly if I'm with her :mjcry:
 

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I think North is adorable too, but we are talking about the most recent post she made.
She is still idolizing features she was not born with, and her children may not have.
If it was a blue eyed blond hair white women with a white man saying she hopes her baby looks like a blue eyed Shirley Temple it'd be cool because she wants her daughter to essentially look like her. These people are idolizing features that they themselves do not have. In essence they do not want their children to look like them. The only insecurities lie with the people idolizing those features not with the people calling them out for it.
 

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:whoa:This where I have to step in. If you looked at her insta, she has brown eyed biracial children she adores as well. All she said was she wished she could
make those blue eyes, we don't know how she would react to her having a darker baby, but according to her insta, she loves the way Kanye and Kim's baby looks.

We can't apply our insecurities to mixed people and call them a villain for liking a few different possible properties their babies can have. Would it suddenly
be cool if she said she wanted specifically a dark, brown eyed baby with anything but golden locks?
At what point are we gonna stop judging those we can't empathize with?

This is the second time someone has said that this is about insecurity this week, and it's really, REALLY not. Nothing about a predominantly black women hoping that her child looks like a cac makes me insecure. It makes me sad and frustrated that the tentacles of white supremacy has dug themselves so deeply into some of our own . I am against this. I fight this. But it doesn't make me feel any less or more secure as a black man. I'm not under the impression that blackness is played out. I still believe firmly that the majority of black people prefer their own, but there is a sizable and LOUD minority who loves putting down blackness, separating themselves from blackness as much as possible, and diluting blackness in order to make themselves feel better about themselves and identify more with the people who put us in this position to begin with. I find this to be outrageously despicable, and people like that NEED to be rehabilitated. Like cacs, they tend to either be against black progression or completely apathetic to it, and that doesn't help us in anyway.

For the record, I actually don't find that woman to be attractive at all, and think the people in this thread calling her a dime are strange. It's not like I thought she was bad and then saw her c00nish ways and made a sudden u-turn lol.
 

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She could have just told you to take better care of your appearance and to leave it that. Bringing up your darkness like it was some kind of achiles heel was poor form IMO. This train of thought is why we have many of our own trying to have mix children, bleach their skin, relax their hair, wear colored contact lenses, wear weave, and wear skin lightening foundation. These are means of escaping blackness because they think like your mother thinks - no one will want me if I'm black. Yes, I am aware that browner and darker skinned women have it harder due to the evil of white supremacy, but this means that they should be encouraged to love themselves through positive reinforcement, not told to conform and go above and beyond because "it is what it is". That doesn't help anything. That doesn't combat the core of the issue. Black people who think like that are going with the flow rather than trying to break the chains.

You're either for white supremacy or against it, and anyone who views the shade of your blackness as making you better or worse is definitely for white supremacy to me. Divisiveness and carrying around a superiority/inferiority complex amongst us is exactly what white people want us to do. It keeps the attention off their crooked ass tactics and on us - a community that should be unified regardless of shade or gender. That's why when I see women on instagram doing dumb ass #teamdarkskin, #teasmlightskin, #lightskinbeauty, and other garbage like that I immediately attempt to educate them on why this is poor form.

Having this conversation really made me think about how deep the vetting process needs to be before I marry a woman. Lord knows if I marry a black women of lighter complexion who tells our darker skin daughter that she needs to dress better to compete with light skin women I will spazz something serious.

I understand what you are saying but I personally believe that pretending that shadeism does mot exist or sweeping it under the rug is disingenuous. You have yo understand in my 24 years of living my mom has never mentioned or alluded to skin complexiom until recently (in the last year)
Telling your darskinned child to embrace them self id not enough...you have to bring awareness about skin colour the same way that blacks havr talk about racism.
The reason why shadeism is considered less important it is due to fact that is often deemed as sexual preference. I doubt you can swy the same thing about race without opening cam of worms but the effects are still very damaging.
I serm so many darskinned girls around that are left playing catch up because they did not have parents to prepare them or give them the heads up. It's unfortunate but shadeism should be a serious topic of discussion in every household
 
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