Leaving Neverland HBO Michael Jackson Documentary

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Finished the 1st part today and while this documentary was indeed disturbing to watch it didn't really prove anything new. Me personally I'm neutral so far. Michael definitely acted suspicious and inappropriate around children numerous of times. But so far I've yet to find any clear evidence that could prove that he actually touched any child in any sexual way. I'm assuming that the 2nd part won't give out any clear evidence either so Im probably not even gonna bother watching it. This documentary didnt really change my view on Michael on much. I still look at him just the same as before watching it. A total weirdo but also one of the greatest musical geniuses in our lifetime.
 

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For the 100th time I'm asking ABOUT THE KIDS.

Not grown women
Not his brothers or sister or mom or dad
Not his staff
Or a Pepsi Rep
Or your bytch ass

SHOULD A GROWN fukkING MAN HAVE SLEEPOVERS AND SLEEP IN THE SAME BED WITH YOUNG BOYS?

Is it acceptable to you to have sleepovers with kids as a grown man? Sleep in the same bed, have a damn carnival setup in your backyard for them to play in?

This is not a hard fukking question.

Anything outside of

"That's some sick indefensible shyt I can't condone no matter who it is" just reaks of star loving bias and is unworthy of attention as a serious response.

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SHOULD A GROWN fukkING MAN HAVE SLEEPOVERS AND SLEEP IN THE SAME BED WITH YOUNG BOYS?

Is it acceptable to you to have sleepovers with kids as a grown man? Sleep in the same bed, have a damn carnival setup in your backyard for them to play in?

This is not a hard fukking question.

Anything outside of

"That's some sick indefensible shyt I can't condone no matter who it is" just reaks of star loving bias and is unworthy of attention as a serious response.

bytch, quit all this whinin. Goddamn.:leostare:

To sum it up, you just said the only way to talk to your dumb ass is to agree with you
Which means you are, what the elders call, simple
I suspected as much because you cant hold a conversation or consider a perspective outside of your own
Yo ass is so stupid that you haven't figured out that I quit talking to you yesterday:hubie:
I just been trolling you today to get you to where you are now:angry:

Frothing at the mouth pounding on your computer desk, hollering "SLEEPOVERS WITH BOOOOOYYYYSSSSS!!!!!!":pachaha:
You focus on the obvious
You're the type of nikka they write headlines for because they know you wont read the article
I point to the heavens, you look at my finger
Your frontal lobe aint all the way developed:childplease:
Your argument doesn't merit serious response and you spelled "reeks" wrong:beli:

I could run down my personal criticisms of MJ, but that aint the gotdamn point
The only question is did he commit the crimes he's accused of
I can be thug nikka #1, but that dont mean I killed everybody that ends up dead
As far as Michael goes, just say he makes you uncomfortable or afraid because he's different
And because he's different, you dont understand him
The unevolved mind reacts with hostility and fear towards things they dont understand:damn:
And I really do think you were sexually assaulted by another man as a child
Because you view any interaction, no matter how benign, between an adult man and a child as sexual:sadbron:
That's not normal and that tells me you're triggered
I'm talking shyt and roasting but I really do hate that happened to you
A lot of victims of sexual abuse are telling on themselves in these threads:to:
People dont realize how much Black boys in particular get preyed on by predators of both sexes
They keep it to themselves more than any other group:sitdown:
But anyway, FOHWTBS, repeating your simple ass talking point with out being able to support it never wins a debate.:russell:
Do better, Hoss
And now, a super jam from the Kaing :wow::dj2:
 
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Finished the 1st part today and while this documentary was indeed disturbing to watch it didn't really prove anything new. Me personally I'm neutral so far. Michael definitely acted suspicious and inappropriate around children numerous of times. But so far I've yet to find any clear evidence that could prove that he actually touched any child in any sexual way. I'm assuming that the 2nd part won't give out any clear evidence either so Im probably not even gonna bother watching it. This documentary didnt really change my view on Michael on much. I still look at him just the same as before watching it. A total weirdo but also one of the greatest musical geniuses in our lifetime.

Molestation cases are some of the hardest to prove due to the nature of the crime. People have problems prosecuting straight up strong arm rape even with rape kits because lack of physical evidence (of a crime). So unless you're looking for video/audio of the actual events happening, you may not ever meet that bar for conviction.

So when it comes to legality, considering that you can do all of the things he was accused of without leaving behind evidence, you can beat that case. What you can't do is convince me that he didn't have a compulsion to hang around with children in an inappropriate manner. I'm not about to 'cancel' his music or legacy but I'm not about to pretend like anybody else walking this earth would ever get that much benefit of the doubt with the kind of shyt he was doing.

The most interesting part of the doc is how they're trying to explain to people that he could be/do both, in regards to being a nice, kind, gentle person while also being an abuser, most people can't reconcile that those two things can exist within someone they idolize. And it's not far fetched for a victim of abuse, especially a child to lie/cover up for someone who they are trying to protect, people acting like that's nonsensical when that's very common.

But like you, the doc didn't change my mind about Mike, his music or his legacy, because I never believed that he was innocent in the first place.
 

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He was a grown man , true, but he was a child mentally and socially due to a bizzare and unusual upbringing

You can't really hold him to the same standard your avg human isn't touring the world nonstop since 6 yrs old
 

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He was a grown man , true, but he was a child mentally and socially due to a bizzare and unusual upbringing

You can't really hold him to the same standard your avg human isn't touring the world nonstop since 6 yrs old

That's a bullshyt ass cover.

He made innuendo songs and had mad females around him in his videos, backup dancers etc

Yeah he had an unconventional childhood but shyt he should have been like Tom Hanks in Big...video games and shyt.

His music speaks for itself but damn man where there is smoke there's fire.
 

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That's a bullshyt ass cover.

He made innuendo songs and had mad females around him in his videos, backup dancers etc

Yeah he had an unconventional childhood but shyt he should have been like Tom Hanks in Big...video games and shyt.

His music speaks for itself but damn man where there is smoke there's fire.
You know he had writers right? Oddly enough r.kelly was one of them
 

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Somebody around him should have busted his jaw when he was doing all that weirdo shyt with Emmanuel Lewis.
 

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I'm sad at the fact that you're projecting the issues with your own abuse onto this case.
But If you want more bops from the Kaing, all you had to do is say so


What is this 5th grade?

Replying back with these juvenile lame-ass abuse jokes have fallen flat for 3 pages now.
 

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Abuse aint a joke, mayne
Especially the way it has affected you.

The joke is you

Anyone can shyt talk online.

Deflecting from your hero taking personal shots.

I bring up MJ, you talk about me
I bring up him hanging around boys, you talk about me.
I bring up his terrible pedo tendencies, you talk about me.

You can't even stay on topic of a grown man holding hands with little boys.
 

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These two dudes are lying period. The body language tells all. Filling in the gaps as they go. There is zero sense of realization or betrayal of trust now that they are 30+ year old grown men. No disgust in their voices. They almost speak about the abuse in glowing terms like it was the best time of their lives. This weirdo Safechuck even called it exciting and dangerous.. What kid thinks like that? And with almost two decades to process what happened to him still thinks of the abuse in almost glowing terms? He sounds like a cheating spouse who got the thrill from sneaking around. Totally unbelievable. The should be looked at with high skepticism.. they have a high incentive to lie.
 

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These two dudes are lying period. The body language tells all. Filling in the gaps as they go. There is zero sense of realization or betrayal of trust now that they are 30+ year old grown men. No disgust in their voices. They almost speak about the abuse in glowing terms like it was the best time of their lives. This weirdo Safechuck even called it exciting and dangerous.. What kid thinks like that? And with almost two decades to process what happened to him still thinks of the abuse in almost glowing terms? He sounds like a cheating spouse who got the thrill from sneaking around. Totally unbelievable. The should be looked at with high skepticism.. they have a high incentive to lie.
They were kids and developing. shyt like this can actually alter a child’s brain chemistry. And Michael Jackson was the biggest thing on Earth.

Kirstjen Nielsen, Secretary of Homeland Security, was grilled on Congress this week in the oversight committee on the fact that this trauma with separating children will alter the brain chemistry of children.

How Trauma in Childhood Affects the Brain

They didn’t know they were being abused until they got older and heard stories of other kids. And they seemed to genuinely love Mike, even after realizing what he did to them. It’s like kids with abusive parents.
 
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