LeBron's Over thinking is his biggest weakness. *Rational Discussion no hate needed*

[THE MACHINE]

I get that but that doesn't mean he's exerting more effort than them. Like the fact that he's his teams best rebounder and a better rebounder than MJ and Kobe is not because he exerts more effort than them. I'd think it has something to do with him playing SF and being 40 pounds heavier than them. Like I said lebron does do a lot, but he's not doing any more effort wise than his successors . Oh and lebron is a rim protector?

Right, this dude is on the low block on free throws when Kobe and Mike are at half court. So he is gifted a board or two every game from there but I'm supposed to believe he is hustling like Rodman for his

Not to mention he has been to 5 finals and doesn't have a 40 point game yet, but he has the scoring burden of Mike

 

[duckbutta]

this whole MIA vs Western conference bullshyt needs to stop.
Seriously, besides the Spurs teamball, what team in the Western conference has the personnel to beat MIA in a 7 game series? The Clippers? Memphis? Portland? Houston? Dallas? Maybe OKC. Your ass wouldnt even put money on any of those teams to beat MiA.
Let be real here, in the last 3 years, its being OKC and Spurs. OKC was unfortunate to lose Russ and Memphis sneaked in through that backdoor only to be swept in the WCF.

Just some atrocious posting here...

Could Miami beat one of these teams in one 7 game series...yup...

Could Miami have played the Spurs schedule to get here...beating Dallas, Portland, and OKC...hell no...they might not have even beating Dallas...

Could they have played OKC schedule to get to the Finals...Memphis...Clips...Spurs...

OKC literally played 3 of the top 7 teams in the NBA...Memphis had a top 7 record after Gasol came back from injury...

Miami is out here playing the Bobcats and the Nets...come on...Playing the Bobcats who's best player got hurt and a Nets team who's superstar point guard put up a smooth 0 points in a game and who's best post player put up a 2 point game...

Then back doored that playing a team that almost lost to a Hawks team without it's best player...

It's not the Heats fault the east is so bad...but these dudes would be food in the west...

It's real easy to rest wade for dam near half the season when you playing the bucks and 76ers every other night...if they were out west doing that they'd be playing Memphis and Portland every other night...Miami couldn't beat either one of those teams consistently without wade in the line up

 

[bl2k8]

Just some atrocious posting here...

Could Miami beat one of these teams in one 7 game series...yup...

Could Miami have played the Spurs schedule to get here...beating Dallas, Portland, and OKC...hell no...they might not have even beating Dallas...

Could they have played OKC schedule to get to the Finals...Memphis...Clips...Spurs...

OKC literally played 3 of the top 7 teams in the NBA...Memphis had a top 7 record after Gasol came back from injury...

Miami is out here playing the Bobcats and the Nets...come on...Playing the Bobcats who's best player got hurt and a Nets team who's superstar point guard put up a smooth 0 points in a game and who's best post player put up a 2 point game...

Then back doored that playing a team that almost lost to a Hawks team without it's best player...

It's not the Heats fault the east is so bad...but these dudes would be food in the west...

It's real easy to rest wade for dam near half the season when you playing the bucks and 76ers every other night...if they were out west doing that they'd be playing Memphis and Portland every other night...Miami couldn't beat either one of those teams consistently without wade in the line up

Lol exactly. People bringing up the heats record vs the west when they only play them twice a year compared to four times in a year. You play a team once in December and then might not play them again until late march.

 

[CarltonJunior]

On some "he needs help" like he is still in Cleveland. With the firepower on that team, they should be putting up 105-110 points nightly. Outside of Kawhi, the Spurs don't have any great defenders. The big 3 combined for 30 shots last night

If he decided to dominate a game or two per series and put up 25 shots, it would take some pressure off of the role players. They would only need one or 2 great games per series instead of four. That's the only thing wrong with making the "right basketball play" every time. He holds the ball at the elbow for 9 seconds and then either turns it over trying to be the one to get the assist, or forces a tough shot because he let the defense get set for so long. If the right basketball play doesn't present itself within the flow of the offense, he needs to become the worlds best player that he is and dominate that possession.

Read my mind. I was just going to post this

 

[Teko]

Playing The Spurs/OKC in The Finals is completely different than playing an 82 game season in The West and going through the playoffs.

Yeah. The West or the NBA has very few teams that can beat MIA. They might be a bit decent but the results would be the same. MIA owns all the teams in the West. In fact, if they had to play them more, they'd take the games much more seriously and be at a much higher level come the playoffs.

 

[Teko]

Just some atrocious posting here...

Could Miami beat one of these teams in one 7 game series...yup...

Could Miami have played the Spurs schedule to get here...beating Dallas, Portland, and OKC...hell no...they might not have even beating Dallas...

Could they have played OKC schedule to get to the Finals...Memphis...Clips...Spurs...

OKC literally played 3 of the top 7 teams in the NBA...Memphis had a top 7 record after Gasol came back from injury...

Miami is out here playing the Bobcats and the Nets...come on...Playing the Bobcats who's best player got hurt and a Nets team who's superstar point guard put up a smooth 0 points in a game and who's best post player put up a 2 point game...

Then back doored that playing a team that almost lost to a Hawks team without it's best player...

It's not the Heats fault the east is so bad...but these dudes would be food in the west...

It's real easy to rest wade for dam near half the season when you playing the bucks and 76ers every other night...if they were out west doing that they'd be playing Memphis and Portland every other night...Miami couldn't beat either one of those teams consistently without wade in the line up

Why would they be food in the West when they beat West teams consistently at half gear? If OKC can consistently hammer those teams, why wouldn't MIA be in a position to do the same? How many players in the West would you say are better than Bron, Wade or Bosh?

 

[The War Report]

Playing the west and playing in the west is two different things. How many times I gotta tell y'all?

 

[360dagod]

Yeah. The West or the NBA has very few teams that can beat MIA. They might be a bit decent but the results would be the same. MIA owns all the teams in the West. In fact, if they had to play them more, they'd take the games much more seriously and be at a much higher level come the playoffs.

this is bullshyt.....

Your telling me the results would be the same with a declining Wade and teams that can exploit their weaknesses on a daily basis??

 

[Teko]

this is bullshyt.....

Your telling me the results would be the same with a declining Wade and teams that can exploit their weaknesses on a daily basis??

Look at the facts...How many SGs are better than Wade in the NBA? Wade is declining when you want go with the narrative that the East is weak but very strong when you want to go with the narrative that the type of players that MIA has makes the NBA uncompetitive, which one is it?
If Curry can take GS to the second round and or Memphis can get to the WCF, what could possibly stand on MIA's way? The team is notorious for playing down to its competition but make no mistake about how strong it is. Indiana was built to exploit the Heat's weakness, the Bulls on paper can exploit the Heat's weakness, the Nets hadthe offensive firepower to sweep the Heat in the regular season but we all know how it all turned out.

Playing the west and playing in the west is two different things. How many times I gotta tell y'all?

Of course its different but you nikkas make it sound like MIA would struggle when only 1 team in the West can stack up against them.
How things play out is like a game of chess between the different opponents.

 

[360dagod]

Look at the facts...How many SGs are better than Wade in the NBA? Wade is declining when you want go with the narrative that the East is weak but very strong when you want to go with the narrative that the type of players that MIA has makes the NBA uncompetitive, which one is it?
If Curry can take GS to the second round and or Memphis can get to the WCF, what could possibly stand on MIA's way? The team is notorious for playing down to its competition but make no mistake about how strong it is. Indiana was built to exploit the Heat's weakness, the Bulls on paper can exploit the Heat's weakness, the Nets hadthe offensive firepower to sweep the Heat in the regular season but we all know how it all turned out.

Of course its different but you nikkas make it sound like MIA would struggle when only 1 team in the West can stack up against them.
How things play out is like a game of chess between the different opponents.

No one is denying how good the Heat team is....

Your not being honest if you think they wouldn't have a tougher time in the west...

You making it seem like nikkas said they would struggle for a playoff spot

 

[keepemup]

This kind of excuse making is really strange and borders on pathetic.

 

[threattonature]

Look at the facts...How many SGs are better than Wade in the NBA? Wade is declining when you want go with the narrative that the East is weak but very strong when you want to go with the narrative that the type of players that MIA has makes the NBA uncompetitive, which one is it?
If Curry can take GS to the second round and or Memphis can get to the WCF, what could possibly stand on MIA's way? The team is notorious for playing down to its competition but make no mistake about how strong it is. Indiana was built to exploit the Heat's weakness, the Bulls on paper can exploit the Heat's weakness, the Nets hadthe offensive firepower to sweep the Heat in the regular season but we all know how it all turned out.

Of course its different but you nikkas make it sound like MIA would struggle when only 1 team in the West can stack up against them.
How things play out is like a game of chess between the different opponents.

Nobody is denying the Heat's talent. What everybody is pointing out is that they would have to bring it on a lot more nights than they had to in the East. They wouldn't be able to comfortably rest Wade for nearly as many games not just out of fear of losing, but fear of giving up playoff position. Heat damn near went .500 the second half of the season and didn't give a fukk because they knew the lowest they could fall was to second because the East was so bad. In the West you have a bad week and can drop four playoff spots. By needing to play your full cast for more games in tighter contests more often opens the door for more injuries and more wear and tear.

 

[FTBS]

They don't have a rim protector. Period. It's possible to play without having one. Just because no one else fills that role doesn't mean it's by fault LeBrons role. And lebron is there best defender but let's not act like Battier for the better part of three years haven't been playing the other teams best wing player. Kobe was the best wing defender on many Laker teams. Regardless that doesn't mean he exerts more effort than anyone ever.

We have already established that hyperbole is par for the course and has been used for Kobe and others so I'm not sure why you keep belaboring this piece. It's only a problem when Bron is getting his?

The lack of a rim protector puts even more strain on your perimeter defense and yes that role often falls into Lebron's lap by default...far more than any other perimeter great on a championship team.

 

[threattonature]

As far as this thread it is dead on. You can tell Pop realizes this too which is why he constantly tries to keep switching up his looks on Lebron. He treats him like a great QB because he knows if he sees the same one too often he's going to slice it up. So he'll switch up who's guarding him, how they are treating him after picks, who they rotate off of when sending help, if they send help at all.

I think that's why Pop is comfortable switching a Duncan, or Splitter, or Diaw onto him at times just to throw him off or have Lebron regroup and wondering what the hell is going on.

 

[FTBS]

As far as this thread it is dead on. You can tell Pop realizes this too which is why he constantly tries to keep switching up his looks on Lebron. He treats him like a great QB because he knows if he sees the same one too often he's going to slice it up. So he'll switch up who's guarding him, how they are treating him after picks, who they rotate off of when sending help, if they send help at all.

I think that's why Pop is comfortable switching a Duncan, or Splitter, or Diaw onto him at times just to throw him off or have Lebron regroup and wondering what the hell is going on.

Bron sliced him up for 5 straight Finals games until the other night and was putting in work in last game before the Spurs entered the cheat code. The problem is that he's the only one who is consistently putting in work. With the defense focused on Bron like it is and them being "max" players and Bron being as unselfish as he is Wade and Bosh should be ing. Funny how nobody questions if they are "overthinking" after an L or a lackluster effort.