lets be real..TEAM USA IS LEBRON TEAM..

[Gravity]

If you can't watch the late 2nd half and objectively observe that Kobe had a hand in literally almost EVERY point scored down the stretch, you're just trolling. He took over that game! When things got tight and the game was in doubt, he willed the team across the finish line. That's not taking anything away from the tournament that D-Wade had. I thought he was definitely the best player through the Olympics, but if not for Kobe, he would be the best player through the Olympics WITH A SILVER MEDAL.

That's what most people always remember about that team, last night they said no less than 10 times during the broadcast. How Bean took over that game and was the biggest part in winning the gold medal. So yeah, fair or not, I do think that was his team in 2008.


Edited: There are no quarters in Olympic basketball, 2 halves.

You are taking away from the other players with the way that you're spinning that gold medal game though. Yes Kobe got hot down the stretch and led the team to the finish line, but to act as if they wouldn't have won without Kobe is an insult to all of those guys. You're being disingenuous man.

 

[Goatpoacher]

Olympics gonna be Lebron vs Kobe and they on a same team...wtf

Wouldn't be the first time Kobe tried to freeze out a teammate for petty reasons.

 

[holidayinn21]

now 08 was bron's team?

revisionism at its finest.

 

[Jram]

They were all on the floor and they all deferred! That's the point, they were all available to make plays, but they gave the ball to Kobe to make those plays.

Did they defer because they knew Kobe was the alpha amongst a bunch of Alpha's, or did they just find a flow through one of their stars in ONE quarter.

I think it's really incomplete and unfair to jump to that conclusion. Was that the case every game? No. This particular game flowed one way. Your saying they would have got a silver medal if Kobe didn't step up, but then you don't mention they wouldn't have any medal if Wade or someone else didn't step up in prior games. It was one quarter

 

[verbaltelekinesis]

Did they defer because they knew Kobe was the alpha amongst a bunch of Alpha's, or did they just find a flow through one of their stars in ONE quarter.

I think it's really incomplete and unfair to jump to that conclusion. Was that the case every game? No. This particular game flowed one way. Your saying they would have got a silver medal if Kobe didn't step up, but then you don't mention they wouldn't have any medal if Wade or someone else didn't step up in prior games. It was one quarter

The problem with your logic is that those other game weren't anywhere near close! The game situation and circumstances dictate a lot of what and why people say that Kobe won team USA the Gold Medal. He scored 13 points and had 2 assists in the 4th quarter. When it was a 2 point game, he scored 5 points assisted on a Deron Williams 3 and assisted on a D12 dunk. He accounted for 10 points in that span.

 

[Jram]

The problem with your logic is that those other game weren't anywhere near close! The game situation and circumstances dictate a lot of what and why people say that Kobe won team USA the Gold Medal. He scored 13 points and had 2 assists in the 4th quarter. When it was a 2 point game, he scored 5 points assisted on a Deron Williams 3 and assisted on a D12 dunk. He accounted for 10 points in that span.

Than we have to agree to disagree. I'm not with making a conclusion based on such a miniature sample size of a player having one big quarter.

I'll go with the body of work in the Olympics, not those last ten minutes.

 

[calh45]

I didn't quote you because I didn't feel like going back through the thread to find who posted what... lol at someone being scared of another individual on an anonymous internet message board

smh the difference is that Bron and Wade outperformed him for the WHOLE olympics, while Pau outperformed him for a game (or the series, depending on who you ask)... how is that the same thing?




typical Kobe stan logic as follows:

- enter thread with the assertion that Kobe is the GOAT and stan him by any means

- once logic and common sense states otherwise, think outside the box for bullshyt intangible justifications

- commence "see, nah, what y'all don't understand is that (insert bullshyt intangible justification here)" posts

- repeat those ludicrous posts over and over hoping you say it enough to where someone actually starts to believe that retarded ass logic

You do realize the WHOLE olympics is only 8 games, right? Essentially the length of a series and yes Pau did outperform Kobe that entire series. It was still Kobe's team. Performance doesn't dictate leadership especially when the difference of Bron vs Kobe vs Wade's performance only being 1 point cause I don't consider that truly outperforming someone.

You typed all that Kobe stan logic bullshyt for no reason. I don't do stanning.

 

[IGSaint12]

Olympics gonna be Lebron vs Kobe and they on a same team...wtf

It's because these damn bron stans want to pump up bron while dissing kobe.

Yet they don't bring up how lebron fukking LOST in 2004.

 

[Bilz]

smh at yall trying to say that 08 olympic squad wasn't Bean's team. When things got rough and the Spainards cut it to what was it 2? That whole Olympic squad looked at and gave the ball to Kobe to takeover and win it for them. Kobe putting his squad on his back ended any doubt who the best player in the world was at that time. The biggest question was leading up to to Gold medal game was if things got rough and it was close, who was gonna be THE guy for the US squad. All those stats don't mean shyt, the Gold medal finale is the most important game of the Olympics in basketball, and Bean had a hand in every shot made or assisted in those shots being made in cruch time.

So in other words, USA was already ahead when Kobe was summoned? The use of the baseball term "closer" for basketball players is interesting. In baseball, a closer spends most of the game doing nothing while his teammates are in charge of taking a lead. When the lead is kept late in the game, the closer enters to ensure the lead is preserved. You seem to be saying that's what Kobe did in this game so I ask you this, are the Yankees Mariano Rivera's team?

 

[Bilz]

fukk you Bilz!!!

And not because I have no retort, but because you're playing stupid right now and not willing to acknowledge the HUGE differences in what you're arguing.

I fully acknowledge those differences but your position is that those final moments or pendulum swings affect the score or result more than the earlier ones and the players that influence them are more important or valuable.

 

[muzikfrk75]

Who's in the middle?

 

[cloudkicker]

SUMMARY GP-GS Min FG% 3PT% FT% R/G A/G STL BLK PTS/G
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09 Wade, Dwyane........ 8-0 18.8 .671 .471 .634 4.0 1.9 18 1 16.0
06 James, LeBron....... 8-8 24.8 .602 .464 .458 5.3 3.8 19 8 15.5
10 Bryant, Kobe........ 8-8 23.5 .462 .321 .583 2.8 2.1 9 4 15.0
15 Anthony, Carmelo.... 8-8 19.1 .422 .378 .828 4.3 0.4 8 2 11.5
11 Howard, Dwight...... 8-8 16.1 .745 .000 .459 5.8 0.5 5 7 10.9
12 Bosh, Chris......... 8-0 17.3 .774 .000 .862 6.1 0.3 2 6 9.1
13 Paul, Chris......... 8-0 21.9 .500 .286 .917 3.6 4.1 18 0 8.0
07 Williams, Deron..... 8-0 19.0 .442 .375 .900 2.3 2.8 6 0 8.0
14 Prince, Tayshaun.... 8-0 11.0 .591 .545 .500 1.9 0.3 3 1 4.3
04 Boozer, Carlos...... 8-0 6.0 .556 .000 .750 1.9 0.3 2 0 3.3
08 Redd, Michael....... 8-0 9.1 .323 .278 .000 1.1 0.5 2 0 3.1
05 Kidd, Jason......... 8-8 13.5 .857 .500 .000 2.6 2.0 5 2 1.6

its apparant you didnt watch the games. neg vote

 

[PTBG]

So in other words, USA was already ahead when Kobe was summoned? The use of the baseball term "closer" for basketball players is interesting. In baseball, a closer spends most of the game doing nothing while his teammates are in charge of taking a lead. When the lead is kept late in the game, the closer enters to ensure the lead is preserved. You seem to be saying that's what Kobe did in this game so I ask you this, are the Yankees Mariano Rivera's team?

Breh, the Spainards were catching up and everyone on that US squad started shytting themselves and almost wet the bed and almost blew the gold medal game. Charles Barkley was the leading scorer of the Dream Team, does that mean that he was the best player on the squad or THE man on the team? SMH a closer is much different in basketball than it is in baseball. Kobe was THE best man on man defender on that 08 team and was there perimeter defensive specialist for that team. Just cuhz a players scores more points on a team, does not mean he is the best player on the squad

 

[holidayinn21]

Who's in the middle?

it looks like both of them are.

 

[Bilz]

Breh, the Spainards were catching up and everyone on that US squad started shytting themselves and almost wet the bed and almost blew the gold medal game. Charles Barkley was the leading scorer of the Dream Team, does that mean that he was the best player on the squad or THE man on the team? SMH a closer is much different in basketball than it is in baseball. Kobe was THE best man on man defender on that 08 team and was there perimeter defensive specialist for that team. Just cuhz a players scores more points on a team, does not mean he is the best player on the squad

Kobe was a gambling motherfukker on defense. For all of the gambling he was doing, it's hilarious that Wade and LeBron killed him so badly in steals and blocks.

If scoring the most points doesn't make a player the best, then why would scoring points in the last part of the last game make a player the best? This whole concept of whose team it is, who the closer is, etc is just a bunch of fabricated nonsense.