Lebron the most successful failure in history.

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He's got nothing :mjlol:. No need to be defensive. You said some shyt that was wrong and it got shut down. It happens :yeshrug:.
Shut down by who. Not getting defensive just stating the truth. When someone is on Brons nuts it's all good but as soon as they give him a little bit of criticism the vultures come out. You aint shut nothing down homie and what I got to get mad about. We can go back and forth on this all day.
 

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Ion even rock with Kobe like that but lets be real the only reason he didn't score but 1 point in the second half is cause he just stopped shooting the ball on some stubborn trying to prove a point type shyt. Kobe is a lot of things but passive isn't one of them.

So there's justification for Kobe's bad games and scoring performances when he straight gave up on his team in a game 7 but that's just him being stubborn.

Lebron has a bad game against Boston and got blown out by 32 bu that's just him quitting but Kobe was trying to prove a point.
 

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Shut down by who. Not getting defensive just stating the truth. When someone is on Brons nuts it's all good but as soon as they give him a little bit of criticism the vultures come out. You aint shut nothing down homie and what I got to get mad about. We can go back and forth on this all day.[/QUOTE

What truth? You stating straight bullshyt. How the fukk does Lebron not have a second gear when he has NUMEROUS huge games and one of the best elimination/game 7 performers of all time?
 

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Shut down by who. Not getting defensive just stating the truth. When someone is on Brons nuts it's all good but as soon as they give him a little bit of criticism the vultures come out. You aint shut nothing down homie and what I got to get mad about. We can go back and forth on this all day.

No we can go back and forth on emotional bs all day (actually we can't because I don't do that but you get the point). The actual facts (that you have avoided or spun) are what they are and they did in deed shut you down which is why you would rather call people names and argue against strawmen which are dead giveaways of defensiveness. If you have some factual or logical rebuttals to what I have said then we can continue this discussion. You got some more names and strawmen and baseless assertions then I am done.
 

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Bron just doesn't have that next level that a player of his talent should have. The shyt that made Duncan Kobe Jordan Magic Bird what they were. Like after the altercation with Green last night best believe Jordan would have come down the floor and scored on 2 or 3 straight possessions to prove a point. Bron doesn't seem to have that gene in him or at least he doesn't no when to turn it on. Is it that hard to go into that zone that he went into in 2012 against the Celtics in game 6?

This is what your dumbass statement said. You said that he didn't have the next level like those players which is among the stupidest shyt I've read. You trying to flip it like you just said he was being passive sometimes but you ignore all the times those other players had passive or bad games.

Now keep backtracking and acting like you didn't say Lebron can't go into that zone despite the fact that he's had numerous huge (Almost historically good) games in the playoffs where his back/team was against the wall.
 

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So there's justification for Kobe's bad games and scoring performances when he straight gave up on his team in a game 7 but that's just him being stubborn.

Lebron has a bad game against Boston and got blown out by 32 bu that's just him quitting but Kobe was trying to prove a point.

Power of perception breh. If I have decided you are an alpha warrior everything that happens will be spun to fit that narrative. If I have decided you are a passive athletic freak with no fundamentals then everything will be spun to fit that. Reality and logic and consistency do not matter.
 

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No we can go back and forth on emotional bs all day (actually we can't because I don't do that but you get the point). The actual facts (that you have avoided or spun) are what they are and they did in deed shut you down which is why you would rather call people names and argue against strawmen which are dead giveaways of defensiveness. If you have some factual or logical rebuttals to what I have said then we can continue this discussion. You got some more names and strawmen and baseless assertions then I am done.
Then be done with it. Act like Bron has only played passively in 2010 or 2011. In the Finals against the Spurs in 13 everyone and their mama was screaming at the tv for Bron to turn it up. In one game only after his team was up by a lot did he turn it up. I think it was the one where he got the block against Splitter. Everyone remembers that but fail to forget he struggled the whole game until his TEAM blew it open. Ion care if you respond or not (wont lose any sleep) but to act like Bron brings it everytime and it's always his team letting him down and not HIM sometimes is a farce. To act like he doesn't play to lose sometimes instead of to win is another fallacy. Now I'm the biggest Bron supporter on here but debating with cats like you got me looking like a hater which I am far from being.
 

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Power of perception breh. If I have decided you are an alpha warrior everything that happens will be spun to fit that narrative. If I have decided you are a passive athletic freak with no fundamentals then everything will be spun to fit that. Reality and logic and consistency do not matter.

I'm saying. People still spin the narrative that Lebron has no post game lmao
 

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So there's justification for Kobe's bad games and scoring performances when he straight gave up on his team in a game 7 but that's just him being stubborn.

Lebron has a bad game against Boston and got blown out by 32 bu that's just him quitting but Kobe was trying to prove a point.
Did you look at the games in question or are you just going off analysis? You can think Bron gave his all or didn't quit against Boston if you want but that's on you. Guess cause he had a triple double that game he gave it his all huh.
 

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This is what your dumbass statement said. You said that he didn't have the next level like those players which is among the stupidest shyt I've read. You trying to flip it like you just said he was being passive sometimes but you ignore all the times those other players had passive or bad games.

Now keep backtracking and acting like you didn't say Lebron can't go into that zone despite the fact that he's had numerous huge (Almost historically good) games in the playoffs where his back/team was against the wall.
I said he cant go into the ZONE at will and I stand by that statement . I never said he cant go into the zone at all. Just that he doesn't always do it as needed.
 

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Then be done with it. Act like Bron has only played passively in 2010 or 2011. In the Finals against the Spurs in 13 everyone and their mama was screaming at the tv for Bron to turn it up. In one game only after his team was up by a lot did he turn it up. I think it was the one where he got the block against Splitter. Everyone remembers that but fail to forget he struggled the whole game until his TEAM blew it open. Ion care if you respond or not (wont lose any sleep) but to act like Bron brings it everytime and it's always his team letting him down and not HIM sometimes is a farce. To act like he doesn't play to lose sometimes instead of to win is another fallacy. Now I'm the biggest Bron supporter on here but debating with cats like you got me looking like a hater which I am far from being.

So he didn't take over on both ends when they were down 10 in the 4th in game 6 with the season on the line? He didn't score 38 including 5-10 from 3 and hit the dagger J to seal the title? List for me all the guys that have stepped up bigger and more often than Bron in the last 13 years. Then show me the post where I said it's never on him and that he is beyond criticism (when it's actually warranted). You are harping on shyt that happened in series that he won and came up huge in the end :dead:. Usually only haters do that :ld:.
 

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Power of perception breh. If I have decided you are an alpha warrior everything that happens will be spun to fit that narrative. If I have decided you are a passive athletic freak with no fundamentals then everything will be spun to fit that. Reality and logic and consistency do not matter.
Power of perception is right. Cause I see a lot of cats look at the boxscore and see certain numbers and perceive that a player had a great game. When actually looking at the action on the floor is what tells the real story.
 

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Then be done with it. Act like Bron has only played passively in 2010 or 2011. In the Finals against the Spurs in 13 everyone and their mama was screaming at the tv for Bron to turn it up. In one game only after his team was up by a lot did he turn it up. I think it was the one where he got the block against Splitter. Everyone remembers that but fail to forget he struggled the whole game until his TEAM blew it open. Ion care if you respond or not (wont lose any sleep) but to act like Bron brings it everytime and it's always his team letting him down and not HIM sometimes is a farce. To act like he doesn't play to lose sometimes instead of to win is another fallacy. Now I'm the biggest Bron supporter on here but debating with cats like you got me looking like a hater which I am far from being.

Only on the Coli is a series where Lebron averaged 25/10/7, leading his team in every statistical category except blocks while playing 43 minutes against a top 3 defense in the league, an example of Lebron being passive.

fukk the fact that he just had a 7 game series against the best defense in the league where he averaged 42 minutes or any of that..nah, Lebron is just passive.
 

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So he didn't take over on both ends when they were down 10 in the 4th in game 6 with the season on the line? He didn't score 38 including 5-10 from 3 and hit the dagger J to seal the title? List for me all the guys that have stepped up bigger and more often than Bron in the last 13 years. Then show me the post where I said it's never on him and that he is beyond criticism (when it's actually warranted). You are harping on shyt that happened in series that he won and came up huge in the end :dead:. Usually only haters do that :ld:.
Never said he didn't but also wont say that he didn't struggle as much or as more then he shined in that same series. Ur definition of stepping up is based on the fact that he has the highest scoring average in games 7 and whatnot. But it should be how and when those points are gotten that matters most. If you have 32 points and 25 came in the first 3 quarters that doesn mean as much to me as having 32 and getting 16 of them in the 4th.
 

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I'm saying. People still spin the narrative that Lebron has no post game lmao

Teams straight up triple team him if he has his back to the basket within 15 feet of the basket but...bu..but his post game is weak :mjlol:.
 
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