Let's OFFICIALLY kill the talk of Snitchbe being better than LeBron

[FunkDoc1112]

Have less finals MVPs than LeBron brehs

 

[Kobes Two Jerseys]

Kobe stans.

Shaq had finals wins before Kobe? What years?

 

[Reflected]

Shaq had finals wins before Kobe? What years?

No years, you fukking retard. The point is, rings don't determine a player's ability. Jesus... That is all Kobe stans rely on, rings.

 

[Kobes Two Jerseys]

No years, you fukking retard. The point is, rings don't determine a player's ability. Jesus... That is all Kobe stans rely on, rings.

So what is the big deal about Shaq then? He obviously wasn't good enough to win a single finals game without Kobe, but its Kobe that needed Shaq? What does it say about Kobes ability that he has more rings and finals trips than Shaq?

 

[Reflected]

So what is the big deal about Shaq then? He obviously wasn't good enough to win a single finals game without Kobe, but its Kobe that needed Shaq? What does it say about Kobes ability that he has more rings and finals trips than Shaq?

Please stop. Scoring champion, ROTY, more finals MVP titles. I'm from LA too, a lot people don't know how much of a monster he was when he played for LSU. That giant dunkman statue is still out there. Exactly what are you arguing, that Shaq was a nobody before he teamed up with Kobe? That would be showing your lack of knowledge about Shaq which further proves what I first said in this thread. Are you saying Shaq couldn't win a ring without Kobe? It is a team sport, obviously one player won't win a ring buy themselves and he and the Heat won a ring before the Lakers did. Go back and comprehend what I said, I said track record, the point of my post was that Lakers fans do not give Shaq the credit he deserves. But please, continue talking in circles about Shaq needing Kobe to be a good player and that he was somehow a bad player before he joined Kobe. I won't be furthering this discussion.

 

[Reggie]

All I know is Kobe couldn't have led the 2007 Cavs to the Finals and he wouldn't have got them 2 wins last year and a title this year. But you put Bron on those Lakers teams with Shaq and they probably win 5 or 6 in a row.

 

[Kobes Two Jerseys]

Please stop. Scoring champion, ROTY, more finals MVP titles. I'm from LA too, a lot people don't know how much of a monster he was when he played for LSU. That giant dunkman statue is still out there. Exactly what are you arguing, that Shaq was a nobody before he teamed up with Kobe? That would be showing your lack of knowledge about Shaq which further proves what I first said in this thread. Are you saying Shaq couldn't win a ring without Kobe? It is a team sport, obviously one player won't win a ring buy themselves and he and the Heat won a ring before the Lakers did. Go back and comprehend what I said, I said track record, the point of my post was that Lakers fans do not give Shaq the credit he deserves. But please, continue talking in circles about Shaq needing Kobe to be a good player and that he was somehow a bad player before he joined Kobe. I won't be furthering this discussion.

Didnt say Shaq was a nobody. Simply that anytime anyone brings up Kobes career, clowns throw in "but Shaq". For what? Nobody is denying Shaqs value, he was a great player, but the fact of the matter is this. Shaq didn't win shyt until Kobe became Kobe. It took them 4 years to win together. If it was all a out Shaq, why didn't the Lakers win in 97,98,99? I mean damn, Shaqs a beast right? Oh yea, he couldn't get it done by himself. Shaq, along with every other great player, needed another great player beside him. Shaq was so great, he won 4 titles to Kobes 5. Interesting.

 

[Worthless Loser]

Kobe is the better clutch and 1 on 1 player. Lebron is the better teammate and distributor.

 

[Reflected]

Didnt say Shaq was a nobody. Simply that anytime anyone brings up Kobes career, clowns throw in "but Shaq". For what? Nobody is denying Shaqs value, he was a great player, but the fact of the matter is this. Shaq didn't win shyt until Kobe became Kobe. It took them 4 years to win together. If it was all a out Shaq, why didn't the Lakers win in 97,98,99? I mean damn, Shaqs a beast right? Oh yea, he couldn't get it done by himself. Shaq, along with every other great player, needed another great player beside him. Shaq was so great, he won 4 titles to Kobes 5. Interesting.

Where did I say it was "all Shaq" when he was playing with the Lakers? You are either quoting the wrong person, backpedaling into a completely different discussion, or lack comprehension of the English language. I think you are assuming that because I quoted the poster in my first post, I agreed with everything he said. I was simply saying most Lakers "stans" I come across rarely ever bring Shaq into the discussion. He did a lot for their team and is an all time great player. Now you are turning this into a rings competition again, like I said before, just stop.

 

[SpursFanSinceNovember2017]

Kobe is the better clutch and 1 on 1 player. Lebron is the better teammate and distributor.

 

[Bounty]

I like Kobe but Lebron surpassed him awhile ago.

 

[Kobes Two Jerseys]

Where did I say it was "all Shaq" when he was playing with the Lakers? You are either quoting the wrong person, backpedaling into a completely different discussion, or lack comprehension of the English language. I think you are assuming that because I quoted the poster in my first post, I agreed with everything he said. I was simply saying most Lakers "stans" I come across rarely ever bring Shaq into the discussion. He did a lot for their team and is an all time great player. Now you are turning this into a rings competition again, like I said before, just stop.

Why even bring Shaq into it in the first place? Nobody does that with other players.

 

[Reflected]

Why even bring Shaq into it in the first place? Nobody does that with other players.

haha Yes, this is the part where your start nitpicking every little thing I say and try to start a completely different never ending discussion. Listen, you assumed I meant one thing, you read wrong, go quote someone else.

 

[Houston911]

The ring talk is silly

If steph hits more shots and the cavs lose does that make lebron a worse player? Never understood this logic

Kobe still better though

 

[Dwight Howard]

All I know is Kobe couldn't have led the 2007 Cavs to the Finals and he wouldn't have got them 2 wins last year and a title this year. But you put Bron on those Lakers teams with Shaq and they probably win 5 or 6 in a row.

kobe wouldn't have in 2011 or 2014