Lets be real the referndum on Melo is completely racist

[FTBS]

this is stupid....Melo has performed well and held up his end of the bargain in the playoffs. Romo has laid egg after egg in the post season when it comes to his personal performance.

So we're gunna hold it against Melo that his teams have been inferior? Its melo's fault that Amare has been out of the playoffs three years in a row? Outside of one or two series that he has lost in the first round, his teams were dramatically undermanned. Its these childish and unthinking arguments, combined with racially charged barbs thrown his way about him being a thug, and unintelligent, etc which rightly makes people believe that race is controlling the abject negativity against Melo.

Bron and MJ and TMac before him held up their end and caught shyt so what's new? Why are nikkas acting like this is new. If you wanna be all the way real he has gotten off pretty easy...even now. You don't see every close loss used to call a referendum on his l egacy. Others have done more (teamwise and individually) and caught more shyt and I didn't here anything about race for them.

 

[Big Boss]

Dirk 5 years ago shot 20 shots a game 8 rebounds 2.4 assists probably played a lick of defense.

And dirk iso's

Anybody ever heard dirk being called selfish?

I'm not even trying to make a race point, cause its not racist. Some of the criticism is true, most of it is ridiculous though.

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nope but they called him a choker until he won a ring.

 

[boskey]

When did CP3 turn white?

I had to read your initial post like 4 times cuz I couldn't understand what his point was.

And now suddenly CP3 is a house nikka. Why? Cuz it explains why racists hate Melo

 

[No_bammer_weed]

Bron and MJ and TMac before him held up their end and caught shyt so what's new? Why are nikkas acting like this is new. If you wanna be all the way real he has gotten off pretty easy...even now. You don't see every close loss used to call a referendum on his l egacy. Others have done more (teamwise and individually) and caught more shyt and I didn't here anything about race for them.

Im not understanding how you're invalidating what im saying. In many ways the criticism and commentary against Bron and MJ was very much racial (especially when bron dipped for miami), but those racial feelings were roused in different ways. Melo has a reputation as being far more "street" than those other players, so for Melo its much easier to paint him with the racial narratives commonly used to disparage black men, and I think that has been the case for the most part.

Racism isnt a consistent and linear deal, but with Melo it seems like the media are trying to make him into a newer version of A.I, complete with all of the b.s stereotypes.

I think a better comparison is Melo vs. Kevin Love. Kevin puts up empty stats, hasnt sniffed a playoff series, quit on his team, and has open run-ins with management and coaches, and yet hes still treated as an All-American, hard working, high IQ, winner and boy next door. Thats the difference.

 

[FTBS]

I had to read your initial post like 4 times cuz I couldn't understand what his point was.

And now suddenly CP3 is a house nikka. Why? Cuz it explains why racists hate Melo

Exactly. nikkas will move heavens and earth to defend nikkas they like. Lebron is the safest negro this side of Wayne Brady and he caught more shyt in a summer than Melo has in his life.

 

[23Barrettcity]

Oh the irony of u talking about people making shyt up about Melo in the same post you made shyt up about me .

I actually said its stupid and myopic. What were you reading? My only point is that Melo ain't the first or last to be criticized for such things and certainly hasn't gotten it the worst or anywhere near it. And to try to attach race to it is just

Whats in Melos profile as compared to cp3? How is cp3 described as opposed to melo ? Why does cp3 get a pass for forcing a trade ? Melo still has that brought up to this day why is it ok to call melo a diva and selfish ball hog? Based off of what ? What in Melos past say these things ? Not team Mates or coaches yet that's a ok narrative to make . What makes cp3 a nice guy like they say in profiles about him and melo not these things ? His style of play ? Why was the decision hate race based or the Donovan criticism race based ? You openly dismissed any racist views towards melo and make it seem like its all performance based yet he has more succes than cp3 the supposed better player melo does the dirty work and bangs down low , cp3 flops and complains to refs all day yet he's not viewed negatively at all .

I had to read your initial post like 4 times cuz I couldn't understand what his point was.

And now suddenly CP3 is a house nikka. Why? Cuz it explains why racists hate Melo

Really ? What success has cp3 had to warrant not getting the same amount if criticism as melo he hasn't even been as far as melo yet he's viewed as a top 4 player . Why do they discuss Melos touches to pass ratio while no one brings up the friction that supposedly Blake and Jordan felt toward cp3 yet melo is called a bad teammate

 

[23Barrettcity]

Im not understanding how you're invalidating what im saying. In many ways the criticism and commentary against Bron and MJ was very much racial (especially when bron dipped for miami), but those racial feelings were roused in different ways. Melo has a reputation as being far more "street" than those other players, so for Melo its much easier to paint him with the racial narratives commonly used to disparage black men, and I think that has been the case for the most part.

Racism isnt a consistent and linear deal, but with Melo it seems like the media are trying to make him into a newer version of A.I, complete with all of the b.s stereotypes.

I think a better comparison is Melo vs. Kevin Love. Kevin puts up empty stats, hasnt sniffed a playoff series, quit on his team, and has open run-ins with management and coaches, and yet hes still treated as an All-American, hard working, high IQ, winner and boy next door. Thats the difference.

I know last year he was ranked higher than melo on the player list due to accomplishing nothing nicca had no pressure at all and could pursue those stats . It kills me how people say melo would be happy scoring 50 and losing as long as he gets his .what is this based on ? Melo is always in the playoffs every season of his career yet apparently he's a loser and talked about as if he's monta Ellis ( who in interviews sounds like a real competitor I'm just speaking on his criticism )

Exactly. nikkas will move heavens and earth to defend nikkas they like. Lebron is the safest negro this side of Wayne Brady and he caught more shyt in a summer than Melo has in his life.

Bron hate was partially racial but he also did the decision and had a victory party before they even played a game , he went on twitter saying stuff about taking notes and how'd he get revenge On people . You don't see how that would rub a bunch of fan bases wrong ? Not to mention he turned down big basketball cities .

 

[ChemicalBk]

Knicks Fans Aint Like Most Of The Coli Who Have Their Individual Little Heros And Daddy Worship Issues

Melo Could Be 0-40 With 0 Points And I Could Give A shyt As Long As The Knicks Won The Game

 

[FTBS]

Im not understanding how you're invalidating what im saying. In many ways the criticism and commentary against Bron and MJ was very much racial (especially when bron dipped for miami), but those racial feelings were roused in different ways. Melo has a reputation as being far more "street" than those other players, so for Melo its much easier to paint him with the racial narratives commonly used to disparage black men, and I think that has been the case for the most part.

Racism isnt a consistent and linear deal, but with Melo it seems like the media are trying to make him into a newer version of A.I, complete with all of the b.s stereotypes.

I think a better comparison is Melo vs. Kevin Love. Kevin puts up empty stats, hasnt sniffed a playoff series, quit on his team, and has open run-ins with management and coaches, and yet hes still treated as an All-American, hard working, high IQ, winner and boy next door. Thats the difference.

at the Melo "street" shyt. I haven't heard shyt about Melo and the streets since the "stop snitching" shyt a decade ago. To compare him to AI is just . AI caught heat early in his career and for making that rap song early last decade however he was also cast as a "plucky underdog with so much heart he could single-handedly carry a squad to the Finals". You didn't hear too much about the fact that he NEVER made it out of the first round after that. The only nikkas over AI in terms of love at his peak were Shaq and Kobe.

You made a great point with K. Love and Nash could be thrown in there too. No doubt race plays a part in that. However for nikkas to be throwing out Chris Paul aka another black man as proof of Melo being treated unfairly because of race is just . That said I doubt that K. Love could make it to year 10 with only 1 trip past the first round and not catch any heat. Beyond that let's not act like that is the predominant narrative around Melo like it has been for many other before him. Like I said before you aren't seeing breakdowns and wall to wall coverage of his every fukk up or close loss.

 

[FTBS]

Whats in Melos profile as compared to cp3? How is cp3 described as opposed to melo ? Why does cp3 get a pass for forcing a trade ? Melo still has that brought up to this day why is it ok to call melo a diva and selfish ball hog? Based off of what ? What in Melos past say these things ? Not team Mates or coaches yet that's a ok narrative to make . What makes cp3 a nice guy like they say in profiles about him and melo not these things ? His style of play ? Why was the decision hate race based or the Donovan criticism race based ? You openly dismissed any racist views towards melo and make it seem like its all performance based yet he has more succes than cp3 the supposed better player melo does the dirty work and bangs down low , cp3 flops and complains to refs all day yet he's not viewed negatively at all .

What part of CP3 is black do you not understand? If you wanna talk about why CP3 doesn't take more heat that is one thing. However to do so when you are trying to pin the criticism Melo is receiving on racism is contradictory.

I know last year he was ranked higher than melo on the player list due to accomplishing nothing nicca had no pressure at all and could pursue those stats . It kills me how people say melo would be happy scoring 50 and losing as long as he gets his .what is this based on ? Melo is always in the playoffs every season of his career yet apparently he's a loser and talked about as if he's monta Ellis ( who in interviews sounds like a real competitor I'm just speaking on his criticism )

Bron hate was partially racial but he also did the decision and had a victory party before they even played a game , he went on twitter saying stuff about taking notes and how'd he get revenge On people . You don't see how that would rub a bunch of fan bases wrong ? Not to mention he turned down big basketball cities .

It's utterly amusing how you embrace/accept the mentality of racist middle aged white men when it is in line with what you believe. If Melo did all that shyt before coming to NY it would be cool but since it's Bron "They have point." .

 

[whereyourseabass]

Knicks Fans Aint Like Most Of The Coli Who Have Their Individual Little Heros And Daddy Worship Issues

Melo Could Be 0-40 With 0 Points And I Could Give A shyt As Long As The Knicks Won The Game

TRUTH.

 

[Lakers Offseason]

You realize that the article that this thread is based on where the reporter is calling Melo a selfish ball hog diva that is soft mentally is written by a guy that admitted he doesn't watch Melo play . Or another national voice Colin cowherd who makes up stories about Melo to try and say his team mates hate him and don't want to play with him . That's unneccesary , saying he's not efficient or his playoff percentage are criticisms that you can use that other stuff is just suspect

I posted earlier about Shaugnesshy being a troll and just trolling NY. He's just in it to . The post you just quoted is my response to posters who're crying racism in general when Melo gets criticized. I'll cry racism when I see it, but Melo gets criticism thrown his way because he's a high profile superstar playing for a high profile city, not because he's black.

this is stupid....Melo has performed well and held up his end of the bargain in the playoffs. Romo has laid egg after egg in the post season when it comes to his personal performance.

So we're gunna hold it against Melo that his teams have been inferior? Its melo's fault that Amare has been out of the playoffs three years in a row? Outside of one or two series that he has lost in the first round, his teams were dramatically undermanned. Its these childish and unthinking arguments, combined with racially charged barbs thrown his way about him being a thug, and unintelligent, etc which rightly makes people believe that race is controlling the abject negativity against Melo.

You missed the point of my post. Superstars get criticized by the media because they're superstars and they're going to get blamed if their team don't win. It's been that way forever. The NBA, which is dominated by black superstars will obviously have majority of criticism thrown at black players. That's just a reality. Just like in the NFL where the high profile players are the QBs which happened to be dominated by white guys, receive most of the criticism.

 

[Carlos Huerta]

Basketball, football, boxing, track and field, and retired from Baseball....

Imagine a world where a bunch of black men from the block argue over...events like skating or lacrosse. It's almost impossible to fathom. It's outta "White Mans Burden" or some shyt. Yet we have a CONSTANT barrage of race-based criticisms of black athletes being "thugs" and "hoodlums" from these white bread, celery stick eating, chicken shyt cacs. It's fukking disgusting.

 

[Carlos Huerta]

nikkas need to stop making every analysis that they don't like about race. Players who are elite or have elite talent catch shyt for losing. Yeah it can be stupid and myopic but it's pretty consistent across the board. People question whether you can win until you actually win regardless of what is going on around you (see Lebron in Cleveland, see Jordan in the 80's see pretty much every top athlete that doesn't have a ring, except Nash that's racial no doubt).

What's funny is that nikkas either let shyt that is actually based in race slide or hop in on the shyt (Bron's decision backlash, McNabb being a loser) but when a nikka you like catches heat it's all about the race card. I will be the first to acknowledge racist bullshyt however a nikka with Melo's profile and playoff history catching shyt isn't an example of it.

forgot what forum you were in?

 

[NYC Rebel]

Dude stop....

Keep in mind Melo was 3rd overall pick and people were hyping him up like he was gonna the Larry Bird to Lebron's Magic Johnson.

How many times has he been out of the the first round?

How many individual awards has he racked up in his NBA career?

He's underachieved, he's without a doubt a great player, but he hasn't lived up expectations. He was supposed to be on the same level as Wade and Lebron and that simply hasn't been the case, be it from a team or an individual standpoint.

So you have no answer to my question?