That's my opinion, wishing doesn't have anything to do with it.
Kobe Response To Phil Jackson
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That's my opinion, wishing doesn't have anything to do with it.you're a person that has no clue what you're talking about.
Jordan didnt make no one better around him. PIPPEN did that.
who was the facilitator of that team? mike or scottie? we already know the answer to that question.
mike had one job. SCORE on dem fools. and if you get triple teammed, then kick it out. otherwise score score and score some more. the reason he averaged as many assists as he has for his career. is because he had shot makers on his teams(especially during the ring years). it wasnt nothing better then a slashing pippen. NOTHING. there was nothing better then a wide open kerr, or kukoc in the corner. or Ho grant at the FT line extended.
in addition they ran a lot. so that means they were on the break. this didnt just help mikes fg%. it also helped his assists, as well as pips. if you're constantly trapping people and running (like the heat do today). what do you think will happen? someone will push the rock and someone will receive the ball.defense stays in front of mike for the charge. he sides steps them lobs it to pip. DUNK for pip and vice versa. who was kobe's running mate in the first 3 peat? NO ONE, what about the last 2? uhhh NO one.
Who was the facilitator during the 3peat? KOBE
who was the facilitator during the last 2? KOBE
kobe doesnt make teammates better you say? oh really.
do you want me to bring up smush parkers stats pre kobe and post kobe?
to make that clown look better was magical.
lets take a look at smush.
Smush parker, you see his two best years were with KOBE BRYANT,..right
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Season Age Tm Lg Pos FG% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
2002-03 21 CLE NBA PG .402 0.6 1.8 .322 1.5 1.8 .831 0.4 1.4 1.8 2.5 0.7 0.2 2.0 1.6 6.2
2004-05 23 TOT NBA PG .419 0.2 0.8 .231 0.6 0.8 .692 0.3 0.5 0.8 0.9 0.3 0.0 1.2 1.0 3.0
2004-05 23 DET NBA PG .393 0.2 0.8 .222 0.8 1.2 .692 0.2 0.6 0.8 1.0 0.3 0.0 0.9 1.2 3.0
2004-05 23 PHO NBA PG .467 0.2 0.8 .250 0.0 0.0 0.4 0.2 0.6 0.8 0.4 0.0 1.8 0.6 3.0
2005-06 24 LAL NBA PG .447 1.5 4.0 .366 1.5 2.2 .694 0.5 2.9 3.3 3.7 1.7 0.2 1.8 2.6 11.5
2006-07 25 LAL NBA PG .436 1.3 3.7 .365 1.4 2.1 .646 0.5 2.0 2.5 2.8 1.5 0.1 1.9 2.6 11.1
2007-08 26 TOT NBA PG .348 0.6 2.8 .231 0.7 1.0 .679 0.1 1.7 1.8 3.0 0.9 0.2 1.6 2.1 5.9
2007-08 26 MIA NBA PG .315 0.7 2.7 .250 0.3 0.4 .750 0.2 1.9 2.1 1.7 0.6 0.3 0.9 1.4 4.8
2007-08 26 LAC NBA PG .362 0.6 2.8 .222 0.8 1.3 .667 0.1 1.6 1.7 3.6 1.0 0.2 1.9 2.5 6.4
Career NBA .426 1.1 3.1 .345 1.3 1.9 .708 0.4 2.0 2.4 2.9 1.2 0.2 1.8 2.2 9.0
</PRE>did jordan make pip better or was pip just that darn good? i think pip was just that darn good.
i say they made each other better as the years went on. iron sharpens iron.
but to prove it wasnt mike
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Rk Player Age MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
1 Scottie Pippen 28 38.3 8.7 17.8 .491 0.9 2.7 .320 3.8 5.7 .660 2.4 6.3 8.7 5.6 2.9 0.8 3.2 3.2 22.0
</PRE>^^Scottie's best season ever. NO MIke on that roster. 93-94 bulls.
because jordan wanted a guy to pass him and others the ball. taking that responsibility off of his plate. mike knew what and who he was. and he was not about to change for nobody. keep pip so he can facilitate. who in the world was going to give kemp the ball as often as he needed it to develop into the monster he became that year the bulls beat the sonics in the finals? jordan was not going to be that guy.
When it's not based on facts but hypotheticals and goes to the opposite of shaq's own personality then yes it is wishing and even more it's jordan stan fantasy.
You say that as a Kobe cocksucker who's agenda is obvious. This whole conversation is based on a hypothetical you clown. You saying that Shaq never fell back is not even true, he fell back to Wade when he was on the Heat.
you're a person that has no clue what you're talking about.
Jordan didnt make no one better around him. PIPPEN did that.
who was the facilitator of that team? mike or scottie? we already know the answer to that question.
mike had one job. SCORE on dem fools. and if you get triple teammed, then kick it out. otherwise score score and score some more. the reason he averaged as many assists as he has for his career. is because he had shot makers on his teams(especially during the ring years). it wasnt nothing better then a slashing pippen. NOTHING. there was nothing better then a wide open kerr, or kukoc in the corner. or Ho grant at the FT line extended.
in addition they ran a lot. so that means they were on the break. this didnt just help mikes fg%. it also helped his assists, as well as pips. if you're constantly trapping people and running (like the heat do today). what do you think will happen? someone will push the rock and someone will receive the ball.defense stays in front of mike for the charge. he sides steps them lobs it to pip. DUNK for pip and vice versa. who was kobe's running mate in the first 3 peat? NO ONE, what about the last 2? uhhh NO one.
Who was the facilitator during the 3peat? KOBE
who was the facilitator during the last 2? KOBE
kobe doesnt make teammates better you say? oh really.
do you want me to bring up smush parkers stats pre kobe and post kobe?
to make that clown look better was magical.
lets take a look at smush.
Smush parker, you see his two best years were with KOBE BRYANT,..right
you trying to tell me mike would've made this clown better? LOL at that one. mike would've punched smush in the mouth and got smush traded ASAP. thats jordan leadership.Code:Season Age Tm Lg Pos FG% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS 2002-03 21 CLE NBA PG .402 0.6 1.8 .322 1.5 1.8 .831 0.4 1.4 1.8 2.5 0.7 0.2 2.0 1.6 6.2 2004-05 23 TOT NBA PG .419 0.2 0.8 .231 0.6 0.8 .692 0.3 0.5 0.8 0.9 0.3 0.0 1.2 1.0 3.0 2004-05 23 DET NBA PG .393 0.2 0.8 .222 0.8 1.2 .692 0.2 0.6 0.8 1.0 0.3 0.0 0.9 1.2 3.0 2004-05 23 PHO NBA PG .467 0.2 0.8 .250 0.0 0.0 0.4 0.2 0.6 0.8 0.4 0.0 1.8 0.6 3.0 2005-06 24 LAL NBA PG .447 1.5 4.0 .366 1.5 2.2 .694 0.5 2.9 3.3 3.7 1.7 0.2 1.8 2.6 11.5 2006-07 25 LAL NBA PG .436 1.3 3.7 .365 1.4 2.1 .646 0.5 2.0 2.5 2.8 1.5 0.1 1.9 2.6 11.1 2007-08 26 TOT NBA PG .348 0.6 2.8 .231 0.7 1.0 .679 0.1 1.7 1.8 3.0 0.9 0.2 1.6 2.1 5.9 2007-08 26 MIA NBA PG .315 0.7 2.7 .250 0.3 0.4 .750 0.2 1.9 2.1 1.7 0.6 0.3 0.9 1.4 4.8 2007-08 26 LAC NBA PG .362 0.6 2.8 .222 0.8 1.3 .667 0.1 1.6 1.7 3.6 1.0 0.2 1.9 2.5 6.4 Career NBA .426 1.1 3.1 .345 1.3 1.9 .708 0.4 2.0 2.4 2.9 1.2 0.2 1.8 2.2 9.0
did jordan make pip better or was pip just that darn good? i think pip was just that darn good.
i say they made each other better as the years went on. iron sharpens iron.
but to prove it wasnt mike
Code:Rk Player Age MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS 1 Scottie Pippen 28 38.3 8.7 17.8 .491 0.9 2.7 .320 3.8 5.7 .660 2.4 6.3 8.7 5.6 2.9 0.8 3.2 3.2 22.0
^^Scottie's best season ever. NO MIke on that roster. 93-94 bulls.
The 80s had magic, 90s had Jordan, 00s had Duncan.
Oh yeah. Didn't read.
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You ignore shaq and jordan's egos who was much worse than kobe yet my agenda is obvious? FOH
And shaq fell back to wade because he was beefing with kobe you clown.
I didn't ignore anything, I took the perception of their egos into account when forming my opinion. You just don't like my opinion because you're a pathetic Kobe fanboy.You ignore shaq and jordan's egos who was much worse than kobe yet my agenda is obvious? FOH
And shaq fell back to wade because he was beefing with kobe you clown.
Shaq falling back to Wade wasn't about him beefing with Kobe(gotdamn you're a fanboy), it was about him recognizing that Wade was the better player and that it was best for the team. Falling back to Kobe during his prime wasn't what was best for the team so he had every right to butt heads with Kobe as far as I'm concerned. Kobe was in the wrong in that situation. Him jumping the gun trying to fight Shaq for the main-man role when he wasn't the better player probably cost them a title or 2.
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Same reason why Wade let Lebron come through usurp the throne in his city; Some n!ggas are just back seat n!ggas
Kobe, Jordan and Shaq be like
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QUOTE=Nima0614;4235868]these dudes think MJ would be happy to split the touches and points with shaq. If mj played with Shaq his # wouldnt be close to what they are now and im sure at one point hed get mad and want it to be him alone. THats why he Pippen was perfect for Jordan never cared about being the man yet did all the lil things that make jordan seem godly now. Remember who performed better without the other in their career 
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[/QUOTE]Same reason why Wade let Lebron come through usurp the throne in his city; Some n!ggas are just back seat n!ggas
Kobe, Jordan and Shaq be like
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If Jordan won 10 titles in a row with Shaq would people consider him the greatest player of all time........................or Shaq.
i love how you make it sound so simple
shaq wasn't playing second fiddle to anyone in his prime. ANY-ONE
and we all know how emotional he is.
jordan used to pick on his teammates Hard
jordan woulda called him a lazy fakkit and they woulda hated eachother
"It doesn't matter whose team it is. Nobody cares. I don't, Karl [Malone] doesn't, Gary [Payton] doesn't, and our teammates and the fans don't either. There's more to life than whose team this is. But this is his team, so it's time for him to act like it. That means no more coming into camp fat and out of shape, when your team is relying on your leadership on and off the court."
Now Kobe said that in an interview and Shaq threatened to kill the n!gga
Now we know Jordan woulda said it to the n!gga in the middle of practice. Imagine how that woulda went down
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so the same shaq that had problems with:
penny
kobe
wade
phil jackson
pat riley
jerry buss
was suddenly gonna back down to jordan, the same one who said his dream team could beat mike's dream team, that shaq?
he's even tryna be an alpha on a fukking studio show, but he's gonna play the background for mike?
as I said, wishful thinking.