LeBron's Over thinking is his biggest weakness. *Rational Discussion no hate needed*

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Did people not sensationalize Mike and Kobe's exploits? They still do so to this day. The biggest difference between Lebron and Kobe/Mike is that in addition to carrying the scoring, playmaking, and perimeter defense load he is his teams best rebounder and rim protector (that plays the whole game that is, looks forward to this being overlooked).

People are putting too much thought into this. Spurs got hot in the 1st qtr and never looked back. Just like he got hot in the 3rd qtr of Game 3.
 

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People are putting too much thought into this. Spurs got hot in the 1st qtr and never looked back. Just like he got hot in the 3rd qtr of Game 3.

I am guessing that was meant as a response to my other post but yeah I agree. If a team shoots 90 fukkin % for an entire quarter all you can say is :whew: and move on to the next one.
 

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Who puts more energy into defense and offense as Lebron in NBA history? I am a big man type of person who been watching for years, I can't think of anyone who has come close to what Lebron has done this year.
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I am guessing that was meant as a response to my other post but yeah I agree. If a team shoots 90 fukkin % for an entire quarter all you can say is :whew: and move on to the next one.

Pretty much. Wasn't shyt he could have done last night. Even after the Spurs let the lead swindle a lil bit, they turned that shyt right back on by the middle of the 4th.


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Did people not sensationalize Mike and Kobe's exploits? They still do so to this day. The biggest difference between Lebron and Kobe/Mike is that in addition to carrying the scoring, playmaking, and perimeter defense load he is his teams best rebounder and rim protector (that plays the whole game that is, looks forward to this being overlooked).
I get that but that doesn't mean he's exerting more effort than them. Like the fact that he's his teams best rebounder and a better rebounder than MJ and Kobe is not because he exerts more effort than them. I'd think it has something to do with him playing SF and being 40 pounds heavier than them. Like I said lebron does do a lot, but he's not doing any more effort wise than his successors . Oh and lebron is a rim protector? :childplease:
 

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Spurs is just a damn good team. They outplayed the Heat in the first half and it was just too much for the Heat to overcome in the 2nd half. shyt isn't rocket science.

The Heat narrowly escaped last year's finals and really should have lost game 6 and the championship. Bron would have gotten killed by everybody. That desperation 3 point shot Ray hit to force overtime have really changed the course of everyone's perception of Bron. People either really love him or want him to lose.
 

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:what: You do realize Jordan had a season where he scored 37ppg and won defensive player of the year. You do realize Jordan won rings at 34 and 35 years old right, scoring 30ppg and winning Finals MVP. LeBron isn't doing anything any other great hasn't been asked to do at some point. Its the burden you carry if you want to win rings.

LeBron is Miami's best defender though and its not close. MJ had Pip, Grant, Rodman, Cartwright, Harper etc. Kobe had Shaq, Gasol, Fox, Metta, Harper.

Miami's best perimeter defender outside of Bron is Norris Cole and their best defensive big man is Birdman. Ray Allen and Wade are turnstiles, Battier is done. Bosh is soft and Rashard Lewis can barely move.
 

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I get that but that doesn't mean he's exerting more effort than them. Like the fact that he's his teams best rebounder and a better rebounder than MJ and Kobe is not because he exerts more effort than them. I'd think it has something to do with him playing SF and being 40 pounds heavier than them. Like I said lebron does do a lot, but he's not doing any more effort wise than his successors . Oh and lebron is a rim protector? :childplease:

The fact that he's his teams best rebounder is all about the fact that he doesn't have a Shaq or Rodman or even Grant/Pau/Bynum level player in the post. Odom grabbed more boards on a consistent basis than any of the other Heat starters. Of their starters who is a better rim protector?
 

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The Shaq/Kobe Lakers ran the offense through Shaq, the "others" got shots off his double teams. Kobe's main job was to score. The Kobe/Gasol Lakers he had more "playmaking" duties, but still mainly responsible for scoring especially late.

On this Heat squad, Ray, Lewis, Bosh etc. get most of their looks through Lebron and his ability to survey the floor and find shooters. That's why the offense goes into the tank when he's not on the court. None of those guys can consistently get their own shot. Well, Bosh can he just doesn't for some reason.:ld:

False. From 2001

"Kobe's become the floor leader of a basketball team that was kind of looking for that nature of a player, who could not only be a scorer, but also be a playmaker or consistently make big plays at critical times," Jackson said. "So it was very important for Kobe to step into that role that he was envisioned at. I've always held the bar up very high for Kobe, and he's not only reached that bar, but he's jumping over the top of it right now.

"And I think it's the best that I've ever seen a player of mine play with an overall court game. I'm asking him to do so much, and he's accomplishing it."

Jackson was quickly asked for a clarification. That includes Michael Jordan?

"I never asked Michael to be a playmaker," Jackson said. "That's the greatest player that I've ever had, that I could consider the greatest player in the game, and I never asked him to be a playmaker in those terms. I asked him to be playmaker when he was doubled or tripled. But Kobe has to set up the offense, to advance the ball, to read the defense, to make other players happy, and he's doing a great job of that."

Kobe was asked to run the offense and score when needed. His primary role was playmaker, and in the fourth, his scoring took precedence in tight games. Dudes willingness to turn into a gun for hire in the middle of games when he was being asked to set up players is what helped create the rift between he, Phil, & Diesel in the first place.
 

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Spurs is just a damn good team. They outplayed the Heat in the first half and it was just too much for the Heat to overcome in the 2nd half. shyt isn't rocket science.

The Heat narrowly escaped last year's finals and really should have lost game 6 and the championship. Bron would have gotten killed by everybody. That desperation 3 point shot Ray hit to force overtime have really changed the course of everyone's perception of Bron. People either really love him or want him to lose.

I agree with you on the first part. I'm not getting involved with the 2nd part tho. :heh:
 

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:what: You do realize Jordan had a season where he scored 37ppg and won defensive player of the year. You do realize Jordan won rings at 34 and 35 years old right, scoring 30ppg and winning Finals MVP. LeBron isn't doing anything any other great hasn't been asked to do at some point. Its the burden you carry if you want to win rings.

Dog,

I am sitting here trying to remember if back in the day, if MJ had put up the same numbers as Bron did during a finals game at home (resulting in a loss), would people try to shift blame on Pippen or Steve Kerr? Never in my life have I heard someone say, "Oh its ok, MJ/Kobe was tired".:pachaha:


Bron is a generational talent, but its amazing how much sympathy this man recieves
 

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In the half court? it is. He needs picks.

One on one his game is pretty weak if he doesn't have a mismatch
It isn't weak. He has amazing blow-by strength and speed. The problem with the Spurs is you have a great rim protector in Duncan waiting at the rim.

James has an array of ways to score around the basket and is a phenomenal finisher.
 

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Dog,

I am sitting here trying to remember if back in the day, if MJ had put up the same numbers as Bron did during a finals game at home (resulting in a loss), would people try to shift blame on Pippen or Steve Kerr? Never in my life have I heard someone say, "Oh its ok, MJ/Kobe was tired".:pachaha:


Bron is a generational talent, but its amazing how much sympathy this man recieves


Can't compare now to then, not nearly the same amount of media attention. Jordan did have bad games in the Finals, but there wasn't as much reactionary analysis as we have now.
 

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It isn't weak. He has amazing blow-by strength and speed. The problem with the Spurs is you have a great rim protector in Duncan waiting at the rim.

James has an array of ways to score around the basket and is a phenomenal finisher.
that's why you have Bosh who can be out in the perimeter to bring Duncan out but Spo wont utilize that.

The Heat is running a basic 4-1 set offense and motion which becomes broken and turns into a iso standoff.
 
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