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To me it seemed that way. Bron can get his numbers in his sleep without trying. Just like the 27 19 he put up in 2010 against Boston looked good from the outside looking in. But looking at that game live you can tell he didn't give it his all.

So he wasn't giving his all but still dropping buckets, better stats, more wins, and a better record :mjlol:

Only Lebron can own head to head matchups while putting up better numbers but still get accused of not "doing enough",
 
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So Kobe is scared of Lebron because he never stops Lebron from destroying the Lakers when he plays.

Same way that Kobe could never step up and guard Nash in the playoffs

Actually Kobe used to guard LeBron a lot when he was on the Cavs in his younger days. There are a number of highlights of Kobe putting the clamps on LeBron defensively in 2005-06.

Kobe just didn't guard him when he went to the Heat cause Kobe had to deal with Wade as well who plays SG like him. Plus at that time the Lakers had Artest who matched up better with Bron than Wade.

Also LeBron uses a lot of pick n rolls to attack the defense so it's not really useful for Kobe to guard him since it's unlikely that it will come to a one on one confrontation. LeBron is a weak one on one player that would get embarrassed by Kobe in a game if he wasn't allowed to use picks. That's the main reason Kobe embarrassed him in that all-star game one year. Without picks LeBron becomes rather ordinary. And in an all-star game if someone wants you one on one you can't really call for picks to save you.
 

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Actually Kobe used to guard LeBron a lot when he was on the Cavs in his younger days. There are a number of highlights of Kobe putting the clamps on LeBron defensively in 2005-06.

Kobe just didn't guard him when he went to the Heat cause Kobe had to deal with Wade as well who plays SG like him. Plus at that time the Lakers had Artest who matched up better with Bron than Wade.

Also LeBron uses a lot of pick n rolls to attack the defense so it's not really useful for Kobe to guard him since it's unlikely that it will come to a one on one confrontation. LeBron is a weak one on one player that would get embarrassed by Kobe in a game if he wasn't allowed to use picks. That's the main reason Kobe embarrassed him in that all-star game one year. Without picks LeBron becomes rather ordinary. And in an all-star game if someone wants you one on one you can't really call for picks to save you.

Kawhi guards Lebron just fine even with PnR :mjlol:

Butler did fine :mjlol:

Kobe can't deal with picks and people calling him a good defender :mjlol:
 
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Confirmation bias is a thing. So Bron gets his usual or better numbers, usually leads his team to wins against Kobe, and looks passive while doing so?

He's done this since he was on the Cavs and Kobe/Lakers have never done anything to really slow him down. Lebron just doesn't feel Kobe is worth that extra gear, probably because he tends to own the Lakers when he plays them. He treats them like he does the Bulls.

No it's not confirmation bias. Its knowing basketball.

LeBron is not a one on one player like Kobe. For example, when Kobe embarrasses an opponent it's typically by using him legendary one on one skills to score. LeBron is a TERRIBLE one on one player. He typically dominates games using the pick n roll and scoring in transition.

So yes he always puts up nice stats against the Lakers but it's NEVER on Kobe in a one on one situation. That why you can't find any highlights of LeBron embrassing Kobe in a one on one situation. While as evidenced by the gifs and videos posted in this thread, there are a bevy of moments of Kobe embrassing LeBron in one on one situations.

Just think back to the all-star game in 2011. The reason that happened in an all-star game rather than a regular season game is cause there aren't many picks sets in an all-star game. When Kobe started hounding LeBron late in that game, it became a one on one matchup and the East all-stars were not gonna save him by giving him a pick. Since LeBron has no one on one moves and since he couldn't get help from a teammate in the form of a pick, he was embarrassed by Kobe in CONSECUTIVE possessions. It was shocking cause we rarely see an elite player get embarrassed like that on CONSECUTIVE possessions in an all-star game.

This is one of the main reasons Michael Jordan doesn't respect LeBron but respects Kobe. He knows he could just kill LeBron's ass one on one if they ever matched up cause LeBron has no one on one skills. But he respects Kobe because he knows his game is the same as his own and it would take his all to beat Kobe.
 
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Kawhi guards Lebron just fine even with PnR :mjlol:

Butler did fine :mjlol:

Kobe can't deal with picks and people calling him a good defender :mjlol:

Kobe is a one on one player. Both offensively and defensively. He's built to dominate the game in that fashion. With regard to team defense, he loses interest when he gets picked or when he has to chase guys off the ball through picks. He's very mano y mano when it comes to basketball so he likes individual confrontation. I just think he loses respect and interest when he sees guys use picks or run thru screens.


Remember Ray Allen was killing him in 2008 having to chase him around all those picks. Lakers got back into that series by switching Fisher onto Allen and putting Kobe on Rondo. Kobe's always been a better one on one defender than a team defender. That's why he got respect from his peers and coaches all those years. Cause it's alot harder to stop a guy one on one than in the team context where you get weakside defense.

Even Superman has a weakness. Unlike you I'm realistic about Kobe and his weaknesses as a player. His strengths outweigh the few weaknesses but he did have his flaws.
 

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So he wasn't giving his all but still dropping buckets, better stats, more wins, and a better record :mjlol:

Only Lebron can own head to head matchups while putting up better numbers but still get accused of not "doing enough",
Post the times Bron was scoring those points on Kobe or locking Bean up. Again, of course Bron is going to get his numbers. He did in the Finals in 2014 too but are we going to sit here and say Kawhi didn't make him work for it? Ima Bron fan for life but if I see something that don't look right on the court I'm not afraid to say something about it.
 

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not like I just made up the fukking numbers you fukking numbskulls, and I just linked up with about 10 dudes, so if yall want to start this negging shyt, we can go :yeshrug:
 

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Post the times Bron was scoring those points on Kobe or locking Bean up. Again, of course Bron is going to get his numbers. He did in the Finals in 2014 too but are we going to sit here and say Kawhi didn't make him work for it? Ima Bron fan for life but if I see something that don't look right on the court I'm not afraid to say something about it.

Except he lost in 2014 finals and WON way more times than Kobe while posting better numbers, across the entire board.

Who cares if he "worked for it", he still posted better numbers in damn near every category while having almost TRIPLE the wins in their head to head matchup (16 to 6).

What the fukk is your point? That Lebron didn't ISO Kobe on every single fukking possession?
 

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Except he lost in 2014 finals and WON way more times than Kobe while posting better numbers, across the entire board.

Who cares if he "worked for it", he still posted better numbers in damn near every category while having almost TRIPLE the wins in their head to head matchup (16 to 6).

What the fukk is your point? That Lebron didn't ISO Kobe on every single fukking possession?
The point is that Bron didn't guard Kobe much when the two teams played.
 

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The point is that Bron didn't guard Kobe much when the two teams played.



Lebron scored on whoever the Lakers put on him in the Cav days. Kobe not constantly guarding James was more that Lebron is a goddamn monster at drawing fouls and you don't tend to put your best defensive player on their best offensive player in the first half because elite offensive players will make you foul them.

Lebron isn't "scared" of Kobe. Either go post some fukking videos or proof of Lebron legit refusing to attack when Kobe is on him or shut the fukk up.

Lebron has shown legit frustration at guys like Kawhi, Butler, and Iggy but he tends to go at them to yet nikkas just "remember" Lebron leading his team to almost triple the wins that Kobe has while putting up better numbers than Kobe but he was "stat-padding" and putting up instant numbers. :mjlol:

You nikkas think basketball is a one on one ISO sport where the two players on each team take turns going ISO against each other. Lebron is getting talked down for literally attacking mismatches because Kobe either can't get through screens (Something every elite defender in the league deals with) or because Phil hid Kobe to either conserve his energy or not to risk his best player as if Kobe couldn't get asked to guard James whenever he wants.
 

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You know you made your point when they start negging you for posting Factual stats

not like I just made up the fukking numbers you fukking numbskulls, and I just linked up with about 10 dudes, so if yall want to start this negging shyt, we can go :yeshrug:

You already lied on the last page, want to lie again on this page???

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You only posted the numbers up to 2008, and even then you left out SIXTEEN numbers that didn't fit your agenda. You just skipped all the ones that looked good.

And the 2010-present shooting chart you posted for him looks GREAT.

You're such a fukking liar. You can't even write a simple post without distorting shyt, and when you get called out on it, you just repeat yourself the next day hoping no one will notice.
 
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