ManBearPig
half man half bearpig
Cavs record without LBJ: 3-12
Cavs without Kyrie: 18-8
just play your role and shut up Ky
Cavs without Kyrie: 18-8
just play your role and shut up Ky
Kyrie wants to be TRADED
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Tyron Lue says the offense is mostly built around Lebron so when he's out its hard, but whose fault is that? Guys can't be prepared to win if the coach doesnt bother to prepare a winning gameplan without Lebron in it.Cavs record without LBJ: 3-12
Cavs without Kyrie: 18-8
just play your role and shut up Ky
ManBearPig
half man half bearpig
those are last years and this years records.
Ky a great player but isn't someone that can lead you to the Finals... or even playoffs yet.
Stopped right here due to this being such a stupid ass question.
2-4 in the Finals? Including the worst loss in finals history? On his way to another loss? Stats and game diminishing before your eyes? Typical Lebron fan response. Ignore the obvious and run to stats.
Lebron doesn't have the skill set to be a wing player so he kills everyone else's talent. If he had the ability to be a wing his game wouldn't be deteriorating at such speed.
ManBearPig
half man half bearpig
2 championships is the same amount of championships guys like Hakeem and Zeke got. I don't see nobody calling them losers
You might as well should say LeBron should lose in the earlier round on purpose so his Finals's record would look better
Nobody with a brain thought the Cavs with Ky and Love out would be about to take out the Warriors nor the Cavs had a chance the Spurs.
2 championships is the same amount of championships guys like Hakeem and Zeke got. I don't see nobody calling them losers
You might as well should say LeBron should lose in the earlier round on purpose so his Finals's record would look better
Nobody with a brain thought the Cavs with Ky and Love out would be about to take out the Warriors nor the Cavs had a chance the Spurs.
Those two old heads are great players. But neither of them came into the league with none of the hype and expectations of LeBron.
We didn't create this "LeBron is the GOAT" shyt. Yall did. If he gone be the GOAT then he should be winning championships like the GOAT.
It's funny how the shyt is changing up. He went from you nikkas saying he can win 4 or 5 championships on any team to he can make any team a contender... What's it gone be next year bro? He can take any team to the playoffs?
ManBearPig
half man half bearpig
teams win championships, not players.
Put MJ on that Cavs rosters and he's wouldn't win either with Ky and Love out of the rotation. I'm not even bringing up David Blatt coaching that team instead of Phil Jackson
Edit: Hakeem had some hype behind him since he was drafted ahead of MJ
Man... I don't wanna hear that shyt. If he's 6-0 instead of 2-4, you don't make this post. Instead it's, "he's the best thing since sliced Jordan" .
And we really don't know how good of a coach Blatt is or isn't. The best player on the team didn't buy in from jump.
And I never said Dream didn't have hype. I said that he didn't have the hype or expectations of LeBron. If we're being honest, no one has.
ManBearPig
half man half bearpig
LBJ career averages are 27.1/6.9/7.1 on 49% shooting. Not bad for some super hyped player u keep bringing up. LeBron's first 7 years had more to do with the Cav's organization to bring in quality players more so than LeBron failing to live up to expectations. Mo Williams was the 2nd option for 2 of those years for crying out out... MO fukking Williams.
2007- Spurs were stacked and experienced from head to toe
2011- LBJ underperform... i'll give the haters that
2012- chip
2013- chip
2014- Spurs played godly and Wade and Bosh both sucked
2015- Ky and Love were injured against a team that won 67 games.
how can yall not see this?
Goatpoacher
Superstar
LBJ career averages are 27.1/6.9/7.1 on 49% shooting. Not bad for some super hyped player u keep bringing up. LeBron's first 7 years had more to do with the Cav's organization to bring in quality players more so than LeBron failing to live up to expectations. Mo Williams was the 2nd option for 2 of those years for crying out out... MO fukking Williams.
2007- Spurs were stacked and experienced from head to toe
2011- LBJ underperform... i'll give the haters that
2012- chip
2013- chip
2014- Spurs played godly and Wade and Bosh both sucked
2015- Ky and Love were injured against a team that won 67 games.
how can yall not see this?
While I generally agree, Kyrie and Love were not going to save Lebron in 2015. Also, 2014 was the end of the iso-ball era. Lebron's problem right now is that he wants to play an outdated style of offense, especially in the 4th quarter, when the Spurs and Warriors have mastered a ball movement offense that focuses on the 3 pointer. He is behind the times right now and his regression with his jump shot is not helping.
The sad thing is, the Cavs have the personnel to have a much better offense but their stars fukk it up.
pez
All Star
I'd swap Kyrie for Melo. Cavs are in a win-now mode.
how can yall not see this?
Becuz he the best player in the world. Should I not expect more?
The way I look at it is like this...
Don't come at me with that bullshyt about how great he is and how he defies all odds and then cop the fukk outta some pleas when shyt don't go his way.
The story of this nikka's career is about what he didn't have to play with when it mattered most. I hate how that shyt applies to him and only him.
And I didn't really trip on him in 2014. He played his heart out and had no one to back him. The problem I had was in 2015 when they were up 2-1 and how people were saying the Warriors were overrated and would lose the series. Dude got put on God status before the season was over. So when they ended up losing and people was talking this, "he tired" shyt, I got mad. How they put this man on God status and then when his team fails, he got tired and everybody else was ass? fukk that shyt. I don't want to hear that shyt. He shoulda played harder. He shouldn't have gotten tired. He shoulda done more. If yall can't be reasonable when it's supposed to matter, then I refuse to give in to reason when the chips don't fall how yall want them.
Now one thing I will say is that there were also so people with common sense who knew that he would eventually tire out if no one else stepped up and I could talk to those folks like everything was cool. But don't be one of them nikkas that pop shyt and then go and hide when shyt get too real. Too much of that with LeBron fans on here.
ManBearPig
half man half bearpig
The Spurs won because they were hitting in all cylinders and Wade and Bosh played like shyt. The Heat as a team looked tired out there.
Goatpoacher
Superstar
Spurs are even better this year. Warriors look even better than the Spurs. Why do you think that is?
Lebron is a supremely talented player but he's been absurdly stubborn. Hero ball and ball stopping doesn't work in the NBA anymore.