Let me find out Eminem is low key underated as a producer "The Coli told me he was trash"

[Awesome Wells]

That’s the thing. His production fit who he was as an artist. I mean, he usually produced for other cats tracks when he was featured so he has never been a producer shopping beats & shyt. All things considered I think it is dope he would produce his own joints with his signature sound. Not bangers on their own right but just fit his style.

Yeah, I like when MC's self-produce. That's always dope to me.

I think Em's sound just kinda kept his tracks in a very average space. They definitely fit his style, but I don’t ever really think about him as being a great producer. I remember when I was expecting Dre to do a lot of his production, and was mad disappointed to see him doing most of the beats, lol. He's okay behind the boards, but he never really stood out to me as a producer.

 

[Heavy_Handz]

Yeah, I like when MC's self-produce. That's always dope to me.

I think Em's sound just kinda kept his tracks in a very average space. They definitely fit his style, but I don’t ever really think about him as being a great producer. I remember when I was expecting Dre to do a lot of his production, and was mad disappointed to see him doing most of the beats, lol. He's okay behind the boards, but he never really stood out to me as a producer.

Yeah, I agree with you. Early on in his career I understood him producing his own tracks and he had that rare ability to create music that was completely signature & I do think some of the corniness was intentional. I’m with you in that as his career progressed and I guess he sort of moved away from that Slim Shady persona, I really wanted to hear him just as an MC just spitting over other producers beats like Alchemist. He was tour DJ for Eminem how the hell wasn’t he working with Em on a larger scale?

 

[Mastamimd]

Em didn’t produce Renegade, just added strings like other beats mentioned in this thread. DJ Head produced it and didn’t get proper credit/payment and that’s a big reason why he stopped DJing for Em and was replaced by Green Lantern

Makes sense

 

[MasterThought]

I like that Tupac & Biggie "Runnin" song and maybe 2-3 others but outside of that Eminem was straight up trash as a producer

 

[Awesome Wells]

Em didn’t produce Renegade, just added strings like other beats mentioned in this thread. DJ Head produced it and didn’t get proper credit/payment and that’s a big reason why he stopped DJing for Em and was replaced by Green Lantern

They co-produced Renegade. Head did the drums, Em did everything else on the beat.

 

[Drake's Tan]

Let me find out the coli don't know what they talking about as usual

Not at all.

Renegade and Many Men were great.

Had some decent ones (Runnin', the song with Game) and a lot of

Also his sound is very 1 dimensional and repetitive.

He was okay as a producer but not underrated at all.

 

[Heavy_Handz]

They co-produced Renegade. Head did the drums, Em did everything else on the beat.

Yea, let’s not give credit to that beat to the dude who just did the drums just cause he ain’t Eminem

 

[feelosofer]

That video weirdly didn't include any D12 stuff and those were some of Ems best beats. With that said. Em isn't a great producer BUT he was never as bad as the Coli made him out to be either.

 

[BEN23]

The audacity to list "the cross" by Nas as a good song. That might be nas' worst fukking beat he ever rhymed over. I HATE that song.

I remember before it came out my boy was in the studio with nas and swizz listening to songs and he said yo nas got this crazy record produced by em..shyt is the best shyt he heard....when the shyt cam out everyone was like the joint was trash...and he said ill never trust studio monitors again...they make anything sound good lol

 

[DaKidFromNoWhere]

CACS on that WS app trying to whitewash Hip Hop I see
Giving Em credit for some songs he didn't produce

 

[Left.A1]

I like American Psycho too, dope piano beat



But still all these songs have co-producers so its hard to tell what Em contributed to them if anything. He's also been making music for over 20 years so there's gonna be some good beats in there but I still think the bad outweighs the good by a lot.

This was a hard ass beat …would have loved to hear someone like Prodigy spit over this

 

[Whips-n-Chains]

His beats were trash. The beats he pricked from other producers were mostly trash too

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

This all boils down to what you think producing is vs what producing actually is....

Most of the top producers will say that beat making is one thing and production is another. Sending in a beat and doing nothing else does not make you a producer. Meanwhile Dr. Dre himself doesn't sit down and make beats on a machine like a 9th wonder. And 9th wonder will sometimes produce a song and other times just send a beat.. Kayne was "ghost producing" for No ID and now Kanye barely touches the machines

If you aren't in the studio with the artist when it's being recorded, then you're pretty much just the beat maker. You didn't go in and help PRODUCE a full song. Some of that isn't even about the beat. If you telling Jay to go back and do this and that, you a producing. If you telling the engineer to turn that up and that down, you are producing. If you adding elements to fit the verses and mood of the lyrics, you are producing

So yes, Em produced these beats. He just didn't make them himself

 

[Redwing80]

He’s on the credits but he’s one of like 3 producers on there so there ain’t no telling what he actually did

That Rakim song isn't produced by Em. He did more than add strings to "Many Men". Again, ya'll equate making a beat to producing a song, which is in error. Nas had the original "Many Men" beat first and even made a song with it, but it is unreleased. That beat possibly sounds different than what we hear with 50.

There's a reason those strings are added and why Eminem even did anything to the beat in the first place. Production is marrying the artist with the music and whatever needs to be done to accomplish that (adding, subtracting, adjusting the volume on instruments) is a part of that process even if it crosses over into engineering.

50 had Many Men before he even met Em. There was an interview somewhere whey they said all he did was add strings or the singing bit at the end

 

[Awesome Wells]

Meanwhile Dr. Dre himself doesn't sit down and make beats on a machine like a 9th wonder.

Not true, at all.

Dre still sits at the MPC and bangs out beats. Dude just had a studio full of legends last year, (Erick Sermon, Diamond D, Lord Finesse, Battlecat, etc.) And was giving a masterclass on how he likes to program drums and assign certain pads to sounds. He never stopped being hands-on with his production. Even when he brought in live players. He's always on the machine.