LeBron's Over thinking is his biggest weakness. *Rational Discussion no hate needed*

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This was one of those weird games that LeBron has from time to time, but he's getting worn down too.

For starters, San Antonio is just a better team. They are going to win this series. LeBron's been doing the heavy lifting all season though while Wade sat out 30+ games. Too much burden was put on him for meaningless regular season games when he needed to be well rested for the playoffs.

There is not a chance in hell Miami would have made it out of the west this year. They are incredibly fortunate to play in the east.
 

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This was one of those weird games that LeBron has from time to time, but he's getting worn down too.

For starters, San Antonio is just a better team. They are going to win this series. LeBron's been doing the heavy lifting all season though while Wade sat out 30+ games. Too much burden was put on him for meaningless regular season games when he needed to be well rested for the playoffs.

There is not a chance in hell Miami would have made it out of the west this year. They are incredibly fortunate to play in the east.
man the internet not just the coli is filled with fortune tellers and time travelers :mindblown:
 
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What exactly is a traditional point guard if not a playmaker?
Look at the point guards the lakers had during the Phil jackson era. They didn't handle the ball that much, the triangle was set up with Kobe Shaq and any of there 3 pt shooters. The bulls same thing jordan , pippen and 3 pt shooter. Point guards in the triangle were considered an after thought since the shooting guard was handling the ball primarily and making the plays,
 

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Look at the point guards the lakers had during the Phil jackson era. They didn't handle the ball that much, the triangle was set up with Kobe Shaq and any of there 3 pt shooters. The bulls same thing jordan , pippen and 3 pt shooter. Point guards in the triangle were considered an after thought since the shooting guard was handling the ball primarily and making the plays,
Pippen was the primary ball handler and LA played their best when Gasol and Odom was their decision makers on the ball. Clearly the Kobe/Shaq years that wasn't the case but they had prime Shaq who is the greatest playoff player of all time.
 
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Pippen was the primary ball handler and LA played their best when Gasol and Odom was their decision makers on the ball. Clearly the Kobe/Shaq years that wasn't the case but they had prime Shaq who is the greatest playoff player of all time.

Pippen and Jordan used to alternate since they both have ball handling and post skills. Gasol was not the decision maker on the ball. There were times where he would but that was primarily Kobe's duty. And Shaq was great but having KObe as the closer when the triangle was abandoned shouldn't be overlooked.
 

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Look at the point guards the lakers had during the Phil jackson era. They didn't handle the ball that much, the triangle was set up with Kobe Shaq and any of there 3 pt shooters. The bulls same thing jordan , pippen and 3 pt shooter. Point guards in the triangle were considered an after thought since the shooting guard was handling the ball primarily and making the plays,


The Shaq/Kobe Lakers ran the offense through Shaq, the "others" got shots off his double teams. Kobe's main job was to score. The Kobe/Gasol Lakers he had more "playmaking" duties, but still mainly responsible for scoring especially late.

On this Heat squad, Ray, Lewis, Bosh etc. get most of their looks through Lebron and his ability to survey the floor and find shooters. That's why the offense goes into the tank when he's not on the court. None of those guys can consistently get their own shot. Well, Bosh can he just doesn't for some reason.:ld:
 

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People really need to watch how the Spurs change their system from a slow tempo, post heavy, slashing heavy offense with great defense to a PnR, ball movement and player movement offense as Tim Duncan aged. Beautiful and amazing.

The offensive options they have is staggering. Shooters for days, driving Parker and Ginobili, passing bigs in Diaw and Splitter, big fundamental low post game. If the shots are falling, da fukk can you do? Let's say the Spurs win this year.... Yo Duncan really coulda had his 6th ring if they had just held on for a few seconds last year.
 
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The Shaq/Kobe Lakers ran the offense through Shaq, the "others" got shots off his double teams. Kobe's main job was to score. The Kobe/Gasol Lakers he had more "playmaking" duties, but still mainly responsible for scoring especially late.

On this Heat squad, Ray, Lewis, Bosh etc. get most of their looks through Lebron and his ability to survey the floor and find shooters. That's why the offense goes into the tank when he's not on the court. None of those guys can consistently get their own shot. Well, Bosh can he just doesn't for some reason.:ld:
They gotta let bosh get busy. Can't have him sitting on the outside all game like he's turkoglu .:dahell:
 

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Pippen and Jordan used to alternate since they both have ball handling and post skills. Gasol was not the decision maker on the ball. There were times where he would but that was primarily Kobe's duty. And Shaq was great but having KObe as the closer when the triangle was abandoned shouldn't be overlooked.
While Kobe clearly matter, that team wasn't winning anything without Shaq. His dominance in the playoffs was something no one has touched since or before.

Pippen was their primary ball handler, that didn't mean MJ didn't have high usage but the offense generally started with Pip even if it ended more times than not with MJ. You better look at the adv numbers, a lot of LA possessions had Odom and Gasol making decisions at vast rates considering their usage. Kobe did have the ball quite often which I agree.
 

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Kinda reminds me of the basketball peyton manning with the overthinking(albeit Lebron is much more successful). I think his biggest issue tonight is that he stopped shooting the J and relied to much on driving in the ball when the Spurs were clogging up the lane. Usually you want him to drive in more and shoot less but his J has been on point so far this series and it was the x factor in why they closed out the series last year and it was the x factor of what put them in a comfortable position to win the game in game 2 of this season.
. Lebron didn't over think his shot. It was Leonard who took away his spacing that Lebron needed to comfortably release the ball in good form. Lebron couldn't even post against Leonard nor beat him to the bucket. It is hard to score successfully when a defender is sticking tight on you
 

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The offensive options they have is staggering. Shooters for days, driving Parker and Ginobili, passing bigs in Diaw and Splitter, big fundamental low post game. If the shots are falling, da fukk can you do? Let's say the Spurs win this year.... Yo Duncan really coulda had his 6th ring if they had just held on for a few seconds last year.
It's like the advance version of the Hawks with better players. Probably why they are the advanced version of the Hawks. Their ball movement is crazy good but their players also make the right reads more times than not and consistently. That talent with that system. Coach Bud really ringlead them boys with that system he created with Pop. That shyt is like Duke's system on steroids.

Diaw can get even better next year. Look at the improvement they got from him and Patty Mills.
 
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While Kobe clearly matter, that team wasn't winning anything without Shaq. His dominance in the playoffs was something no one has touched since or before.

Pippen was their primary ball handler, that didn't mean MJ didn't have high usage but the offense generally started with Pip even if it ended more times than not with MJ. You better look at the adv numbers, a lot of LA possessions had Odom and Gasol making decisions at vast rates considering their usage. Kobe did have the ball quite often which I agree.

Of course they wouldn't have won without Shaq , but they needed kobe just as much when it was crunch time. Especially in them western conference series.. They were the perfect duo .
 

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man the internet not just the coli is filled with fortune tellers and time travelers :mindblown:
Breh, they're the better team and Miami is gassed. Going to four straight Finals takes its toll. San Antonio has whipped them twice and the game Miami won was a close one where LeBron went nuts.
 
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