this mustve been an era where you were locked up in prison or something because youre exposing yourself heavy here
. that early bron vs kobe debate was BUILT off of stats being the reason he was better than kobe in those cleveland years IN REAL LIFE
. bron was a super polarizing player back then in a sense of people either extremely loving him (the numbers he was piling up and athleticism he was displaying) or hating him (had tons of critics who thought he had a super ugly looking game back then). this was far from an internet only thing
That was the era I was in prison but dudes in prison talk ball too. We had TVs, radios, some had phones, we had newspapers, magazines, all that shyt. In prison with dudes of all ages with all sorts of angles, being prison didn't preclude us taking part in the Bron/Kobe thing...
Thats why I'm saying no one was using analytics to support any basketball argument. As I said alota these dudes been online for decades and don't really interact much offline so their base of comparison is gonna be different...
I never heard anyone call Bron's game "ugly" til I came on here. I did however know plenty of people who preferred Kobe's game. The people who preferred LeBron in that debate, the main argument of the time was Bron was greater than Kobe at each comparable year of his career. Everyone in the world saw Bron coming. There were probably instances people used his box stats to highlight something but I'm telling you for sure, no one in the prisons I was at knew what the fukk analytics were in 2009, and certainly not sooner...
Thats what started this, lying muhfukka claiming people in the "late 00s" used
analytics to support Bron. The dudes who been online the last 20 years probably knew, I just made a distinction there's a difference between talking ball in person and talking ball on the net...
Jordan has 2 more rings, 1 more MVP, and 2 more Finals MVPs. Kareem has 2 more rings and 2 more MVPs. Russell has 7 more rings and 1 more MVP.
Using major accomplishments, there is no argument for LeBron as the GOAT. You can cherry pick random stats for any player. For example Hakeem is the only player in NBA history who is top 10 in blocks and steals. He's also the only player in NBA history to win MVP, DPOY, and Finals MVP in the same season. Does that make him the GOAT?
Just admit it. There is no objective case for LeBron being Top 3 all-time, let alone the GOAT. All you're doing is stating your personal preference.
And I respect that. I would have no issue with
@Rhakim and his ilk if they stayed consistent like you did and were arguing for the likes of Giannis being better than LeBron right now. But like you said, they simply exposed themselves as stans who were never really into analytics in the first place. They just saw it as a tool for pushing their favorite player and now that analytics are no longer in their favor, they'be switched to the eye test, playoff success, and the opinions of players/coaches/GMs.
Like you I've stayed consistent. I was 100% eye test back then and still am to this day.
The only two players more accomplished than Bron in NBA history are Jordan and Russell, measured by cumulative number of awards and trophies won. By the standard of being the third most decorated player ever, yes you can objectively argue he's the GOAT...
You can't figure out what side of the lines you're on. Post the evidence of Bron heads being upset that analytics favor Giannis currently. At this point yall nikkas just be saying shyt and gullible nikkas be eating it up with nothing to prove what yall saying in the first place...
What happened to the ole @Rhakim? You know the one who would spam threads with paragraph after paragraph of stats to prove his point? Is this all you got?
Oh yeah. All the analytics say Giannis is better than LeBron at the same age. No wonder you've given up that shtick. 
. Too much nonsense to quote. My goodness
nikka really said bron stans don't use stats. I can't get over that.
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