LeBron: "If I get 37 shots in a game, I'm going to put up 60, 70. Easy."

[Poitier]

Lebron has more triple doubles because he's a much better passer and has better awareness on rotations than Kibe does. Kobe is a good passer but he has tunnel vision when it comes to offense.

Kobe isn't a better on-ball defender, his defensive prime was just in a time where he could handcheck. Lebron is literally a DPOTY contender as a perimeter player, ins league where the rules are now skewed to let Offensive players flourish. Let Lebron be able to hand heck and be a lot more physical and he'd be, by far, one of the most terrifying on-ball defenders.

Kobe is the better shooter and has a more versatile scoring set while Lebron is the better slasher and probably one of the best finishers around the rim ever. The mere threat of Lebron's drives Plus his awareness and passing make him have a bigger offensive impact despite Kobe being a better scorer.

When it comes down to it, Lebron can get the ball in the basket at a more efficient rate while being a better playmaker, more impactful defender, and a better rebounder. He doesn't have the same "scoring mentality" that Kobe does but he puts up similar numbers.

Look at this...

35.4 PTS on 45% (27.2 FGA) / 6 AST / 6.9 REB - this is a result of mixing Kobe's best seasons for those categories

Vs.

27.6 PTS on 49% / 6.9 AST / 7.2 REB - this is literally what Lebron AVERAGES ACROSS HIS ENTIRE CAREER including his rookie seasons

Kobe's best AST and rebound seasons ever don't compare to Lebron's average over his entire career. Simply put, Lebron does more better and his godly athleticism make him a comparable scorer to Kobe. No, Kobe doesn't have Lebron's physical gifts but that can't be held against Lebron.

Lebron has more impact on
Both ends of the court.

This whole post is inaccurate. There are no defensive metrics, definitely not DRAMP, that support Lebron as a viable DPOY. Just Lebron whining to the media to create some false narrative because anyone with any basketball savy knows, outside of MJ and a few other HOF, that a perimeter defender NEVER impacts the game like a bigman. 2012-2013 had at least 3-4 bigmen (Gasol, Duncan, Chandler, Noah, Sanders) and 2 perimeter players (George, Allen) with better cases for DPOY. Lebron gets his defensive value through help side defense and the fact that he can switch on almost anybody in the league in PnR situations. He has never been the on-ball defender that Kobe has, who has shown he can lockdown guys like Parker, Irving and Westbrook, people Lebron struggles to defend.

Lebron is a better passer but that's not why he averages more triple doubles as Kobe has had plenty of double doubles with points and assist. Kobe is a jumpshooter and farther away from the basket and thus less likely to rebound, not to mention he does not have that bigman frame that Lebron has. He is still a great rebounder for a guard.

Lebron is the greatest finisher ever but he doesn't put defenses on their heels like Kobe. He plays smart, efficient, minimalistic offensive game. You are overstating his impact in relation to Kobe.

Lebron has a higher usage rate and thus you see other players whom he plays with turn into jumpshooters (Larry Hughes, Big Z, Chris Bosh, Shaq, Wade) while Kobe is more portable with his off-ball skills (he posted his highest ORAMP playing off the ball with Nash handling it before all the injuries)

Also you should learn what AST% and REB% are because posting raw stats between a prototypical guard and a combo-forward is misleading. The fact that you say it's not close shows an obvious bias when you can't even interpret the numbers you are looking at.

 

[Stealth]

He cannot score more than 50 points in a game. He's not built for that. Passing the ball to Mario Chalmers 60 or 70 times in the 4th quarter sounds more accurate.

link me to a time that lebron passed the ball to chalmers in the closing seconds of the fourth in a tight game from the last year

ill wait.

It isn't 2011 anymore

 

[Stealth]

Not true. Kobe takes shots at end of games because they are glory shots. He gets all the credit when they go in and when he misses, people are like " it was an impossible shot anyway"

Nah if Kobe said it, it would be his ''will'' to win and be the best. But when LeBron says it it's arrogance and being cocky.

these two posts are so and fukking spot on

two of the biggest reasons why most kobe fans are fukking dumbasses. Kobe's missed way more potential GW shots when made ones but those go forgotten. Nobody ever talks about it and lebron fans don't give a fukk to constantly talk about one miss the way kobe fans do when lebron misses a GW shot. They hype the fukk up outta the makes and act like the misses never even happened. Literally like i remember one time i clowned on some kobe fans bc he missed a shot and they replied to me with "it was a tough ass shot what do you expect" but if he had made that they'd be saying shyt like "omigad blak mamba clutchest player of all time!!!! omigad kobe!!!!"

and for real breh i can't fukking stand that retarded "will to win" bullshyt persona the media has brainwashed people into believing. ESPN has fooled people into believing kobe wants to win significantly more then any other player in the league. I remember mark cuban ethered tf outta that argument on first take last year

 

[Malik]

LeBron will never have a 60, 70, 80 point game because you can't explode like that shooting layups, free throws and easy transition shots. You gonna have to make alot of nasty difficult shots over double and triple teams. Things LeBron avoids like the plague.


Also, I noticed a few weeks ago that Lebron became deadly efficient after joining Miami. Then, I also noticed that Wade & Bosh did too.


Lebron's fg% in years before decision: .475% clip
Lebron's fg% in years after decision: .538% clip

Wade's fg% in years before decision: .482% clip
Wade's fg% in years after decision: .505% clip

Bosh's fg% in years before decision: .492% clip
Bosh's fg% in years after decision: .507% clip


I'm pretty sure its just a weird coincidence though.

 

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

nikkas is maaaaaddd.

 

[Da_Eggman]

Lebron has more triple doubles because he's a much better passer and has better awareness on rotations than Kibe does. Kobe is a good passer but he has tunnel vision when it comes to offense.

Kobe isn't a better on-ball defender, his defensive prime was just in a time where he could handcheck. Lebron is literally a DPOTY contender as a perimeter player, ins league where the rules are now skewed to let Offensive players flourish. Let Lebron be able to hand heck and be a lot more physical and he'd be, by far, one of the most terrifying on-ball defenders.

Kobe is the better shooter and has a more versatile scoring set while Lebron is the better slasher and probably one of the best finishers around the rim ever. The mere threat of Lebron's drives Plus his awareness and passing make him have a bigger offensive impact despite Kobe being a better scorer.

When it comes down to it, Lebron can get the ball in the basket at a more efficient rate while being a better playmaker, more impactful defender, and a better rebounder. He doesn't have the same "scoring mentality" that Kobe does but he puts up similar numbers.

Look at this...

35.4 PTS on 45% (27.2 FGA) / 6 AST / 6.9 REB - this is a result of mixing Kobe's best seasons for those categories

Vs.

27.6 PTS on 49% / 6.9 AST / 7.2 REB - this is literally what Lebron AVERAGES ACROSS HIS ENTIRE CAREER including his rookie seasons

Kobe's best AST and rebound seasons ever don't compare to Lebron's average over his entire career. Simply put, Lebron does more better and his godly athleticism make him a comparable scorer to Kobe. No, Kobe doesn't have Lebron's physical gifts but that can't be held against Lebron.

Lebron has more impact on
Both ends of the court.

 

[Da_Eggman]

Only the Lebron stat team consistently think Lebron is more dominant than Kobe

no scouts, GMs, coaches, and every professional sports writer consistently think that

 

[Da_Eggman]

Lebron's last 2 Games. 27/37 FG 69 points

GOAT wins again

But I've never stated the Bron can't score 60

I'm saying that it would be hard for him to score 60 on only 37 shots when you're looking at his pts per attempt when he shoots more than 32 times a game and damn near impossible for him to score 70 on just 37 shots.

Lebron's last 2 Games. 27/37 FG 69 points

 

[O.T.I.S.]

no scouts, GMs, coaches, and every professional sports writer consistently think that

Wrong again bytch nikka


And here you go with this GOAT shyt. MJ didn't play last night, so who are you referring to? The nikka that ditched his contending team to ride Wades coattails to a ring?

Where do GOATS do that at???

 

[jfkennedy]

these two posts are so and fukking spot on

two of the biggest reasons why most kobe fans are fukking dumbasses. Kobe's missed way more potential GW shots when made ones but those go forgotten. Nobody ever talks about it and lebron fans don't give a fukk to constantly talk about one miss the way kobe fans do when lebron misses a GW shot. They hype the fukk up outta the makes and act like the misses never even happened. Literally like i remember one time i clowned on some kobe fans bc he missed a shot and they replied to me with "it was a tough ass shot what do you expect" but if he had made that they'd be saying shyt like "omigad blak mamba clutchest player of all time!!!! omigad kobe!!!!"

and for real breh i can't fukking stand that retarded "will to win" bullshyt persona the media has brainwashed people into believing. ESPN has fooled people into believing kobe wants to win significantly more then any other player in the league. I remember mark cuban ethered tf outta that argument on first take last year

Well no shyt Kobe has missed way more potential GW shots, you actually have to take them to miss them. And no one fukking cares ... Jordan made a damn commercial about all the shots he's missed. People in general just care when you make them. Don't isolate Kobe to that on your LeBron Nuthugging Campaign.

Furthermore, you guys don't make any sense. An impossible shot that goes in IS incredible. If you miss it, alright, the odds are against you. Why criticize fans for being excited if Kobe makes a shot with an incredibly high degree of difficulty?? You yourself just stated you're an a$$hole anyway. "i clowned on some kobe fans bc he missed a shot" What'd you expect them to say simpleton?

And if you really don't believe that some players don't give a fukk about winning as much as others then you're sadly mistaken. For some you could just give them the check and they're good. Some don't seem to even care about winning until they're in the latter stages of their career and then they go ring chasing.

 

[jfkennedy]

GOAT wins again

Lebron's last 2 Games. 27/37 FG 69 points

Two separate games =/= one game. You can't take two games and go, "oh! oh! this is proof he can do it in one game!!" I mean, not like he didn't get to rest and have fresher legs or anything. Nah.

Gotdamn, I hate arguing with you LeBron fanatics. shyt has me looking like I hate the dude when really ... I just hate y'all.

 

[holidayinn21]

GOAT wins again




Lebron's last 2 Games. 27/37 FG 69 points

 

[Goat poster]

Kobe scored 61. And didn't play the fourth
Lebron career high is 55


What a great Gawd we have

BRon's career high is 56 actually.

Now lets compare triple doubles
Assist highs
And FG percentage

 

[TheNig]

Kobe is Da Gawd. Lebron is just a King

 

[YoungMoneyCashMoneyBoy]

Savannah - "Baby, I need a dildo. You can't fukk. You can't make me cum. I need my p*ssy pounded."
Lebron - "Oh, I can make you cum. Tha Kang can fukk.....I just rather make sweet love to you and not hear you yell. The kids are in the next room"