That's the point of the thread. He "keeps cookin defenders with this weak ass move." No one understands how, when it' so choreographed. Any solid defender should have it down.
LeBron keeps cookin defenders with this weak ass move
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That's the point of the thread. He "keeps cookin defenders with this weak ass move." No one understands how, when it' so choreographed. Any solid defender should have it down.
seems to me that if a move has a high degree of efficacy then it isnt weak no matter how "choreographed" it may be
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move pretty damn nice to me 
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What does ghosts have to do with anything?
The same thing it had to do with Harden last season and how he gets defended.
not at allThe same thing it had to do with Harden last season and how he gets defended.
murksiderock
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I know what you're talking about, and don't disagree with the notion that theoretically, it should be easier to stop since it is choreographed...
The only real answers have to be that a)his release must be quicker in real time, live action than we can conceptualize on TV, and b)we know he's lightning quick in general, so if you press him you run the risk of a different disastrous finish...
LeBron is the ultimate pick your poison player. In theory a number of things should be easy to stop but reality is its gotta be more difficult than armchair analysis says it is...
And Kobe's BBIQ is golden, but his statement about how "easy" to stop Bron comes off as bravado. Besides the exhibition scrimmages or games that people love to cite, Bean didn't exactly have a great success rate of stopping Bron so I've always taken his comment to be strictly bravado and IQ-based, not results-driven...
If the only reason that your move works is because you're LeBron, then is the move good? Not LeBron, the move itself? Guys go to learn from Hakeem and Nash because they have move and elements in their game that everyone can incorporate because it's based on fundamental skill and translatable. If LeBron taught other players to do this, would it be effective? I don't think it would.
so what you are saying is that lebron is customizing moves to fit him. sounds creative to me
Mr Hate Coffee
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This thread got long as shyt! 
I created it because I was
@ the clip but I'll be damned if I didn't incite some stan wars. 
I created it because I was
@ the clip but I'll be damned if I didn't incite some stan wars. lol! I got time today!!!This thread got long ass shyt!
I created it because I was
Not sure how the thread not only went beyond this...but went 20 pages.
It's pretty obvious. The scouting report has been out there for 20 years...you want to force him to shoot. If you sell out on that, you are setting yourself up for the stuff that your entire defense is geared towards preventing. So it's a testament to his overall ability. People often underrate simple things, when they often tend to be most effective.
I see your point and I would like to challenge it respectfully. Is transferrability really the standard in basketball? Your individual traits play a major role in your game. For example, how many 6' guards are working with Dream? How many of them do you see doing the sky hook? Conversely, are Embiied and Porzingis working with Nash? The Dream Shake itself, while more aestetically pleasing, is pretty simple and from your couch looks like it should be easier to guard than it is. Same with the Smitty. You see guys talking about how pump fakes are in the scouting report and yet they still find themselves going for them. The issue that so many great players have in relating to other players or coaching is that you can't teach what they do. Or rather, others can't replicate it.