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Never...... until he proves he can dominate without having a team full of superstars and HOF's. On another team, Dwyane Wade would be a rival to Durant and Bron, as the best SG in the league. Bosh would go back to being a top 5 forward on another squad. Ray Allen is the best three point shooter to lace up in NBA history, alongside Curry. These are his teammates. He can't win with a Pau Gasol or a Jason Terry or a Manu Ginobli or a Chauncey Billups....he has to have the BEST players in the league so his team is so lopsided, it's no competition.

pau and manu are HOFs....wade wouldnt be healthy enough to compete if he didnt have lebron to carry the team during the season. ray allen is the 2nd oldest player in the league.

miami has won back to back titles with the smallest frontline in the league. how do you think thats possible ? what other great players win without stars
?? :what:
 

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He's definitely surpassed Bird by now as the greatest small forward ever and while it's still too early barring injury or his game completely falling off he'll be top 5 when he retires. I've already got him as top ten in my eyes.


bron does not have bird's iq and bron and these heat would not have beat the best celtic's team.
bron and the heat would not have beat the badboys, bulls first repeat doberman defense team.
nor, the 69-13 sixers, or the laker 69-13, either.
i am huge on bron, but i saw the celt's and bird in person in the off's twice.
after mike went for 63, and then again the next year when the bulls got bounced by the celt's.

bron, is good in the low bball iq era, but in the old high iq nba.
bron would have gotten exposed, by better solid teams.
that bird and the celt's had a mental and execution edge on, to own the whole league.

magic need:

kareem
worthy: worthy was the difference maker, but i don't see the heat beating the celts.
plus, they have no interior d.

if len bias lived, i really don't see anyone beating the celt's in the eighties.
as len bias was the goat jordan's only actual equal.
bias could have been as good.
argueably better and had a MUCH higher bball iq than bron, too.
plus, he could kill a zone, where bron has had historical issues with zones.
bias owned the zone, and so did BIRD.

celt's would have had a whip

dj
bias
bird
mchale
chief

i don't know if i can say bron was better at sf, than:

connie hawkins
dr j

no way, bron is the best sf of all time.
you could use the rings arguement, but real talk, as a skilled ball player.
bron is not better than hawkins, or dr j.



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Pippen vs Bron vs Bird in their primes would be very interesting


pippen was mentally weak and schlup'd after mike returned.
bird, never schlup'd and was mentally superior than bron and pip combined.
doctor j and hawkins were superior to bird, pip, and bron, rather easily.

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For what it's worth, Bill Simmons put Lebron in the top 5 ever on Lebatard's show on Friday. BS said LBJ finally surpassed Bird this year and he's the biggest Celtics fan. BS's list is...

MJ
Russell
Kareem
Magic
Lebron

He went on to say that LBJ will probably pass Magic next year with another typical LBJ year and will easily catch Kareem. He said he would never catch MJ and Russell though...
 

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For what it's worth, Bill Simmons put Lebron in the top 5 ever on Lebatard's show on Friday. BS said LBJ finally surpassed Bird this year and he's the biggest Celtics fan. BS's list is...

MJ
Russell
Kareem
Magic
Lebron

He went on to say that LBJ will probably pass Magic next year with another typical LBJ year and will easily catch Kareem. He said he would never catch MJ and Russell though...


bron will never be better than magic, Kareem, dr j, Hawkins, mj, or wilt.


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well i guess hes better than jordan now :mjlol:
 

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pau and manu are HOFs....wade wouldnt be healthy enough to compete if he didnt have lebron to carry the team during the season. ray allen is the 2nd oldest player in the league.

miami has won back to back titles with the smallest frontline in the league. how do you think thats possible ? what other great players win without stars
?? :what:

This dumbass logic again?

Dudes have nothing at this point and are just grasping at straws with their own arbitrary ass benchmarks. :mjlol:
 
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