Landlord Dies After being Pushed Down Stairs

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When you file for an eviction, it becomes a public record and attorneys who represent tenants will reach out to the person being evicted (in the same way that you get contacted by auto accident attorneys). They will talk to the tenants and if they become aware of any wrongdoing by the landlord, they will seek payment/fines during the eviction process and get paid on a contingency basis. The most common way this happens is thru security deposits. Most ppl don't know this (I learned the hard way) but when you take a security deposit (at least here in Chicago/Cook County) you're supposed to put that money in a separate, interest bearing bank account. You're supposed to also pay that interest to the tenant for as long as they're in your unit. Failure to do so = a fine of 3 times the security deposit. If the rent on the unit is $1,200 - that is $3,600 right there that the landlord has to pay out. The attorney will take 40% and all they did was show up to one court date and file a motion. A cpl hours work tops.

There are also many public interest attorneys/legal aid etc options for tenants.

Those lawyers who help people with landlords aren't looking to fight a murder charge.

:mjlol:

Entirely different scenarios than what you are suggesting.
 

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200 a month rent in NYC :dwillhuh: I gotta pay 150 more then that to live with my parents :mjlol:


200 dollar rent + food stamps I'd be living quite comfortably :wow:


This idiot don't know how good he had it paying 200 a month to live in NYC :snoop:
And to think you are a bird doing that :snoop:
 

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Who's more wrong tho? The old man who rented a room to this man for the low, then slashed rent by 50 percent so dude could afford it? Or the dude who refused to pay dirt cheap rent and physically attacked the old man because he had to go, leading to the old guys death.

Who looks worse in this scenario?
I really wonder why people always try to be contrarians on this site. The boy is in the wrong. That’s all there is to this.
 

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you definitely can be told who can move in with you, plenty of leases have tenancy clauses that state guests who stay over more than a certain # nights in a 30 day period are considered tenants, they will need to be placed on the lease and subject to any rent increases.

but this doesn't even matter given the tenant was renting a room in a personal home which comes with more legal restrictions. you cannot move multiple people into a room when you've contractually obligated yourself to being the sole occupant.
Big facts. When I went to visit my girlfriend last year she had to submit the time I’d be there to her apartment’s management office so they’d know that I wasn’t exceeding whatever the threshold is for being considered a tenant. I even had to give them the license plate and car information on my rental lmao.
 

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:francis: At the same time the human anatomy can survive crazy shyt. Vesna Vulovic survived an exploding plane and a 6 mile drop to the ground.

I remember hearing in the news some boy scout tripped on a hike just on the regular trail and didn't get his hands down for some reason, hit a rock, died.

Guy who is friends with some people I know tripped and fell on the sidewalk and got paralyzed.

On the other hand, Joe Simpson smashed his leg at 20,000 feet on the top of a mountain that no one had ever successfully climbed before, then on basically an impossible descent got his rope cut by his hiking partner and fell 100 feet straight down into an crevasse, then managed to climb out of the crevasse alone with one leg being completely unusable, finish the descent, and hike 15 miles or something out dragging himself on that one leg.
 
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He died off of that? I've seen wrestlers take worse bumps
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The news reports does give a real account of what happened.

"On Sunday afternoon, Garces and his brother used a drill to force open the door and enter the victim’s house without permission to retrieve his belongings, according to the landlord’s family.

Garces owed $200 for his second month’s rent for his room in the home but was refusing to pay up, according to the landlord’ family."

This dude was not renting the whole unit, he was renting a room in the house that the old man STILL lived in. He was kicked out for not paying rent and BROKE IN with a power drill.

I dont know why yall keep arguing like the old man was just some grimy landlord harassing his tenants, the old man was also a resident of that address.


stop.
stop.
stop.
stop.


the video showed the encounter.
in typical counter engagements.
if you were thwarted from an attempt.
then regather and attempt another attempt.
you are now an aggressor.
whom is not defending yourself.

a barrier was put between the landlord and the tenant forcibly.
we see this on film.
that force closing of an entry way.
shows the sign of an encounter.
that could be shown as self defense.
or an act of forcible aggression.
plus shows a complete violation of civil good faith from the landlord.
plus that good faith lack of action lead to a counter.
as the landlord is on film visibly in a state of emotion.
not as a cognitive good fsith based landowner, and landlord.
his filmed encounter is on film and shows this.
his Initial aggression on film.
when the tenant forcibly shuts the entryway.
is seen and shows him lacking civility and good faith.
as a businessman/landlord/landowner.
that closed out that first engagement.

after that engagement.
the landlord now created a new encounter.
when the barrier was shut.
he then tried to forcibly enter the area and entryway of the past encounter as an aggressor.


the landlord never excercised his rights..
then turned into a vigilante and aggressor after a civil dispute.
he was countered in one engagement..
to close out another engagement,...
he is not the police.
he can not act as an aggressor. After a encounter has taken place.
unless put under duress. Where forced by an aggressor to defend himself in an additional encounter.

in this situation. The landlord pursued after the civil dispute..plus after became an aggressor and tried forcible entry.
when all the landlord should have done was follow asset forfeiture counter measures legally.
he never should have engaged the tenant.
especially in a winter seasonal time period.

as there are national laws against eviction.
that are made to elaborate and eliminate this type of dispute.
from being and occurring in the future of real estate, and housing socially and economically.



art barr
 
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From what I read the tenant agreed to move in by himself. The landlord was mad because come to find out, the guy moved his family in with a baby. The landlord live in the basement and heard the baby crying all night and found out they where leaving the baby alone. Then the tenant had the nerve to not pay the reduced rent. That tenant was piece of shyt. Sad the landlord died. This isn’t a case of a landlord getting over, it’s a guy just trying to make a living.


no,...
this was a slumlord.
you never engage the tenant past correspondence and certain administrative fail safes in place.

you are talking about deflection, away from the incident.
the incident is on film.
that is what happened to lead to the landlord's death.
when the landlord made himself liable.
by not following proper administrative and civil procedure.

he ran up on camera.
in an emo out of control state.
to perform a forcible eviction.
which are against the law, period.
was thwarted. Then proceeded to attempt another forcible entry repeatedly.
after a failed attempt.
then was countered into a death down a flight of stairs via manslaughter.
the tenant should have just shut the door and called the police.
the landlord should never have been there at all.
this was a dispute handled in civil court.
Now because the landlord and the tenant do not know and lack good faith.
as it applies, to public engagement.
They both formed who has to suffer.

the landlord precipitated the situation.
when, the landlord should never have even been there.
plus the landlord precipitated the situation.

art barr


you nikkaz ain't been through nuffin.
Plus you do not have any wherewithal to the law.

you can only do what a country allows you to do.

In this country the landlord and tenant are not allowed..to behave publically and lack civility and good faith.. in the manner in which, they are both filmed.
 
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Thats one of the craziest videos ive ever seen

Life drops on you quick
 
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