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They were better from the moment Hayward went down injured - yes. If you would've made a poll asking who has the better roster immediately following that Celtics/Cavs game, the consensus would be the Cavs.
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There’s no way you believe this.

Didn’t you post that the Cavs have/had the worst defense in the nba?
 
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I’m one of whom?

One of those people who thought the Cavs were a better team than the Celtics?

You’ve got to be kidding.
So if I asked you immediately following Hayward's injury, who had the better roster between the Celtics/Cavs, your answer wouldn't have been the Cavs?

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I mean, it literally WAS a different team breh. :dwillhuh:

@Dwight Howard said Boston has enjoyed a superior record with an inferior roster...why is the Cavs roster that's been together for 1 game reflective of his argument that is based on a 53 game record?

Reminds me of a Kobestan last week that claimed Kobe was better than LeBron cause after Kobe quit on his team he came back and won two more rings, but he says Bron quit on his team last week and hasn't won 2 more rings since then so Kobe is better :dead:

Basic rules of time and space apparently do not apply when it comes to hating Lebron.
 

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It’s been a rough month or so for a Lebron Stans ... they needed this :ehh:
 

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So if I asked you immediately following Hayward's injury, who had the better roster between the Celtics/Cavs, your answer wouldn't have been the Cavs?

:usure:
The Celtics showed they were the better team midway thru November.

But you’re clearly deflecting here.
YOU never believed the Cavs were a better team.

And given your constant trolling of “Bron Stans” and “Bron Ball” I find it impossible to believe you would pick the Cavs over just about any Eastern contender.

To say that Kyrie and the Celtics were an inferior roster 2 months ago, let alone 2 weeks ago is a lie.
 

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Are nikkas saying the Celts roster was ever better than the cavs roster before or after the trade? No one thought they would have their record when Hayward got hurt..matter of fact everyone thought Kyrie would crash and burn without Bron. Cavs were always the east favorites before they stated playing like dog shyt on defense. Now all of a sudden their roster was inferior to the Celtics roster becasue of record? Posters on this site full of shyt. No one in their right mind said celts had a better roster than the cavs before the first game was played this season. I've been saying Celts are over achieving with their roster talent compared to other teams.
 
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The Celtics showed they were the better team midway thru November.
This is why you need to follow the conversation if you're gonna jump in. The Cavs had the better roster (which is what this argument is about), in terms of talent/ability, the moment Hayward went down. The Celtics have been winning this season because of their coaching, system, and effort/hustle. They don't have a whole lot of talent/ability, which is half the reason why they have a mediocre offense (21st in the league, and it's even worse when Kyrie isn't playing).

Yes, the Celtics proved to be the better team, but it wasn't due to the talent on their roster. You should be familiar with this shyt since you're a Spurs fan.
And given your constant trolling of “Bron Stans” and “Bron Ball” I find it impossible to believe you would pick the Cavs over just about any Eastern contender.
I most definitely wouldn't pick them, not necessarily because of their roster, but because of the lack of coaching, system, and effort/hustle.
 

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This is why you need to follow the conversation if you're gonna jump in. The Cavs had the better roster (which is what this argument is about), in terms of talent/ability, the moment Hayward went down. The Celtics have been winning this season because of their coaching, system, and effort/hustle. They don't have a whole lot of talent/ability, which is half the reason why they have a mediocre offense (21st in the league, and it's even worse when Kyrie isn't playing).

Yes, the Celtics proved to be the better team, but it wasn't due to the talent on their roster. You should be familiar with this shyt since you're a Spurs fan.

I most definitely wouldn't pick them, not necessarily because of their roster, but because of the lack of coaching, system, and effort/hustle.
The Cav's shortcomings (certainly defensively) were not merely a coaching/motivation issue.
But we can just disagree on that if that's the argument you want to make.
 
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The Cav's shortcomings (certainly defensively) were not merely a coaching/motivation issue.
But we can just disagree on that if that's the argument you want to make.
Except they were/are.

What the hell do you think defense is largely comprised of? Effort/hustle and game-planning/scheme. Why do you think folks were saying Kyrie has been a lot better on defense this season, as opposed to previous seasons?

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Except they were/are.

What the hell do you think defense is largely comprised of? Effort/hustle and game-planning/scheme. Why do you think folks were saying Kyrie has been a lot better on defense this season, as opposed to previous seasons?

:jbhmm:
If the players the Cavs traded away show improved defensive metrics the rest of the season, let me know.

Kyrie's defense has slowed down recently after being off to a great start.
But let me know about that 1st part once the season is over. I'm curious, though not optimistic that you would ever admit to being wrong about anything. Ever.
 
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If the players the Cavs traded away show improved defensive metrics the rest of the season, let me know..
Crowder and Wade are likely to see an improvement in "defensive metrics" because they play on defensive-orientated teams.
But let me know about that 1st part once the season is over.
And what would that prove exactly? I don't think you realize how this shyt works.
I'm curious, though not optimistic that you would ever admit to being wrong about anything. Ever.
What is there to be "wrong" about? You're acting like I'm making a prediction or something, I'm simply relaying common knowledge. There's nothing to be right/wrong about. I have no problem with admitting to being wrong, the problem is, a lot of folks don't seem to understand that I'm reasonable, and my takes are grounded in reality - I don't say dumb shyt that has a high probability of backfiring.
 
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