LETS STOP THIS IF KD WAS ON THE CAVS THEY WOULDNT MAKE IT FAR

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You give the 2010-2014 Heat KD; the Heat wouldn't have lost the 2011 NBA Finals. The Spurs wouldn't have taken the Heat to game 7 and Spurs wouldn't have ran the Heat out of the gym in five games either. KD offensive game is all around elite, and defense can never sag off him. With the talent that Cavs currently have nobody wouldn't have to stand around and wait for someone create a shot for them if KD replace Lebron. David Blatt wouldn't have gotten fire because KD talent will perfectly fit in a motion offense and KD is very coachable.

Russell and Harden didn't have to suppress their abilities to accomodate Durant neither the Warriors stars have to sacrifice their numbers.

You fools are disrespecting an elite player who have an flexible talent which allows him to play in any system that a coach wants to implement.

You can't do that with Lebron.
KD can't do what Bron did to those Heat teams, sure they beat the 2011 Mavs but he doesn't win in 2012, 2013, or 2014 because he's not close to the defender Bron was in that timeframe nor can he do what Bron did for the Heat in terms of versatility and play making.
 
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This the part nobody wants to admit. You drop KD off anywhere and he's still KD. You drop Bron off, then some adjustments need to be made for him to look like Bron. Both of these players are great, but this misnomer that the only way to win is to play the way Bron plays is a joke. KD wouldn't have to avg as many assists or rebounds for that team to succeed. You got people in here saying he wouldn't make it past the Pacers even though we watched a ragtag Boston team leaning on a rookie, Horford (who Love is better than), and a bunch of effort guys like Rozier, Smart, and Morris make it to the ECF is laughable. If you don't think KD with that Cavs roster couldn't make it to the ECF, then that hate is too thick in your blood. And again, for the life of me, I don't understand this narrative that this Cavs team is "terrible". They have the best roster in the entire East, and people acting like Bron is performing miracles out there.
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Oh look, someone that actually gets it - all of it! Why the hell is it so hard for everyone else not see all these things. My Cot.
 

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KD can't do what Bron did to those Heat teams, sure they beat the 2011 Mavs but he doesn't win in 2012, 2013, or 2014 because he's not close to the defender Bron was in that timeframe nor can he do what Bron did for the Heat in terms of versatility and play making.
In that timeframe, KD's game mature tremendously. He was always a good to great defender. The 2012 Celtics wouldn't dare to run a zone against KD. The Spurs during that timeframe had their defense broken apart by KD. You best believe they wouldn't box up the lane like they did against the Heat. The defensive strategies would have been different but wouldn't be enough to stop a multi scoring champion.
 

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This the part nobody wants to admit. You drop KD off anywhere and he's still KD. You drop Bron off, then some adjustments need to be made for him to look like Bron. Both of these players are great, but this misnomer that the only way to win is to play the way Bron plays is a joke. KD wouldn't have to avg as many assists or rebounds for that team to succeed. You got people in here saying he wouldn't make it past the Pacers even though we watched a ragtag Boston team leaning on a rookie, Horford (who Love is better than), and a bunch of effort guys like Rozier, Smart, and Morris make it to the ECF is laughable. If you don't think KD with that Cavs roster couldn't make it to the ECF, then that hate is too thick in your blood. And again, for the life of me, I don't understand this narrative that this Cavs team is "terrible". They have the best roster in the entire East, and people acting like Bron is performing miracles out there.
He has played with 2 or 3 MVPs his whole Career and last season was his 2nd trip to the finals so you just typed a lot of nonsense
 

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He has played with 2 or 3 MVPs his whole Career and last season was his 2nd trip to the finals so you just typed a lot of nonsense

Were they MVPs when they played together? You don't get to retroactively put KD on a team with 2 MVPs when one wasnt even starting. Thats the nonsense I dont understand with Bron stans. Wade and Bosh were "washed" when they got together BUT 23 year old Rusty and 6th man Harden were "mvps" when they were with KD. Y'all try too hard.
 

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Were they MVPs when they played together? You don't get to retroactively put KD on a team with 2 MVPs when one wasnt even starting. Thats the nonsense I dont understand with Bron stans. Wade and Bosh were "washed" when they got together BUT 23 year old Rusty and 6th man Harden were "mvps" when they were with KD. Y'all try too hard.
Interesting statement. Read this side by side with the diatribe you wrote above and get back to us
 

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Interesting statement. Read this side by side with the diatribe you wrote above and get back to us

Yep....you're talking in circles. In your haste to try and retroactively prop up KD teammates in OKC, you further proved my point. KD got outta the very West that harbored those San Antonio and Dallas teams that sent Bron packing without hardware with his 3rd best player being a bench player. That core of 25 and under players got outta the West, but somehow 29 year old KD and veteran laden and former champion Cavs couldn't beat a Pacers team that had Bognovich lead them in scoring in a game during the series???? Your hate is embarassing.
 

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Just stop...If KD avg what he has done this post season they lose in 5 to the pacers. I'm not even going to waste my time posting the Rebounds and Assists because it's not even close.
KD doesn't have to put up numbers with the squad around him to be fair. If he was on the Cavs he'd have to put up bigger numbers and would do so

Look st the mpg gap alone
 

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In that timeframe, KD's game mature tremendously. He was always a good to great defender. The 2012 Celtics wouldn't dare to run a zone against KD. The Spurs during that timeframe had their defense broken apart by KD. You best believe they wouldn't box up the lane like they did against the Heat. The defensive strategies would have been different but wouldn't be enough to stop a multi scoring champion.

The Spurs game plan during that timeframe was let Bron shoot jumpers.

http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2013/06/12/film-study-spurs-dare-james-to-shoot-and-he-does-it-poorly/

Hey LeBron, I Double Dare You To Shoot

But somehow 50/40/90 KD wouldn't fair well tho :mjlol:
 

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KD doesn't have to put up numbers with the squad around him to be fair. If he was on the Cavs he'd have to put up bigger numbers and would do so

Look st the mpg gap alone
mpg doesnt translate to higher production. Its easy to come in spurts and give your all in that small period of time and not have to worry about what happens when you arent there because you have other elite scorers on the team. Take the 2017 finals for example, KD could take long rests and the rest of the team would still be fine but every time Lebron took a small break, he'd come back to a bigger deficit
 

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KD doesn't have to put up numbers with the squad around him to be fair. If he was on the Cavs he'd have to put up bigger numbers and would do so

Look st the mpg gap alone

extra mins don't mean more points. That prob means more bricks. especially the energy you gotta use all by yourself with no help.

KD doesn't avg more than 5 asts. He not getting anyone else involved which means nobody is going to play any defense. KD is getting swept by the pacers.
 
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