Kurupt - Space Boogie - Your thoughts on this album ?

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Don't know if you peeped the Against The Grain album but it was more of the same...Kurupt was spitting hot garbage over surprisingly good beats by Death Row producers...only this time he started calling himself Gotti Bin Ladin in almost every track:mjlol:

Yeah but its been a while since I listened to that one, the beats were pretty good I remember but the lyrics, yeah, shyt was embarassing. He also called himself Gotti Adolf Hitler :mjlol:
 

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Bottom line, Kurupt was never the same after the night he battled 2,000 MC's:mjcry:

I think differently breh.

Kurupt washed whole songs he was on after 'Dogg Food'.

'Kuruption' was freestyled by Kurupt for the most part so I can forgive him.
'2001' is an oxymoron as it was probably his peak as a solo artist, placement-wise, but bottom of the barrel lyrics-wise; his verse on 'Xxplosive' sounds like a freestyle.

'Tha Streetz Iz A Mutha..." is an undisputable classic (funny it came out the same day as '2001' but 'Tha Streetz..." was the one I bought, and I've never regretted it.)

Then 'Dillinger & Young Gotti' came about, which was unfocused, but still had a few good songs.

Then he went back to Tha Row Records and hit a second stride, Kurupt was pissed and came with some fire while there. 'Cali Untouchables Vol. 5' is a personal classic that I can listen all the way through without skipping.

'Against Tha Grain' was not the version that was meant to come out. Based on the released album and the unreleased songs and the mixtape songs, I can playlist a fire 'Kurupt - Tha Row (2nd Dynasty)' album.

I believe that after Tha Row, Kurupt has been really muted and has not been given the chances and respect that he deserves. I know I might catch heat for this but Suge gave him the position of Vice President of Tha Row and was the only one to give him the money Kurupt needed; Snoop, Daz or no other record label helped him out at the time he needed help.

TL:DR - Kurupt has never been the same after he left Death Row (Tha Row) the second time around.
 
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Since theres no thread on this album here I figured I'd make one. Been listening to the album more often recently so I wanted to get a lil discussion going. So what y'all think of this album ?
Personally I'm torn back & forth when it comes to this album. On the one hand the production here is often AMAZING, some of those beats are just: :ohlawd::whew::blessed:

Space Boogie :blessed::ohlawd:(Fredwreck was on his Dr. Dre shyt on this one)
On Da Grind :myman:
Cant Go Wrong :noah:
On Onsite :damn::whew:
The Hardest Motherfukkers:lawd:
Bring Back That G shyt:win:


The main problem here for me is Kurupt himself, his fall off compared to his death row days is undeniable here, often his lyrics on here are just complete bullshyt and dumbed down to an unbearable amount. If he wouldve actually brought his A Game lyrically on those tracks shyt wouldve been :damn::damn::banderas::ohlawd::blessed:. This way many of the songs still bang, but more because of the production and the guest features that outshine Kurupt on almost any single ocassion here. I mean just listen to "Hate On Me" and Kurupts whack ass retarded style fukk a bytch verse and you'll know exactly whats wrong with him here. Or that last track "fukk Tha World" where he spits some of the most confusing, senseless crap ever, like WTF is THIS:

nikka you want war? Yeah right, I'm mic sky like stiletto
Holocaust to high school, roscoe to Vasco
Impossible lives the hospitalized
Franchise strip nikkas is broke for ranches mansions avalanches
Alarms ring cause harm in court
Like platinum and gold
I've sold a whole, explosions hit explode implode
Popped out bodies dropped off on Rider's road
I've seen and foreseen the unseen
And able hardly able to separate the myths from fables
I'ma buy a Baltic while you purchase fireplaces
Poisonous supply and occupy in space

:what::what::what:

So what y'all think ?
 

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Kurupt washed whole songs he was on after 'Dogg Food'.

What are some songs, after his death row days, where he really blacked out comparable to Dogg Food ? Like songs that were released around the time Kuruption/Tha Streetz dropped
I know Kurupt got an extensive body of work, so I might not know some of those songs you are talkin bout. Would be really interesting
 

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Not a great album I prefer streetz is a motherfukker but still like to play on onsite know and then love the beat.
 

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IMO, Kurupt's decline started around June/July in 1996. Sure, he had his moments after that, but he was too inconsistent and was all over the place lyrically.

You go from this on Streetz:



To this:



I don't know what happened but there was a significant decline. Did he start rushing his lyrics?
 

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His best mixed project (and he's had a TON of bad ones). This was the first album where I kind of saw signs of Kurupt falling off, but the beautiful production masked it well. Would be glad to still have this level of Gotti nowadays though.

Fav Tracks:

-Space Boogie
-On Da Grind
-Can't Go Wrong
-On On Site
-Hardest Muthafukkas
-Lay It On Back (guilty pleasure)
-At It Again
 

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IMO, Kurupt's decline started around June/July in 1996. Sure, he had his moments after that, but he was too inconsistent and was all over the place lyrically.

You go from this on Streetz:



To this:



I don't know what happened but there was a significant decline. Did he start rushing his lyrics?


Maybe this could be the reason, i dont really know. He probably lost his hunger and started rushin shyt, not carin for lyrics anymore. Sad thing is, he clearly still has it in him. If dude would really focus on his music he could still deliver. I remember there were a whole lot of songs during the streetlights era, some of them actual leftovers of the album, which were amazing. Couple of them were also produced by Terrace Martin. Theres a great Kurupt thread on dubcc, it was a couple months ago I think that those tracks were posted, shyt was seriously sick. Kurupt still got it in him to spit & kill tracks, there are always songs here & there stashed between a whole lot of bullshyt songs, that actually prove his skill but he just uses it too rarely.


Edit: "Step Up" was his dopest lyrical performance on "Tha Streetz...", shyt sounded like a dogg food verse:


Terror starts, in the midst of your heart, starts
The storm, my vocals float like arks
In the mystic state of mind, when I create a rhyme
My microphone massacres every year the same time
With audio amputations, vocal thoughts of a loud talker
Up against the microphone night stalker
With a tendency of bashing MCs, like ten of me
As you can see I continue mashin' MCs
Kaboom, the room gets cleared as my views get clearer
Extra-terrestrial microphone terror
In effect, get infected
Tell me what the fucc you expected
These venemous injections
I leave whole sections, and sections full of injections
From these poisonous melodies and selections
I select the methods of slow anguish
I mangle shyt with my language
Tell me, have you ever seen one elope
With the microphone
In a scandal like abilities to make MCs explode
Baboom, alone in my own zone
So don't compare me to none
Not one's nearly
Severe, cause I severely, impare MCs
Near me, oppose and fear me, I got plots and theories
Sincerely, I could have the spot locked
nikkas get stoned for touching microphones
With no knowledge on how to rock

:ohhh:
 

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I like that album

I love the way that one song start off...

"A yo if rappin was a bytch you'll have no p*ssy
Maybe tongue kissin but still,no p*ssy"


Supafly and Damoni went off on that track.

The beat is crazy too.
 
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I think differently breh.

Kurupt washed whole songs he was on after 'Dogg Food'.

'Kuruption' was freestyled by Kurupt for the most part so I can forgive him.
'2001' is an oxymoron as it was probably his peak as a solo artist, placement-wise, but bottom of the barrel lyrics-wise; his verse on 'Xxplosive' sounds like a freestyle.

'Tha Streetz Iz A Mutha..." is an undisputable classic (funny it came out the same day as '2001' but 'Tha Streetz..." was the one I bought, and I've never regretted it.)

Then 'Dillinger & Young Gotti' came about, which was unfocused, but still had a few good songs.

Then he went back to Tha Row Records and hit a second stride, Kurupt was pissed and came with some fire while there. 'Cali Untouchables Vol. 5' is a personal classic that I can listen all the way through without skipping.

'Against Tha Grain' was not the version that was meant to come out. Based on the released album and the unreleased songs and the mixtape songs, I can playlist a fire 'Kurupt - Tha Row (2nd Dynasty)' album.

I believe that after Tha Row, Kurupt has been really muted and has not been given the chances and respect that he deserves. I know I might catch heat for this but Suge gave him the position of Vice President of Tha Row and was the only one to give him the money Kurupt needed; Snoop, Daz or no other record label helped him out at the time he needed help.

TL:DR - Kurupt has never been the same after he left Death Row (Tha Row) the second time around.

Lol breh I was referring to an old thread on Sohh, not the timing of when he said those lyrics.

Somebody made a troll thread talking about the night Kurupt battled 2000 MC's and people were holding him up by his shoulders while he was nearly dead but still freestyling and serving fools. Lots of peeps didn't know the OP was trolling and it was one of the funniest threads I ever read in my life.
 

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i remember buyin this at cd warehouse...and went straight to number 6 n played it to death...i dont even remember the rest of the album at all..quik let em hang..

n butch sounds better behind quiks production than nate dogg did..
 

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I guess I need to go back & listen to it, because I remember not fukking with it at all. Kurupt was sounding like he had nothing left.

This came out in 2001. Growing up, artists would fall off hard. In this era, artist are smarter in how they manage their career. The reason these guys have longevity, because they turn to ghostwriters. Kurupt isn't the type of guy to resort to that,.

It's always interesting reading these "insert a random album" thread, especially when its after a artist prime. You'll always see some people that fukked with it.

I'm probably in the minority but Streetz > 2001. Bought both on the same day. Remember being surprised enjoying Kurupt's project more. Kurupt was actually not really in his prime as a rapper on Streetz and ended up putting out a classic imo.
 

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What are some songs, after his death row days, where he really blacked out comparable to Dogg Food ? Like songs that were released around the time Kuruption/Tha Streetz dropped
I know Kurupt got an extensive body of work, so I might not know some of those songs you are talkin bout. Would be really interesting
Bruh, thats way too selective and if I have time, I will find songs from then.
But my post said:
Kurupt washed whole songs he was on after 'Dogg Food'.

Anyway, my music is not organised time-wise, but here goes;

Kurupt - Dogg Pound For Life [Ovadose]



Tha Dogg Pound Feat. 2Pac - Don't Stop [Daz Dillinger]
2:06


Nate Dogg Feat. Kurupt - First We Pray [Daz Dillinger]
1:44


Daz Dillinger Feat. Big Syke, Kadafi, Napoleon, Fatal Hussein, Kurupt - Jack Move [Daz Dillinger]
4:36 - END


Tha Gang (Daz Dillinger, Tray Deee, Snoop Doggy Dogg, Kurupt) - Hollywood Bank Robbery [Daz Dillinger]
(Daz with 2 dope verses AND the beat, Tray Deee and a prime Snoop Doggy Dogg):
3:11 to 3:31 (Kurupt's pure, uncut piff)



Dr. Dre Feat. Sharief, Drauma, Kurupt [Dr. Dre, Sam Sneed]
2:09
"From the door, maintain the heart pf the ghetto, wooden MC's call me Geppetto"



These are just from my Kurupt folder, I didn't even dip into other albums or Dogg Pound folders
 

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I guess I need to go back & listen to it, because I remember not fukking with it at all. Kurupt was sounding like he had nothing left.

This came out in 2001. Growing up, artists would fall off hard. In this era, artist are smarter in how they manage their career. The reason these guys have longevity, because they turn to ghostwriters. Kurupt isn't the type of guy to resort to that,.

It's always interesting reading these "insert a random album" thread, especially when its after a artist prime. You'll always see some people that fukked with it.

I'm probably in the minority but Streetz > 2001. Bought both on the same day. Remember being surprised enjoying Kurupt's project more. Kurupt was actually not really in his prime as a rapper on Streetz and ended up putting out a classic imo.
Streetz is overrated..

Kuruption >>>>>
 
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