Lebron is now the all time leading scorer in playoff history passing MJ :mjcry:

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Right. Kyrie hit the key shot last year. What's that nikka point. Didn't Lebron lose to two teams Kobe beat and won finals MVP over? That's the question them nikkas should ask
Lebron led both teams in all stats dummie.

Also made the game sealing FT
 
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I love the implicit admission that you never read the posts you respond to :jjjjj:
To be fair how many coli brehs got the heart to read through half of his caps lock retard rants

Edit: This dude really hyped up the Nuggets as some sort of threat in the west:mjlol:. Nobody fearing a George Karl/Melo paired playoff team in the post season. This the same coach that couldn't draw up an out of bounds play in the final seconds of a game. This is coming from a Nuggets fan
 
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I don't think Lebron pads his stats any more than Jordan or Kobe ever did. He does do it on occasion, but I've seen many elite players do it.

Many elite players do indeed pad their stats from time to time; however, very few of them force teams to create a system primarily designed around them getting individual stats.

Jordan would be a good example of this. Prior to him playing in the triangle offense, he was a 32-8-8 player. He could've averaged those same numbers for the next five seasons if he wanted to, but he sacrificed his overall stats when he bought into the triangle. He was criticized for stat-padding prior to PJ becoming coach, though, if that means anything.

Kobe never got the chance to pad stats due to first being a bench player, then being in the triangle for nearly his entire career as a starter. The triangle automatically kills individual stats.

Stat padding is really only problematic when it leads to poor decision making.

It's problematic when it leads to a player ball-hogging at the expense of the team, as well.

Then there's the "empty stat" syndrome which isn't quite stat padding (in my opinion). For example, Chris Webber and Kevin Love can have gaudy numbers and sometimes you don't really see the numbers develop. But the impact on the game can be less than the numbers indicate.

Agreed.

Lebron's stats usually are proportional to his impact.

I would disagree. LeBron usually forces teams to build offenses around him that don't interfere with his individual stats. This is usually to the detriment of most of the many all-star players who play with him, but in the east they get away with it. It's when he's against elite teams, you see how exposed this method is.

Take last year's Finals for example. In Gms 1,2 & 4, LeBron put up very good all-around stats for the most part. If you primarily went off the box score(which most people do) you would've thought he was having a monster series up to that point. It's only when you actually watch the games that you see how misleading his numbers were. He was often non-aggressive and seemingly disinterested for several stretches when his team wasn't playing well, then after the game had already been decided he would start attempting layups and easy floaters to get his numbers and shooting percentage up.

There were several threads made about that last year on this very forum. Same thing happened in 2014 Finals when he showed up for one quarter per game over the last three games. His stats looked good, but they were woefully misleading with respect to being proportional to his impact.
 

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BRO, CHALK IT UP AS A LOSS AND MOVE ALONG..U MADE A GRAMMATICAL ERROR. ITS OK.. LMMFAO.

Wrong as usual, Elinor. I'm guessing you never got through college. Not sure why you think you can ba your way through an argument. You're just a crash test dummy.
 

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IT'S ONE OF THE MANY REFERENCES..WHAT UR DOIN IS EQUIVALENT TO SOME1 SAYIN "LEBRON IS BETTER THAN KOBE" AND THEN CLAIMING "ONE OF THE REASONS IS BECAUSE LEBRON AVERAGES 30 PPG ON HIS CAREER". AND THEN THAT PERSON ARGUIN THEIR NOTION WOULD STICK TO THAT POINT EVERY TIME THE DEBATE IS BROUGHT UP, BECAUSE THEY LACK INTELLIGENCE TO MAKE BROADER POINTS BEYOND THAT...

ALA

"NO, YOU'RE STUPID AND LEBRON IS NOT BETTER THAN KOBE. HE NEVER AVERAGED 30 POINTS!"

^^MONTHS LATER AFTER THAT WAS EVEN SAID.....IN ALMOST EVERY POST LOLSMFH.

U CALL OTHER PEOPLE AUTISTIC, BUT I'M STARTING TO FEEL LIKE YOU'RE PROJECTING, CONSIDERING YOUR OBSESSIONS WIT SUBSIDIARY TALKING POINTS PRETTY MUCH MIRRORS THE BEHAVIOR OF AN AUTISTIC PERSON.


Lol at this dweeb writing essays in crayon and projecting like trump. Please provide proof you graudated college. Or even high school.

Your problem is credibility. You lie then after you get caught you lie about the lie. You cited the supreme Court as an authority and you were wrong. You made the supreme Court's opinion dispositive on the issue. Stupid cac.
 

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Let's say the Lakers need to buy something for $100. Shaq puts up $70. Kobe come around and provides a $30 check. Kobestans give kobe all the credit for the purchase.

Then when kobes check bounces they blame odumb and gasol.
Sccits father will cover the difference and charge 400% interest on it because he's a Jew.

And he will collect the $35 in overdraft fees from Kobes bad check and buy his family a nice slow cooked brisket. Because he's a Jew.
 

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as usual most of yall are missing the real point.

Why do most super stars end up scoring a lot of points if they stay healthy? because they start on super terrible teams from day one as the main guy.

kobe was a bench player until he had to take an allstars spot.

lebron walked into a terrible team and was the #1 guy from day 1. same with AI in philly, Vince in toronto. Ray allen in seattle. KG in minny.

Jordan in chicago..

we can go on and on.

Kobe's situation is super unique. I dont know if their is one like it where a Top 5 greatest of all time guy at some point in his career early on was a bench guy sitting behind an allstar because the team he played for was already pretty good.

usually these type of guys never pan out to be super greats like a kobe. lebron is going to fry every kobe stat their is that deals with totals because of this very thing. and like someone said, its sure nice playing in the worse conference every year.
number 3 in points all time play off (will finish 1)
number 3 in assist all time play off
number 7 in reboung all time play off (might finish 4)

no one player has this pedigree...


check his STATS yall....check his stats :picard:

To be fair before 03 the first round was a 5game series and back in like the 70s and down there were fewer rounds but still lebron is an all time great and top 5 alltime
 

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To be fair before 03 the first round was a 5game series and back in like the 70s and down there were fewer rounds but still lebron is an all time great and top 5 alltime
That shyt really does a number on playoff scoring for Kareem. Lot fewer games for him to play in. The current 16 team format didn't come along until I think 1984.
 

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Lol at this dweeb writing essays in crayon and projecting like trump. Please provide proof you graudated college. Or even high school.

Your problem is credibility. You lie then after you get caught you lie about the lie. You cited the supreme Court as an authority and you were wrong. You made the supreme Court's opinion dispositive on the issue. Stupid cac.


THERE U GO WIT THEM AUTISTIC TRAITS I WAS TALKIN ABOUT.. I JUS SAID U WERE PROJECTING AND WHAT DO U DO? U GO AHEAD AND COPY WHAT I SAID ABOUT U AS YOUR REPLY. AUTISTIC PEOPLE ARE ALSO KNOWN FOR REPEATING WHAT THEY JUS HEARD. NO BS, IM BEGINNING TO FEEL YOUR STRUGGLES MORE N MORE WIT EACH POST.
 

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That shyt really does a number on playoff scoring for Kareem. Lot fewer games for him to play in. The current 16 team format didn't come along until I think 1984.

Yeah not just Kareem but wilt to hell imagine if Jordan played his career with best of 7 first round series I don't think lebron would be as high as he is but all in all what he's doing is still impressive
 

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Sccits father will cover the difference and charge 400% interest on it because he's a Jew.

And he will collect the $35 in overdraft fees from Kobes bad check and buy his family a nice slow cooked brisket. Because he's a Jew.


AND YOURE A BROKE BETA MALE WIT NOTHIN TO YOUR NAME CUZ U NOT A JEW

:umad:
 
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