Let's have an honest conversation about the '94 crime bill....

[get these nets]

So your solution is to call on white daddy to come institutionalize another generation?

You are a law school graduate. Stop trying to communicate like we're both in middle school.

If God forbid, somebody breaks into your parent / aunt's home or car who are they going to call?

The answer is THE POLICE.
And the contents of the house or the car can be replaced. The homicide victims' lives cannot be replaced.

So measures to lock up the killer to punish him and prevent him from killing others, and to possibly deter future killings make sense.

 

[Barlow]

the dedication to shilling

 

[EBK String]

You are a law school graduate. Stop trying to communicate like we're both in middle school.

If God forbid, somebody breaks into your parent / aunt's home or car who are they going to call?

The answer is THE POLICE.
And the contents of the house or the car can be replaced. The homicide victim's lives cannot be replaced.

So measures to lock up the killer to punish him and prevent him from killing others, and to possibly deter future killings makes sense.

I'm talking systemic solutions to systemic issues. Calling the police clearly has not done anything to deter crime in the black community. So what is the solution besides what I said?

And someone has broke into my mommas house multiple times, the police didn't do shyt. My family and to handle it. You nikkas have more faith in the police than your own people when the police themselves are full of criminals.

 

[buzzkill]

The crime bill is just one of those things to point up when you start considering who helped build the increasingly authoritarian police state that we live in. You're asking people who aren't democratic party loyalists, who were likely struggling/unhappy with the country as it is constructed even before COVID to stfu and support the person who played an integral role in creating the fukking problems they see all around them.

That will work on some, others it won't. You've made your decision about how to handle that, let people make theirs and hope that enough people buy the bullshyt to get him elected. If you want people to be even less likely to 'suck it up and vote for Joe" keep shaming them and beating dead horse arguments.

/thread

tired of all these shills Nov cant come fast enough

 

[UpAndComing]

It would pass again today look at all the short sided nikkas who would rather just lock up all the young and lost people in their community instead of doing the hard work and fighting for economic, education and housing resources which would in itself lower crime. People in stable hosuholds and communities do not commit crime at high levels.

They rather lock up young black men instead of give them jobs


........ Then become a fake militant and protest against the Prison Industrial Complex

 

[TripleAgent]

Biden's kneecaps can't be sturdy enough to handle all of you sucking them

I am old enough to remember the era. Yes, something needed to be done, and he and his ilk chose the most destructive, subtractive, racist and PROFITABLE way to do it, ALL at black people's expense.

 

[EBK String]

Biden's kneecaps can't be sturdy enough to handle all of you sucking them

I am old enough to remember the era. Yes, something needed to be done, and he and his ilk chose the most destructive, subtractive, racist and PROFITABLE way to do it, ALL at black people's expense.

while nikkas cheered it on "yeah arrest our young men they are nothing but trouble, I know we failed them by not pushing after the civil rights movement but we needs our peace and quiet"

 

[Jekyll]

It would pass again today look at all the short sided nikkas who would rather just lock up all the young and lost people in their community instead of doing the hard work and fighting for economic, education and housing resources which would in itself lower crime. People in stable hosuholds and communities do not commit crime at high levels.

I mean people are calling for worse already. nikkas were straight up talking about street justice after that one weekend with all the kids getting shot. But nikkas on here will call you a c00n for saying we need to address the problems in our communities. The more grieving mothers you create, the more calls you are going to hear for someone to do something about it.

The crime bill is just one of those things to point up when you start considering who helped build the increasingly authoritarian police state that we live in. You're asking people who aren't democratic party loyalists, who were likely struggling/unhappy with the country as it is constructed even before COVID to stfu and support the person who played an integral role in creating the fukking problems they see all around them.

That will work on some, others it won't. You've made your decision about how to handle that, let people make theirs and hope that enough people buy the bullshyt to get him elected. If you want people to be even less likely to 'suck it up and vote for Joe" keep shaming them and beating dead horse arguments.

Trump is rolling out unidentifiable federal agents who snatch people up in unmarked vans, in Black dominant cities as we speak. Joe Biden wrote a bill that garnered alot of support from black leaders of the time.

Nevermind that though, what would be your solution then and now to crime in black communities?

 

[get these nets]

I'm talking systemic solutions to systemic issues. Calling the police clearly has not done anything to deter crime in the black community. So what is the solution besides what I said?

And someone has broke into my mommas house multiple times, the police didn't do shyt. My family and to handle it. You nikkas have more faith in the police than your own people when the police themselves are full of criminals.

Chicago ,East St. Louis and a few others places might be the anomolies, but despite what you just typed.....crime has been trending down across the country in the decades since the mid 90s peak. Violent crimes and homicides have dropped drastically.

Apparently, the efforts of law enforcement HAVE reduced and deterred crime rates for much of the country.
And that stats back up what I'm saying.

Smarter policing, use of cameras, and long sentences for gun charges have served as a deterrent and tools to get convictions.

 

[SunZoo]

I don't think my post has anything to do with rather or not you are democratic loyalist. I see no point in party affiliation. Also which part of my post are "shaming" to anyone.

It has everything to do with it because democratic loyalists are going to vote for Biden regardless. Those cult members are locked in, so who are you really talking to besides people who aren't "blue no matter who"?. This is the umpteen thread questioning/arguing against the reason(s) people have decided to not vote for Joe Biden.

It's interesting you point to something that was done 25+ years ago regarding the authoritarian police state when there is real life present day more egregious things happening right now at the direction of the current president that would push the police state over the mountain top. The biggest issue with stances like yours is y'all don't keep that same energy both ways. My post was no glowing review of Biden nor to absolve him of his faults during those years. Maybe if you bothered to read you would have realized that.

If you notice I said the crime bill, which is only highlighted here because it specifically targeted and hurt black folk is ONE thing you could point up in the progression to how we arrived here.

Bolser the prison industrial complex (new slave market) and push militarization of police Be the buffoon with access to the former's vision for America.

Also, I didn't say you gave Biden a glowing review. I didn't even quote you directly because my comment was moreso aimed at the next doof to make this thread trying to convince non-democratic loyalists that what they really need to do is support a corrupt, senile, racist, 'tough on crime', cooperate owned republican to protect ithem from the corrupt, senile, racist, 'tough on crime' corporate owned republican. You'd be better off promoting down ballot candidates to check for/donate to than going that route.


Justice Democrats is proud to endorse Cori Bush!

 

[EBK String]

Chicago ,East St. Louis and a few others places might be the anomolies, but despite what you just typed.....crime has been trending down across the country in the decades since the mid 90s peak. Violent crimes and homicides have dropped drastically.

Apparently, the efforts of law enforcement HAVE reduced and deterred crime rates for much of the country.
And that stats back up what I'm saying.

Smarter policing, use of cameras, and long sentences for gun charges have served as a deterrent and tools to get convictions.

crime has dropped in cities because of gentrfication, poverty has moved to the suburbs and crime has increased there, has nothing to do with the police. Also the crack era is over so crime dropped because nobody is warring over million dollar blocks anymore. I swear you immigrants are going to be the death of black people.

 

[AyBrehHam Linkin]

lmfao on god if you a law biding adult that shyt wouldn't have affected you.

 

[Cel 510 kid ados forever]

I've long thought about making a thread very similar to this, but concluded that this section was not ready to have that conversation, and it would just be spammed with hate/shyt/insult posts. That said, the bill still turned out to be a disaster so that's ultimately what it will be remembered for. The Violence Against Women Act doesn't seem to get talked about enough when people talk about the crime bill.

Stfu clown

 

[get these nets]

crime has dropped in cities because of gentrfication, poverty has moved to the suburbs and crime has increased there, has nothing to do with the police. Also the crack era is over so crime dropped because nobody is warring over million dollar blocks anymore. I swear you immigrants are going to be the death of black people.

Uh, no String. I don't take the bait.( deflection and smilie proof)
First you wrote that calling police , and by extension police force in general doesn't do anything to deter crime in Black communities.

I called B.S. on that and mentioned the decades long trend of reduced crime rates in some of the cities where Black people live, and was willing to cite statistics.

Then not being able to refute it, you write that "the reduced crimes rates have nothing to do with the police".
Come on ,String. Don't cop pleas and list every other reason for reduced crimes rate other than law enforcement. You don't beleive that.

 

[Numpsay]

It has everything to do with it because democratic loyalists are going to vote for Biden regardless. Those cult members are locked in, so who are you really talking to besides people who aren't "blue no matter who"?. This is the umpteen thread questioning/arguing against the reason(s) people have decided to not vote for Joe Biden.

My overall purpose of the thread was to have a discussion about the 94 crime bill. I guess I should have left my opinion about the crime bill not being a reason not to vote against Biden out for people like you that were going to zero in on that aspect of the argument. This thread wasn't even really meant to sway anyone to vote one way or another, but through my observation in other threads a lot of people are ignorant to many different aspects of the crime bill in '94. And I am not on this board everyday, if you have participated in the other threads on the same topic you could have easily skipped over this one.

If you notice I said the crime bill, which is only highlighted here because it specifically targeted and hurt black folk is ONE thing you could point up in the progression to how we arrived here.

Bolser the prison industrial complex (new slave market) and push militarization of police Be the buffoon with access to the former's vision for America.

Also, I didn't say you gave Biden a glowing review. I didn't even quote you directly because my comment was moreso aimed at the next doof to make this thread trying to convince non-democratic loyalists that what they really need to do is support a corrupt, senile, racist, 'tough on crime', cooperated owned republican to protect is from the corrupt, senile, racist, 'tough on crime' corporate owned republican. You'd be better off promoting down ballot candidates to check for/donate to than going that route.


Justice Democrats is proud to endorse Cori Bush!

Again you are focused on this only being about the upcoming election where it appears you could careless who wins because you are unable to differentiate one candidate from the other when its clear as day they are not one in the same. Also you should realize you are in the minority here, checking for down ballot candidates isn't going to do us much good right now. Unfortunately for them they only become in focus when people want to stand on a soapbox and not choose between candidates that actually have a chance at winning. I don't see now being the time to waste a vote. But after this election I hope I, myself, along with other do more work to get better candidates in position to be elected for local, state and national positions. You seem to have me pegged as someone I am not primarily based off a thread meant to discuss the '94 crime bill.