Let's settle this one and for all...
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Don't know what this is getting at, because there's only been like 4-5 TOP guys and their production speaks for itself (I'm ratings and not revenue). Vince and Co might have made the most money with Austin and Cena, but they lost the most ratings with Cena.
When people aren't feeling your top guy, they tend to start finding other things to do besides watching Smackdown forst, and then Raw. Since going public, WWE has been awash in money, so the revenue is skewed, but they haven't been making a compelling product.
Hogan, Austin, and Rock have been the top guys that made the cash. HHH and Cena hasn't. The ratings speak louder than opinion.
How has Cena not made cash? Cena main evented 3 of the top 5 most successful Wrestlemanias. Cena is a confirmed draw and the biggest cash cow of this generation. Ratings have been in the toilet ever since they extended Raw to 3 hours. Not entirely Cena's fault.
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2-Rock ME's, Hickenbottom, HHH. Not really hard to see who was carrying those feuds. I guess Mr. Public deserves just instant credit for a boom he really didn't start or contribute to perpetuating. I'd give him more credit if he'd actually made more stars during his time as the decade long top dog (like all the other top guys) but
.I do blame him for the current state of the WWE due to his backstage fukkery.
Silkk
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Word, after he left i stopped watching Raw for bout 6 monthsDidn't stop people from changing the channel to Nitro.
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As big a shawn fan as i am, it's absolute BS to say he's the one who carried the Cena-HBK build for WM2-Rock ME's, Hickenbottom, HHH. Not really hard to see who was carrying those feuds. I guess Mr. Public deserves just instant credit for a boom he really didn't start or contribute to perpetuating. I'd give him more credit if he'd actually made more stars during his time as the decade long top dog (like all the other top guys) but
I do blame him for the current state of the WWE due to his backstage fukkery.
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So I guess this is the usual 
for Hickenbottom/Cena thread huh? Again, Austin, Rock, and Vacant racist don't need the constant . That's why neither are GOAT's.
for Hickenbottom/Cena thread huh? Again, Austin, Rock, and Vacant racist don't need the constant . That's why neither are GOAT's.MrSinnister
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He made Cena look like a trillion bucks, as usual.
2-Rock ME's, Hickenbottom, HHH. Not really hard to see who was carrying those feuds. I guess Mr. Public deserves just instant credit for a boom he really didn't start or contribute to perpetuating. I'd give him more credit if he'd actually made more stars during his time as the decade long top dog (like all the other top guys) but
I do blame him for the current state of the WWE due to his backstage fukkery.
Wrestlemania 27 with Miz in the Main Event was the 3rd most successful WWE PPV ever at the time. Of course The Rock came in at the end but he wasn't wrestling in the match.
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So basically no #Kilq love from the fans huh. Was trying to spread the credit. So all 3 of Cena's biggest triumphs have been because of The Rock.
Cena was just the top dog, because he was continuously forced on people. Fans, outside of milfs and children, weren't really feeling him.
Kill Dat Noize
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back then the wrestlers were the draws.
the wrestlers don't mater anymore. the authority runs the show.
maybe it's the authority that's not drawing.
the wrestlers don't mater anymore. the authority runs the show.
maybe it's the authority that's not drawing.
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People give Rock a ton of credit, but don't even realize that fyou can't even call him the top dog, but the top draw, if his era. Trips had Rock chasing nearly the entire time, and Rock STILL made a seismic impact. Now you have all of these invulnerable robots, who never change up and never feel really threatened, and they're painted as underdog faces.
There's also a lot of
in my post and Rock's era. No one knew if Rock would win, but seeing him constantly lose made me want to leave WWE, and I started having gaps in watching even then. Cena drove me completely off lol. But Cena was, undisputably, the top dog.
It just looks like Vince is really doing too much, and really doesn't know what makes a draw. Stone Cold was OP, at times outside the ring, but not in the match. He could lose. Hogan was just at wrestling's infancy as a complete mainstream lightning bolt, so he could be cartoonist for awhile. Don't know why people giving Cena passes when nearly everyone you ask hates the fukker.
There's also a lot of
in my post and Rock's era. No one knew if Rock would win, but seeing him constantly lose made me want to leave WWE, and I started having gaps in watching even then. Cena drove me completely off lol. But Cena was, undisputably, the top dog. It just looks like Vince is really doing too much, and really doesn't know what makes a draw. Stone Cold was OP, at times outside the ring, but not in the match. He could lose. Hogan was just at wrestling's infancy as a complete mainstream lightning bolt, so he could be cartoonist for awhile. Don't know why people giving Cena passes when nearly everyone you ask hates the fukker.
WOAHMYGOODNESS
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Piper did. Crowd was dead on that sorry $hit.
People give Rock a ton of credit, but don't even realize that fyou can't even call him the top dog, but the top draw, if his era. Trips had Rock chasing nearly the entire time, and Rock STILL made a seismic impact. Now you have all of these invulnerable robots, who never change up and never feel really threatened, and they're painted as underdog faces.
There's also a lot of
It just looks like Vince is really doing too much, and really doesn't know what makes a draw. Stone Cold was OP, at times outside the ring, but not in the match. He could lose. Hogan was just at wrestling's infancy as a complete mainstream lightning bolt, so he could be cartoonist for awhile. Don't know why people giving Cena passes when nearly everyone you ask hates the fukker.
Cripple H only had that belt 4 months during the whole Rock era. The Rock was the one winning clean without any DX or Big Show/Radicals interference. The Rock did everything on his own while Cripple H always needed a faction to retain or anything. Another reason why he's seen as lesser in history.
