Large US City Black Populations ('21 ACS estimates)

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I don't conflate what LA was as a destination and hub in the 40s-80s to what it is today. 1) LA is LA, it's attractive beyond the black population, i don't see, in my circle, people moving to LA for the black community. they are there for the industry, weather or family. 2) like most of CA when it comes to our black population, it's concentrated in lower economic tiers, that alone won't let me call any of this a mecca as you don't see black people thriving or exerting power 3) the metros get real white and mexican when you expand past LA, and I'm lumping "suburbs" like Compton, Long Beach and Inglewood into LA, they should be LA if not for political games being played with the map back in the day

Having lived in DC, Philly, NY, and Chicago and having spent a lot of time in ATL, then moved back to Cali, Cali doesn't have a Black Mecca. It has a handful of cities where you can feel comfortable as a black person, but the true community, power, diversity, etc that LA and Oakland once had has all but disappeared over the last 25 years. You got places like ATL, NY, DC, Charlotte/NC, Houston where black folk are thriving....then you got Cali, where the black folk making it get lost in and dispersed into a sea of "others" while the core clusters are mainly underserved, poor, and struggling

I'm gonna piggyback this. Having grown up in Philly (and frequenting EVERY major city on the east coast), then visiting Cali...I was disappointed in the cultural presence of black folks, out there. To be fair, I was only in S.D. and LA, but culturally, I felt somewhat mislead....hoodwinked...:mjpls:

LA was beautiful (culturally as a whole). I gotta get back. S.D. beautiful (weather A1), but I was disappointed at the amount of black ppl, I saw out there. I expected somethin different. I know that Gaslamp District, was cac central (all the clubs cacc'd out, but for a few). The west coast for me, was moreso a VIBE, than anything else. I appreciated its contrast to the east coast, the ambiance, culture, etc. BUT I wasn't impressed, w/ black culture. YOU CAN RECOGNIZE THIS IMMEDIATELY, IF YOU'RE FROM ELSEWHERE (unexplainable, but easily felt). I wouldn't move out there, cuz I need to feel THAT (whatever "that" is). :manny:

I think folks, from out west, who never been to NYC, NJ, Philly, Bmore, etc...would be surprised, to see how ENTRENCHED, black culture is, in the northeast.

That "black & brown" shyt is 100% facts, out there. And I'm not even including, ATL, DC, etc. In ATL, I was surprised at the amount of white ppl I saw...but nonetheless, it felt like blacks RUN the city (festivities, events, cuisine, culture, etc). Little shyt I peeped...which isn't prevalent everywhere. White folks or OTHERS, having to acquiesce to US (black culture). White ppl eating in soul food restaurants, multiple black media outlets, cacs having to frequent black affairs, etc. This is not the norm EVERYWHERE. You nkkas gotta acquiesce to cacs, or Hectors culture (for better or worse).

I understand what another poster meant, when he compares Pittsburgh and VA Beach. Although there's black folks in PGH (heavy), that city seems heavily segregated. Outside the trenches, you barely feel a cultural presence. Whereas a VA Beach (probably smaller), our presence is FELT. CHI...I immediately felt black culture too (so incomparable to LA). :mjgrin:

I guess it's all subjective (at the end of the day), then again...I wanna say it isn't.
 
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There‘s only one Mekkah the same way there is only one Madina. It is Harlem, New York bruva.
no, nvm the fact NY is losing its ADOS pop and is slowly becoming a hub for nonados groups- Afro latinos, caribbeans, africans
plus the gentrification

yall aint the mecca
Any city that have a larger Mexican population can't be a Black Mecca breh. :mjlol:
This can apply to all the Big popular metro places except Atlanta.

NY, LA, Dallas all have more white/mexican populations.

that isnt exlcusive to LA,
 

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no, nvm the fact NY is losing its ADOS pop and is slowly becoming a hub for nonados groups- Afro latinos, caribbeans, africans
plus the gentrification

yall aint the mecca

This can apply to all the Big popular metro places except Atlanta.

NY, LA, Dallas all have more white/mexican populations.

that isnt exlcusive to LA,
Los Angeles stay on these nikkas mind
 

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I'm gonna piggyback this. Having grown up in Philly (and frequenting EVERY major city on the east coast), then visiting Cali...I was disappointed in the cultural presence of black folks, out there. To be fair, I was only in S.D. and LA, but culturally, I felt somewhat mislead....hoodwinked...:mjpls:

LA was beautiful (culturally as a whole). I gotta get back. S.D. beautiful (weather A1), but I was disappointed at the amount of black ppl, I saw out there. I expected somethin different. I know that Gaslamp District, was cac central (all the clubs cacc'd out, but for a few). The west coast for me, was moreso a VIBE, than anything else. I appreciated its contrast to the east coast, the ambiance, culture, etc. BUT I wasn't impressed, w/ black culture. YOU CAN RECOGNIZE THIS IMMEDIATELY, IF YOU'RE FROM ELSEWHERE (unexplainable, but easily felt). I wouldn't move out there, cuz I need to feel THAT (whatever "that" is). :manny:

I think folks, from out west, who never been to NYC, NJ, Philly, Bmore, etc...would be surprised, to see how ENTRENCHED, black culture is, in the northeast.

That "black & brown" shyt is 100% facts, out there. And I'm not even including, ATL, DC, etc. In ATL, I was surprised at the amount of white ppl I saw...but nonetheless, it felt like blacks RUN the city (festivities, events, cuisine, culture, etc). Little shyt I peeped...which isn't prevalent everywhere. White folks or OTHERS, having to acquiesce to US (black culture). White ppl eating in soul food restaurants, multiple black media outlets, cacs having to frequent black affairs, etc. This is not the norm EVERYWHERE. You nkkas gotta acquiesce to cacs, or Hectors culture (for better or worse).

I understand what another poster meant, when he compares Pittsburgh and VA Beach. Although there's black folks in PGH (heavy), that city seems heavily segregated. Outside the trenches, you barely feel a cultural presence. Whereas a VA Beach (probably smaller), our presence is FELT. CHI...I immediately felt black culture too (so incomparable to LA). :mjgrin:

I guess it's all subjective (at the end of the day), then again...I wanna say it isn't.

I'll never understand why people expect a larger black presence out west----->this nation was "founded" and developed from the east, not the other way around. Our introduction to this stolen land was from the east, not the other way around...

Considering the black culture in California was a few hundred years behind start and development than eastern locales, the sustainability of the black culture that is there is respectable...

People expecting The West to be as deeply entrenched in blackness are silly, historically it isn't possible...
 

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LA is LA, it's attractive beyond the black population, i don't see, in my circle, people moving to LA for the black community. they are there for the industry, weather or family. 2) like most of CA when it comes to our black population, it's concentrated in lower economic tiers, that alone won't let me call any of this a mecca as you don't see black people thriving or exerting power
Having lived in DC, Philly, NY, and Chicago and having spent a lot of time in ATL, then moved back to Cali, Cali doesn't have a Black Mecca. It has a handful of cities where you can feel comfortable as a black person, but the true community, power

And yet everything you said about LA can apply to almost ALL of those cities exlcuding DC. NY is NY, Philly is Philly and Chicago is chi. those are global cities with already an attraction beyond the black community.

you think those cities are attractive solely because of the black community? :mjlol:

Also those cities like LA also have lower economic tiers, You need to post a example of them nikkas in Philly, NY and Chicago "exerting power" because them nikkas are in the same boat of lower economic tier communities.


On top of the fact that them nikkas in those cities and the greater are of their regions are leaving their cities/regions


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so for all that you just type they in those cities dont feel it because they are leaving these areas

atleast with La/ and Cali black americans in general they got the reparations thing passed. so that counts for "exerting power"
and if you want thriving blacks there has been excessive amounts of list posted on fluent black communties in California quite a few




DC is the exception of cities you mentioned and even with that you have this facing them showing thats changing



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DC is losing its black population


Atlanta(you mentioned) is the anomaly, if you would have only mentioned that, i would have not quoted you.
 
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he west coast for me, was moreso a VIBE, than anything else. I appreciated its contrast to the east coast, the ambiance, culture, etc. BUT I wasn't impressed, w/ black culture. YOU CAN RECOGNIZE THIS IMMEDIATELY, IF YOU'RE FROM ELSEWHERE (unexplainable, but easily felt). I wouldn't move out there, cuz I need to feel THAT (whatever "that" is). :manny:

I think folks, from out west, who never been to NYC, NJ, Philly, Bmore, etc...would be surprised, to see how ENTRENCHED, black culture is, in the northeast
almost all of the street culture of LA is Black american culture and black american influenced

the influence of black america is big that you got whole other groups copying nikkas hence chicano culture from mexicans and asian Bloods and crips.

All those cities in the bold are also entrenched in multiple different cultures not just black. Espescially NYC where theres people from all corners of the world there just like LA. So similarly its anchored in all sorts of cultures

Bmore is the exception and to be real, no one really cares or GAF about Bmore.
nor is it a premier destination city to visit or what people deem as a "black mecca" BMore is known for the The Wire and for where a bunch of Poor nikkas are:mjlol:


and most of you Northeast nikkas is leaving that region in high numbers

so that entrenched culture is gonna dissipate :russell:
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And yet everything you said about LA can apply to almost ALL of those cities exlcuding DC. NY is NY, Philly is Philly and Chicago is chi. those are global cities with already an attraction beyond the black community.

you think those cities are attractive solely because of the black community? :mjlol:

Also those cities like LA also have lower economic tiers, You need to post a example of them nikkas in Philly, NY and Chicago "exerting power" because them nikkas are in the same boat of lower economic tier communities.


On top of the fact that them nikkas in those cities and the greater are of their regions are leaving their cities/regions




so for all that you just type they in those cities dont feel it because they are leaving these areas

atleast with La/ and Cali black americans in general they got the reparations thing passed. so that counts for "exerting power"
and if you want thriving blacks there has been excessive amounts of list posted on fluent black communties in California quite a few




DC is the exception of cities you mentioned and even with that you have this facing them showing thats changing





DC is losing its black population


Atlanta(you mentioned) is the anomaly, if you would have only mentioned that, i would have not quoted you. But you mentioning them other shyts? nah
one of the reasons Black people move to those cities is for the black community, no where did I say the world in general finds them attractive for their black population or it's the only reason a black person moves there. :what:

And DC proper is losing its black population to its immediate suburbs, the entire reason I said you need to look at the entire metro. There is a deep black community surrounding DC throughout most of MD, even MoCo which is considered white is 20% black, more than LA county @ 8.7% (BTW, it's the 7th blackest county in CA, the top 4 are all northern california Solano, Alameda, Sacramento and Contra Costa...yet no one calls these areas a Mecca :dead:), and there is a decent sized black community in NOVA especially down the eastern side from Alexandria on down.

California's black population has always been damn near fully concentrated in a handful of cities and immediately white, asian or mexican once you leave those cities. When we move out of our core cities (LA, Oakland, Compton), we scatter much further and lose population density much faster than black folk who move from ATL, Chi, Miami, and DC to their neighboring BLACK suburbs.

I haven't followed the reparations thing in CA to know who really put that over, just because it benefits blacks doesn't mean it was brokered and pushed thru by black people...there are enough "woke" white guilt, virtue signaling cacs in CA govt to make those moves and clearly Newsom has been positioning himself for a presidential run. That buys him favor in the south

And no shyt everywhere haw lower economoic tiers, but not everywhere has a community of middle-upper middle class blacks. You trying to talk to me like i havent LIVED in these places. The idea of who a black person is out here in Oakland is completely different than in DC. I'm treated very different in my day to day life out here where black people are the monolithically seen as lower class as opposed to DC where there is more economic stratification and decent sized black professional class. I wasn't treated like shyt off jump out there and didn't face as many microaggressions. This aint some whining about white acceptance, it's about quality of life. The passive aggressive ways white people interact with you on average out here becomes a drag.


Yall really in here caping for LA hard, you aint even from there, with no experience to back it up other than what it once was (which i'm not denying). But in 2022, a black person looking for a thriving black community or region isn't saying "yea, LA is a black mecca" at most they recognize there are enough black people there for them to not feel out of place but they aren't looking to it as a place where we'll be the plurality and show up everywhere
 
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Los Angeles stay on these nikkas mind
stupid nikkas really gon sit here and say

"LA cant be black mecca because it has more mexicans and nonblacks"

dumb nikka, practically everyone of these cities including the holes some of these bums live in them dusty ass rust belt cities of Chicago, NY and Philly are more white/hispanic than Black to:heh:

if people dont consider LA a "black mecca" fine, i agree. but that needs to be said for every city. espescially with the rust belt cities losing their ADOS populations.

theres a reason why Atlanta has been given that title of "black mecca" Atlanta still to this day is the only major city that has had a huge black present city in the past like DC, LA, Philly, etc but unlike them

they still is primarily culturally black, good population(47%) and is actually gaining black migrants/people.


^^^ ATlanta is the only "black mecca" all these other cities nikkas is mentioning in this thread either are not important(Jackson, Bmore), or losing nikkas(Northeast and midwest),
 

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These threads are a waste of time.

All nikkas do in these threads is have a shouting/bragging match about “who got the most Black ppl” the shyt is stupid in a way.

Nikkas fighting and sounding all aggressive over percentages and numbers 🤣 as long as you comfortable, happy, and take pride in where you live at that's all that really matters.
 

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Richmond to VA Beach combined would make us top 5 no matter what way slice it.

Combine the entire DMV and the only true black Meccas would be here and the gulf coast, which are the only two real black meccas anyway when you erase the cac borders.

And for real for real the real black Mecca is everything from DC to Texas.

One big ass piece of land, The Southeast.
 

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no, nvm the fact NY is losing its ADOS pop and is slowly becoming a hub for nonados groups- Afro latinos, caribbeans, africans
plus the gentrification

yall aint the mecca

This can apply to all the Big popular metro places except Atlanta.

NY, LA, Dallas
all have more white/mexican populations.

that isnt exlcusive to LA,

and they're not Black Meccas
 

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Brooklyn keeps on taking it.
one of the reasons Black people move to those cities is for the black community, no where did I say the world in general finds them attractive for their black population or it's the only reason a black person moves there. :what:

And DC proper is losing its black population to its immediate suburbs, the entire reason I said you need to look at the entire metro. There is a deep black community surrounding DC throughout most of MD, even MoCo which is considered white is 20% black, more than LA county @ 8.7% (BTW, it's the 7th blackest county in CA, the top 4 are all northern california Solano, Alameda, Sacramento and Contra Costa...yet no one calls these areas a Mecca :dead:), and there is a decent sized black community in NOVA especially down the eastern side from Alexandria on down.

California's black population has always been damn near fully concentrated in a handful of cities and immediately white, asian or mexican once you leave those cities. When we move out of our core cities (LA, Oakland, Compton), we scatter much further and lose population density much faster than black folk who move from ATL, Chi, Miami, and DC to their neighboring BLACK suburbs.

I haven't followed the reparations thing in CA to know who really put that over, just because it benefits blacks doesn't mean it was brokered and pushed thru by black people...there are enough "woke" white guilt, virtue signaling cacs in CA govt to make those moves and clearly Newsom has been positioning himself for a presidential run. That buys him favor in the south

And no shyt everywhere haw lower economoic tiers, but not everywhere has a community of middle-upper middle class blacks. You trying to talk to me like i havent LIVED in these places. The idea of who a black person is out here in Oakland is completely different than in DC. I'm treated very different in my day to day life out here where black people are the monolithically seen as lower class as opposed to DC where there is more economic stratification and decent sized black professional class. I wasn't treated like shyt off jump out there and didn't face as many microaggressions. This aint some whining about white acceptance, it's about quality of life. The passive aggressive ways white people interact with you on average out here becomes a drag.


Yall really in here caping for LA hard, you aint even from there, with no experience to back it up other than what it once was (which i'm not denying). But in 2022, a black person looking for a thriving black community or region isn't saying "yea, LA is a black mecca" at most they recognize there are enough black people there for them to not feel out of place but they aren't looking to it as a place where we'll be the plurality and show up everywhere
No need to write paragraphs to the Cadillac poster. He is the poster child or retard.

Any form of retardation or mental illness is inside of him

And you are right the Cadillac poster is from Arizona. He doesn’t live there nor is from there

A professional homosexual
 

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Brooklyn keeps on taking it.
Richmond to VA Beach combined would make us top 5 no matter what way slice it.

Combine the entire DMV and the only true black Meccas would be here and the gulf coast, which are the only two real black meccas anyway when you erase the cac borders.

And for real for real the real black Mecca is everything from DC to Texas.

One big ass piece of land, The Southeast.
Wrong try again
 

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These threads are a waste of time.

All nikkas do in these threads is have a shouting/bragging match about “who got the most Black ppl” the shyt is stupid in a way.

Nikkas fighting and sounding all aggressive over percentages and numbers 🤣 as long as you comfortable, happy, and take pride in where you live at that's all that really matters.

Which is distracting from quality discussion. Numbers are only posted to provide context, not to say the best places for Black people are the ones with the largest populations...

Telling black people that we can't have a discussion on where the most attractive places for us are reeks of looking for an echo chamber, IE, "you nikkas not agreeing that it's New York" so you come in with derail tactics...

This thread is created for discussion. Agree or not, doesn't matter, let's talk. If all you're going to do is bytch about your dissent then youre not contributing anything meaningful to the conversation anyway, so why are you here?

Now, I'm of the opinion that there is more than one "black mecca" in America because THERE ARE MORE THAN ONE population centers that are drawing black folk, and have the institutions abd legacy of drawing us. Now let's be clear:

There is no "perfect" place for black people in America. The areas that are 60% black are suffering from most of the same disenfranchisement and systemic racism against Black Americans. Like Dora, I'm also extensively traveled and have lived on both coasts and in many of the same cities she's lived in (DC, Atlanta, LA)...

The more places you see, the more if the same. Dora and I are viewing the same thing from different sides but I think at the root we aren’t actually that much in disagreement....

Atlanta is certainly an American black mecca. My issue with calling it the sole mecca, or primary one, is that I the constant glorification of blackness in Atlanta, we completely omit the ills of what the everyday black man and black family are experiencing there---->but we're all too quick to speak on the drawbacks of being black in California...

New York is certainly a black mecca, but similarly, we omit public information that Black New Yorkers are experiencing there, including the rapid flight of black people from BOTH The City and it's suburbs. If it were so unfailingly great for black people, why are black people leaving NY?

That's a rhetorical question, we know the answers, and black people leaving NY doesn't exclude it from being a black mecca. The point is we're grading LA and California on a curve that we aren't allowing for other cities even though other cities are experiencing much of the same issues Black California is..

For Dora, her emotional investment in California is probably higher than anywhere else so the criticism is harsher. For everyone else, I feel like the criticism of California serves a bias and ego to project and protect what's happening in other regions, but if we're all black and we care about the black experience we all have in this conversation why the lack of transparency of blackness across the board, why only talk about the positives of places outside California?
 
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