Kobe's classic game 7 against the Suns

[Hey_zeus]

We justifying quitting in this thread?

 

[GoddamnyamanProf]

If ya mans

thread is about Kobe.

 

[Sccit]

We justifying quitting in this thread?

OF COURSE NOT

BUT LEBRON IS THE ONLY SUPERSTAR KNOWN FOR QUITTING

ACT LIKE U KNOW

 

[ISO]

WTF ARE U TALKIN ABOUT LMFAO PLEASE SHOW ME A TEAM LEBRON CARRIED ON THE SAME LEVEL AS SMUSH, KWAME, LUKE LAKERS

IN 2007, CAVS WOULDA BEEN A 6TH SEED IF THEY PLAYED OUT WEST

U KNOW WHO THEY WOULDA FACED IN THE FIRST ROUND???? SPURS WHO THEY GOT SWEPT BY THAT YEAR LMFAO!

THATS WHY THIS LEASTERN CONFERENCE CONSOLATION BULLSHIIT DOESNT GO FAR WITH PEOPLE WHO KNOW THEY SHIIT

BTW SUNS WERE A 2ND SEED IN 2006 - SPURS WERE A 3RD SEED IN 2007 .... CLEARLY ON THE SAME LEVEL.

AGAIN, HOW DOES LEBRON CARRY TEAMS BETTER IF HE GOT SWEPT WITH A SIMILAR CAST KOBE WON BACK-TO-BACK TITLES WITH?

HOLES ALL UP IN YOUR SHIIT FAM.

I'm supposed to believe that young LeBron couldn't carry that Lakers team to a barely .500 42 wins and a First Round exit? Is this what you Kobe stans find so remarkable and impressive?

Look at your dumb ass comparing seeding from '06 to '07, two different seasons.The '07 Spurs won 58 games, the '06 Suns won 54 games. The '07 Spurs ranked in the top 5 in both offensive and defensive rating. The '06 Suns ranked 2nd in offensive rating and a below average 16th in defensive rating. The Spurs were clearly the better and more pedigreed team. LeBron has a higher I.Q. than Kobe and can control tempos and games better than Kobe, he has a better blend of scoring and playmaking, and is a more impactful team defender. He can carry teams better than Kobe and can and has played all 48 minutes if needed in big games.

I ain't even gonna address that last dumb shyt you said

Stfu you the same clown ass nikka that stated prime LeBron and Shaq would not dominate

 

[Rakim Allah]

I dont. Sue me.

These Kobe fans are open hypocrites from what I noticed. I shat on Barkley for saying Kobe quit. He carries that unit of scrubs as far as they could go and they ran with the shytty he quit narrative. Bron does heavy lifting all the way to the finals ans suddenly he quit and worse yet, Kobe is saying he has to “figure it out” himself being a hypocrite.

Lots of yall breathing that shyt and cant stay on principles. Im too balanced for that bullshyt.

Actions speak louder than words. You never been balanced with Kobe not even during the Sohh days. You aren't a hater/Kobe stan but you are bias against Kobe. Own up to it Reb.

 

[Hoodoo Child]

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

Bruh, just make an argument and let's leave the emotions out of it. Where's the evidence that Kobe became a better leader and teammate? He wasn't a good leader and teammate during the Dwight Howard years. He wasn't a good leader or teammate during his last few injury riddled years with that young crew. He was never a particularly good teammate or leader.

His success post Shaq is my evidence. Kobe didn’t handle the Shaq situation any better than Shaq did. Maybe moreso given his youth and how he was driven to prove he wasn’t a product of Shaq’s dominance. Kobe could’ve let Shaq have his lil time and then assert himself but he was headstrong early which wasn’t going to go well with Shaq.

As to Dwight, him and Kobe didn’t work out at all. Kobe isn’t the easiest to work with and at that point in his career he wasn’t going to show respect to a nikka he thought was a clown. If it was about handing the franchise over to the future he looked out for the Lakers on that note. As for the injury riddled years, I don’t know how he was a bad teammate when he hardly played and became a non-threatening version of his former self.

think that Kobe was a great player. He just wasn't as good as his fans believe him to be. His career wasn't dumb luck, it was god given attributes/talent mixed with a lot of hard work and a lot of good fortune. As great as Kobe was he was even more fortunate. If he had began his career in Charlotte, it plays out completely different. There's no guarantee he gets 1 ring, let alone 5.

Fortune definitely played a part. But playing in Charlotte wouldn’t have stopped him from being a great player. Who knows? Maybe he would’ve been more like LeBron and took his career into his hands. The Hornets don’t have the cache that the Lakers/Dr Buss have to keep Kobe loyal.

Your question is irrelevant because my point isn't about him shooting. My point isn't about his lack of effort. If you say that he was following the "be a playmaker for others" game plan then fine, but that doesn't explain why he wasn't being a playmaker for others He wasn't doing ANYTHING, is my point. He had clearly quit.

My question is about his perceived lack of effort. Let me be clear, I didn’t at all fukk with what Kobe did in Game 7 and I’m not trying to excuse him for it. I just don’t think he quit, he was overmatched. Just like LeBron just was.

Love was a whopping 9-28 from 3 in the finals. Stop it man. I stand by what I said. That version of Odom would've been a better fit for this cavs team than Love. People think that th only way to play with Lebron is to be a spot up shooter but that's just ignorance of the game. An Odom type player wouldn't have to be a spot up shoote playing with Lebron. A guy who could actually create off of the dribble could easily play the draymond green role in "bron-ball" and take advantage of mini 3on2s and 2on1s that the attention Lebron draws. If the cavs had anybody that could create consistently off of the dribble besides Lebron they would've been a much better match for the warriors. Plus that version of Odom was his own match up problem.

They would’ve been an interesting team and matchup but I still don’t think that would’ve turned the tide in their favor.

Plus I saw Love doing more work in the paint than I had in years. His three wasn’t falling yeah, but he was still finding ways to score, and believe me I don’t think much of kevin love. For all of Odom’s versatility and ability to be a mismatch, he had his moments where he would do some dumb shyt. IMO, the Triangle’s structure, Phil’s guidance, and Kobe’s demanding nature brought the best out of him. I don’t know if the same happens with LeBron.

 

[Sccit]

I'm supposed to believe that young LeBron couldn't carry that Lakers team to a barely .500 42 wins and a First Round exit? Is this what you Kobe stans find so remarkable and impressive?

Look at your dumb ass comparing seeding from '06 to '07, two different seasons.The '07 Spurs won 58 games, the '06 Suns won 54 games. The '07 Spurs ranked in the top 5 in both offensive and defensive rating. The '06 Suns ranked 2nd in offensive rating and a below average 16th in defensive rating. The Spurs were clearly the better and more pedigreed team.

I ain't even gonna address that last dumb shyt you said

Stfu you the same clown ass nikka that stated prime LeBron and Shaq would not dominate

LOL I LIKE HOW U IGNORE THAT CAVS WOULDA BEEN SWEPT IN THE FIRST ROUND IF THEY PLAYED OUT WEST

FACE IT DUDE, THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO WAY LEBRON IS LEADING SMUSH KWAME AND LUKE TO 7 GAMES VS A WESTERN CONFERENCE CONTENDER

THOSE SUNS TEAMS WERE THE BLUEPRINT TO THE MODERN DAY GS WARRIORS, U OUT HERE ACTIN LIKE THEY WERENT THE TEAM THAT SHIFTED THE CULTURE AND WERE THE ORIGINATORS OF THE WAY ALL NBA TEAMS PLAY NOWADAYS

AND IF U THINK SHAQ AND LEBRON WOULD BE AN IDEAL PAIRING, THEN DONT EVEN REPLY TO THIS DUMMY.

 

[taco jay]

WTF ARE U TALKIN ABOUT LMFAO PLEASE SHOW ME A TEAM LEBRON CARRIED ON THE SAME LEVEL AS SMUSH, KWAME, LUKE LAKERS

IN 2007, CAVS WOULDA BEEN A 6TH SEED IF THEY PLAYED OUT WEST

U KNOW WHO THEY WOULDA FACED IN THE FIRST ROUND???? SPURS WHO THEY GOT SWEPT BY THAT YEAR LMFAO!

THATS WHY THIS LEASTERN CONFERENCE CONSOLATION BULLSHIIT DOESNT GO FAR WITH PEOPLE WHO KNOW THEY SHIIT

BTW SUNS WERE A 2ND SEED IN 2006 - SPURS WERE A 3RD SEED IN 2007 .... CLEARLY ON THE SAME LEVEL.

AGAIN, HOW DOES LEBRON CARRY TEAMS BETTER IF HE GOT SWEPT WITH A SIMILAR CAST KOBE WON BACK-TO-BACK TITLES WITH?

HOLES ALL UP IN YOUR SHIIT FAM.

you on some nut shyt if you think this cavs squad is even comparable with those lakers

 

[ISO]

LOL I LIKE HOW U IGNORE THAT CAVS WOULDA BEEN SWEPT IN THE FIRST ROUND IF THEY PLAYED OUT WEST

FACE IT DUDE, THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO WAY LEBRON IS LEADING SMUSH KWAME AND LUKE TO 7 GAMES VS A WESTERN CONFERENCE CONTENDER

THOSE SUNS TEAMS WERE THE BLUEPRINT TO THE MODERN DAY GS WARRIORS, U OUT HERE ACTIN LIKE THEY WERENT THE TEAM THAT SHIFTED THE CULTURE AND WERE THE ORIGINATORS OF THE WAY ALL NBA TEAMS PLAY NOWADAYS

AND IF U THINK SHAQ AND LEBRON WOULD BE AN IDEAL PAIRING, THEN DONT EVEN REPLY TO THIS DUMMY.

Again why are you ignoring Lamar Odom and Phil Jackson being on the sidelines?

You gonna act like the '07 Cavs wasn't also trash and Bron's second option Larry Hughes wasn't injured in the playoffs? You gonna act like Smush Parker wasn't better than old ass Eric Snow? As long as the gameplan is right, the role players step up, and LeBron play to the level he's capable of why wouldn't he be able to take a game or make it a series? The Cavs played elite team defense and were an elite rebounding squad and played at a slow half court tempo back then. They had a big front court and could pound the Suns inside, outrebound them, and slow down the pace just like the Lakers did.

This is the same strategy that led to the Cavs taking that 67 win '15 Warriors team to 6 games, but they went and added KD.

I don't give a fukk about this blueprint shyt. They weren't the Dubs, especially in '06 without STAT, they was a below average defensive squad and that right there makes them vulnerable. There's a reason the Lakers was able to go up 3-1, them nikkas wasn't bullet proof and had flaws that could be exploited they aren't the Dubs.

No GM in NBA history would turn down that pairing clown. LeBron+Shaq with some shooters wins many RINGS. There's no stopping that P&R.

LeBron CARRIES teams better than Kobe and has shown it time and time again throughout his career

 

[Sccit]

you on some nut shyt if you think this cavs squad is even comparable with those lakers

GEORGE HILL > DEREK FISHER
JORDAN CLARKSON > SHANNON BROWN
JR SMITH = OLD ARTEST
JEFF GREEN < LAMAR ODOM
JOSE CALDERON > SASHA VUJACIC
RODNEY HOOD > JORDAN FARMAR
LARRY NANCE > JOSH POWEL
KYLE KORVER > LUKE WALTON
KEVIN LOVE = PAU GASOL
TRISTAN THOMPSON = HOBBLED BYNUM

U WAS SAYIN?

 

[InstantKlassik]

Tim Thomas in game 6

 

[TheNig]

thread is about five time champion Kobe Bryant.

 

[Remote]

OF COURSE NOT

BUT LEBRON IS THE ONLY SUPERSTAR KNOWN FOR QUITTING

ACT LIKE U KNOW

You would actually say this stupid shyt in a thread that literally references Kobe quitting.

You have literally devolved into the worst poster on the coli.

 

[Ben.]

I'm supposed to believe that young LeBron couldn't carry that Lakers team to a barely .500 42 wins and a First Round exit? Is this what you Kobe stans find so remarkable and impressive?

Look at your dumb ass comparing seeding from '06 to '07, two different seasons.The '07 Spurs won 58 games, the '06 Suns won 54 games. The '07 Spurs ranked in the top 5 in both offensive and defensive rating. The '06 Suns ranked 2nd in offensive rating and a below average 16th in defensive rating. The Spurs were clearly the better and more pedigreed team. LeBron has a higher I.Q. than Kobe and can control tempos and games better than Kobe, he has a better blend of scoring and playmaking, and is a more impactful team defender. He can carry teams better than Kobe and can and has played all 48 minutes if needed in big games.

I ain't even gonna address that last dumb shyt you said

Stfu you the same clown ass nikka that stated prime LeBron and Shaq would not dominate

You shyttin on that clown but you arguing against the WOAT Kobe stain, man lives in his own reality

 

[Sccit]

Again why are you ignoring Lamar Odom and Phil Jackson being on the sidelines?

You gonna act like the '07 Cavs wasn't also trash and Bron's second option Larry Hughes wasn't injured in the playoffs? You gonna act like Smush Parker wasn't better than old ass Eric Snow? As long as the gameplan is right, the role players step up, and LeBron play to the level he's capable of why wouldn't he be able to take a game or make it a series? The Cavs played elite team defense and were an elite rebounding squad and played at a slow half court tempo back then. They had a big front court and could pound the Suns inside, outrebound them, and slow down the pace just like the Lakers did.

his is the same strategy that led to the Cavs taking that 67 win '15 Warriors team to 6 games, but they went and added KD.

I don't give a fukk about this blueprint shyt. They weren't the Dubs, especially in '06 without STAT, they was a below average defensive squad and that right there makes them vulnerable. There's a reason the Lakers was able to go up 3-1, them nikkas wasn't bullet proof and had flaws that could be exploited they aren't the Dubs.

No GM in NBA history would turn down that pairing clown. LeBron+Shaq with some shooters wins many RINGS. There's no stopping that P&R.

LeBron CARRIES teams better than Kobe and has shown it time and time again throughout his career

AGAIN, U IGNORE THAT CAVS WOULDA BEEN SWEPT IN THE FIRST ROUND PLAYIN OUT WEST LMAOOOO

LOOK, NO MATTER WHAT U SAY, 07 CAVS WAS NOT NEARLYY AS BAD AS 06 LAKERS.... THAT TEAM WAS COMPRISED OF ALL-STARS, ALL-DEFENSIVE PLAYERS, AND A SLEW OF SOLID VETS..... MEANWHILE ODOM WAS THE ONLY PASSABLE PLAYER BESIDES KOBE ON THE 06 LAKERS. PERIOD. CAVS LITERALLY HAD A TOP RANKED DEFENSE THAT YEAR - AND STILL, GOT SWEPT ONCE THEY FACED AN ACTUAL TEAM.

LEBRON CARRIED SUPERTEAMS TO 6 FINALS LOSSES .. FOH, AINT NOBODY WANNA HEAR THAT BS.