Lebron is closer to 40 than 30 and he's hurt. Does he get a pass this year?

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Give Giannis a sidekick who can close like Kyrie and he wins rings. Yes he's a liability late but he does everything else at an elite level. All he needs is another star by his side who can cover that flaw. Similar to LeBron.

Embiid is the best player in the NBA because he's the most well-rounded. Elite on both sides of the floor. Able to create his own shot in the clutch. His only weakness is durability. Jokic is not an elite defender hence why he isn't anywhere close to Embiid.

One of the biggest falsehoods in the NBA is that Lebron isn't clutch. There's no stats to back that up. He is the go to scorer late in games and has been since the beginning of his career. Kyrie hitting one big shot in the finals changes none of that.

It's a trash argument that gets pushed on here by people that don't like Lebron
 

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Bron was 10 times the shooter Giannis is at any point of his career. So are you sure they were saying that:patrice:

Or were they saying he wasn’t clutch
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I don’t think even hating ass nikkas were saying that Bron couldn’t shoot. Especially since 10 years ago was 2011...his first year wit the Heat and he pretty much destroyed the Bulls and Celtics with his J.

Giannis literally can’t shoot...

nikka GIANNIS IS A 7 FOOT
POWER FORWARD.


HE SHOULDNT HAVE TO SHOOT THREES.

ITS JUST ANOTHER EXAMPLE
OF WHY 2DAYS GAME IS SO fukkED.

HES SUPPOSED TO BE PAIRED WITH AN ELITE WING, NOT ACTUALLY BE THE ELITE WING.

HE SHOT OVER 40%
FROM 10-23 FT THE LAST 2 SEASONS.

THEY SHOULD MAKE THAT HIS
BREAD AND BUTTER
KARL MALONE, TIM DUNCAN STYLE
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One of the biggest falsehoods in the NBA is that Lebron isn't clutch. There's no stats to back that up. He is the go to scorer late in games and has been since the beginning of his career. Kyrie hitting one big shot in the finals changes none of that.

It's a trash argument that gets pushed on here by people that don't like Lebron

Great way to change the debate. We can argue Bron and how clutch he is another time. You said Giannis isn't the best because of his late game ineffectiveness. I accepted that point but counterred with the point that if he played with a sidekick like Kyrie (who happened to play with LeBron) he would be a champion right now.

Giannis has never played with another superstar. Give him another star who can cover that one flaw and he's clearly better than LeBron right now who had AD to rely on last year.
 
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nikka GIANNIS IS A 7 FOOT
POWER FORWARD.


HE SHOULDNT HAVE TO SHOOT THREES.

ITS JUST ANOTHER EXAMPLE
OF WHY 2DAYS GAME IS SO fukkED.

HES SUPPOSED TO BE PAIRED WITH AN ELITE, NOT ACTUALLY BE THE ELITE WING.
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Dirk, KG, Tim Duncan (to a much lesser extent but still better than Giannis) all added three pointers to their game to help create space. Giannis is on that level, no reason he shouldn't be doing the same.
 

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:unimpressed:GIVE GIANNIS A TOP 10
PLAYER THE PAST 3 SEASONS
LIKE BRON USUALLY HAS
AND HES A CHAMPION RIGHT NOW.


nikka POSTING DEFENSIVE STATS
LIKE AD ISNT THE DIRECT REASON
BRONS DEFENSE LOOKS BETTER.
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Why do you just make shyt up?

1. Bron doesnt "usually" have a top-10 player.

2. You have no idea what success Giannis would have with a top-10 player, just like you didn't know that KD and Westbrook would win nothing together. People out there with "But if Jimmy Butler!" as if Butler didn't already play with Embiid and KAT without even sniffing the Finals.

3. I didn't post any "defensive stats". Bron has been playing great defense and i posted video and numerous people co-signing. And that remain true even after AD went out.

He said Bron plays no defense. Was he right or not?
 
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Great way to change the debate. We can argue Bron and how clutch he is another time. You said Giannis isn't the best because of his late game ineffectiveness. I accepted that point but counterred with the point that if he played with a sidekick like Kyrie (who happened to play with LeBron) he would be a champion right now.

Giannis has never played with another superstar. Give him another star who can cover that one flaw and he's clearly better than LeBron right now who had AD to rely on last year.

I simply don't agree with the premise that Kyree would give Giannis a title especially after what happened in Boston. I'm not letting you create a false narrative to help your argument. Lebron made the finals with scrubs, Giannis has far better teams than the Cavs team Lebron took to the finals or won 66 games with. What's his excuse?
 

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Dirk, KG, Tim Duncan (to a much lesser extent but still better than Giannis) all added three pointers to their game to help create space. Giannis is on that level, no reason he shouldn't be doing the same.
GETCHO DUMBASS OUTTA HERE.

DIRK ENTERED THE LEAGUE
A 3P SHOOTER
AND THE OTHER 2 NEVER WERE 3P SHOOTERS.

GO BACK TO TRL
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GETCHO DUMBASS OUTTA HERE.

DIRK ENTERED THE LEAGUE
A 3P SHOOTER
AND THE OTHER 2 NEVER WERE 3P SHOOTERS.

GO BACK TO TRL
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KG and Tim Duncan couldn't shoot three's? They 100% could it was just rare and only there to keep people honest. Giannis can't even do that. All you have to do is add it to keep people honest not to mention both were excellent mid range guys. Giannis doesn't even have a mid range game.
 

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Why do you just make shyt up?

1. Bron doesnt "usually" have a top-10 player.

2. You have no idea what success Giannis would have with a top-10 player, just like you didn't know that KD and Westbrook would win nothing together. People out there with "But if Jimmy Butler!" as if Butler didn't already play with Embiid and KAT without even sniffing the Finals.

3. I didn't post any "defensive stats". Bron has been playing great defense and i posted video and numerous people co-signing. And that remain true even after AD went out.

He said Bron plays no defense. Was he right or not?
THIS IS THE 1ST SEASON
EMBIID HAS BEEN ON THAT LEVEL...

:mjlol:KAT?

JIMMY HAD TO COMEBACK HURT
JUST TO CREEP THEM INTO THE PLAYOFFS.

HE WAS CLEARLY HURT THAT SERIES
SO THEY HAD ZERO CHANCE.

RUSS WAS NEVER A TOP 10
PLAYER WITH KD.
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KG and Tim Duncan couldn't shoot three's? They 100% could it was just rare and only there to keep people honest. Giannis can't even do that. All you have to do is add it to keep people honest not to mention both were excellent mid range guys. Giannis doesn't even have a mid range game.
:mjlol:GETCHO DUMBASS OUT THE COLI.

I HATE WHEN YOU WEIRDO
nikkaS COME OVER HERE
AND TRY TO TALK SPORTS.
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:scust: nikkas acting like Giannis is some scrub.
No one said Giannis is a scrub. The poster said that Giannis is "literally Bron" and that's "literally not true". If you watch bball and can't see Bron's advantages in passing, shooting, and bball IQ, I can't help you. If you've watched 8 years of Giannis in the playoffs and felt he elevated his playoff game the way Bron does, I don't know what to say to you.

Even when he played for Cleveland 1st time, Bron was only taken out by great teams, and when he went down he went down swinging. Giannis has lost to the Bulls, Raptors, Celtics, Raptors, and Heat, and often went out with a wimper.

Hell, Giannis in his 8th season and has only broken 35 points TWICE in the playoffs. Bron had done that 19 times by his 7th season in Cleveland, despise having more distribution responsibilities too. I mean fukk, young Bron went for 45+ more often than Giannis goes for 35+ despite Bron bring in a lower-scoring era.
 

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KG and Tim Duncan couldn't shoot three's? They 100% could it was just rare and only there to keep people honest. Giannis can't even do that. All you have to do is add it to keep people honest not to mention both were excellent mid range guys. Giannis doesn't even have a mid range game.
Giannis is literally shooting a better percentage from 3 this year than both KG and Duncan on more attempts. Not that he even needs to be Curry from 3 anyway.
 

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nikka GIANNIS IS A 7 FOOT
POWER FORWARD.


HE SHOULDNT HAVE TO SHOOT THREES.

ITS JUST ANOTHER EXAMPLE
OF WHY 2DAYS GAME IS SO fukkED.

HES SUPPOSED TO BE PAIRED WITH AN ELITE, NOT ACTUALLY BE THE ELITE WING.

HE SHOT OVER 40%
FROM 10-23 FT THE LAST 2 SEASONS.

THEY SHOULD MAKE THAT HIS
BREAD AND BUTTER
KARL MALONE, TIM DUNCAN STYLE
:devil:
:evil:



Where you see me mention specifically shooting 3s:dwillhuh:

Im talking about shotmaking. Dude said Bron was Giannis 10yrs ago. But that’s not factually true cause Bron could actually turn into a one man offense while Giannis can’t do that.

Bron went to the finals at 22 raining down all types of shots that Giannis couldn’t dream of making..

And you right..Giannis does need an elite wing. But Bron proved on Multiple occasions that he could even get to the finals without an elite wing.

shyt give Bron Middleton and I guarantee you he does more with him than Giannis ever could.
 

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RUSS WAS NEVER A TOP 10
PLAYER WITH KD.
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Westbrook was 1st-team All-NBA with KD and now you're trying to say he wasn't top-10. :russ:

You said Bron was "usually" with a top-10 player. If you're counting 2012-2014 Wade and 2015-2017 Kyrie as top-10 them how da fukk are you gonna pretend Westbrook wasn't when Westbrook won MVP the second KD left?

Westbrook alone was 1st or 2nd team All-NBA with KD more times (5) than ALL of Bron's teammates combined (2).
 
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