LETS STOP THIS IF KD WAS ON THE CAVS THEY WOULDNT MAKE IT FAR

[DillaTUDE]

LeBron's dragged worse than that to the Finals

Besides just the fact that Durant isn't in Bron's arena as a basketball player, he's also one of the least likeable, clearly bytchmade personalities to come along in the NBA in a very long time. Spending his time pretending to be fans defending himself on twitter. Can't get more pathetic than that. And yet dude still has stans...

...wait



Kevin, that you?

The ‘07 team? That beat a Pistons team with no Ben Wallace?

Are you seriously comparing LeBron beating them to KD having to trot out that pathetic lineup against the 2012-13 Grizzlies, Clippers and Spurs on the way to the Finals?

This is why it’s not even fair to compare these two players when you look at the list of opponents they had to play on their path to the Finals

 

[camer999]

Them shooting “mid 20% from the field or not” is irrevelant because defenders still have to respect Korver, Love and JR enough to not completely sag off of them, unlike your Sefolosha’s and Reggie Jackson’s. (And yes, Reggie Jackson and Thabo shot 20% from 3, whilst OKC’s best shooter in Kevin Martin only shot 35% from three.)

There is no Kevin Love to run at the five to draw Marc Gasol out of the paint.

There is no Korver or JR waiting on the wings to prevent Tayshaun Prince, Allen or Conley from collapsing on the drive.

He’d get “exposed” just like KD did with that trash lineup.

I never specified 3pt% I was speaking fg%

 

[NobleDrewAli]

Aside from Gm. 1 + his 43 point outing Westbrook was trash. He had Magic Johnson on air calling it the worst Finals performance that he'd ever seen from a point guard. Both him and Harden were awful.



Melo, PG and a peaking Adams > Waiters, Roberson, Reggie Jackson, Jeremy Lamb, Haseem Thabeet, et al.

He lost in Round 1 to a rookie, that tells you everything you need to know about all the "help" KD had.

The 2017 Finals it was three superstars versus three superstars (LeBron, Kyrie + Love vs. KD, Steph + Klay) and we saw who came out on top.

Act like Draymond, Iggy, and Livingston weren't on that team and played well brehs.

 

[DillaTUDE]

Act like Draymond, Iggy, and Livingston weren't on that team and played well brehs.

• Draymond was literally tagged with 4 or 5 fouls every game. The refs did everything within their powers to keep him off the floor and limit his impact. They even made up a tech out of thin air in Gm. 4 to try and get him ejected. What Finals were you watching?
• Livingston averaged 6.6 points and 1.2 assists
• Iguodala’s value will never be able to quantified because of his defense, but still he only averaged 8 points while shooting 33% from the free throw line

Did you actually watch the Finals or did you just throw out a bunch of names in hopes that they would stick?

The only role players who performed well for either side were Iggy (due to his defense) and J.R. Smith (11.8 points on +50% shooting from the field and behind the arc, but you’ll overlook this because it doesn’t fit the narrative that you’re looking for).

It’s that simple. KD outperformed LeBron and that’s why he was victorious. Not because of all this magical help that he was somehow getting from everyone else.

 

[Osmosis]

Same guys turn around and claim they're lightyears ahead, Klay is the best sbooter ever after Steph, Draymond is the best defender ever, Iggy is a HOFer

Epitome of depending on the angle of the discussion. Disingenuous is one word for em. I call em deplorable casuals.

Even my homie @Gil Scott-Heroin couldn’t dap that. He knows that the talent disparity in that series. Dudes are really arguing that Love, a complete defensive liability, was as effective as Draymond and Klay

 

[bxrfan]

Durant v. Grizzlies in that series - 28.8 ppg on 53 TS% - this is with a Perkins, Thabo, Ibaka and Reggie starting lineup
LeBron v. Grizzlies that season - 19 ppg on 47 TS% - this is with a Wade, Bosh, Battier(/Haslem), Chalmers starting lineup

You were saying?

Yeah LeBron always struggled against the Grizzlies during his Heat years. We would always hold him to below average numbers and I think we might've even had a winning record against those Miami squads.

Durant played fantastic against the Grizz and that's one of the reasons I've always been annoyed that we never got any credit for winning that series (in 5 games no less). I don't believe there's any shame in Durant losing to us that year. We were a damn good team that won 56 games.

In fact I really don't see how we were any worse than those Derrick Rose-era led Bulls squads. Durant certainly played at a higher level than MVP Rose did against the Heat in 2011, and Miami gets tons of credit for winning that series.

Yeah the games were all close but that was never something anyone brought up about our WCF series with the Spurs. We got swept but three out of the four games were close with two going to OT.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Even my homie @Gil Scott-Heroin couldn’t dap that. He knows that the talent disparity in that series. Dudes are really arguing that Love, a complete defensive liability, was as effective as Draymond and Klay

Why would I dap something that's not only wrong, but hypocritical and comes from a "disingenious" place? Do I even need to point out all the lies, and bullshyt Profasi has said about this team?

 

[Osmosis]

Fact of the matter is: KD has always had the luxury of having another MVP on his roster. The one year he had to play in the playoffs with his MVP co-star injured they called him Mr. unreliable

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Yeah LeBron always struggled against the Grizzlies during his Heat years. We would always hold him to below average numbers and I think we might've even had a winning record against those Miami squads.

Durant played fantastic against the Grizz and that's one of the reasons I've always been annoyed that we never got any credit for winning that series (in 5 games no less). I don't believe there's any shame in Durant losing to us that year. We were a damn good team that won 56 games.

In fact I really don't see how we were any worse than those Derrick Rose-era led Bulls squads. Durant certainly played at a higher level than MVP Rose did against the Heat in 2011, and Miami gets tons of credit for winning that series.

Yeah the games were all close but that was never something anyone brought up about our WCF series with the Spurs. We got swept but three out of the four games were close with two going to OT.

So basically you're saying if you swapped Durant out for LeBron, the Grizzlies still would've won that series?

 

[Osmosis]

Why would I dap something that's not only wrong, but hypocritical and comes from a "disingenious" place? Do I even need to point out all the lies, and bullshyt Profasi has said about this team?

I quoted the wrong post I meant the post above brehs

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

I quoted the wrong post I meant the post above brehs

*daps the post above*

 

[Remote]

It's hard to keep up.

Lebron aint Kobe level
Lebron aint MJ level
Now it seems people are saying Lebron aint Durant level?

Or that Durant is equal to Lebron?

My goodness...this board sometimes...

 

[bxrfan]

So basically you're saying if you swapped Durant out for LeBron, the Grizzlies still would've won that series?

nikka you ain't slick, you know I like LeBron so that's why you're asking that


On the real though I've never really thought about that. The easy thing to say would be LeBron would've found a way but I'm not so sure. During his Heat-era years there was always something about us that gave him problems. It's why I wanted to see a Memphis-Miami Finals in 2013 so bad, because I believe the Grizz would've had a real shot at beating them. The Heat didn't have the weapons to neutralize Z-Bo and Gasol like the Spurs did, and neither did the Thunder. LeBron usually tries to dictate the pace of the game too, but no one was better at doing that then those prime Grit N' Grind squads

I could see it being a situation where LeBron would inefficiently go off but it wouldn't matter because the Thunder team around him wouldn't be able to stop Z-Bo, Mike and Marc

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

nikka you ain't slick, you know I like LeBron so that's why you're asking that


On the real though I've never really thought about that. The easy thing to say would be LeBron would've found a way but I'm not so sure. During his Heat-era years there was always something about us that gave him problems. It's why I wanted to see a Memphis-Miami Finals in 2013 so bad, because I believe the Grizz would've had a real shot at beating them. The Heat didn't have the weapons to neutralize Z-Bo and Gasol like the Spurs did, and neither did the Thunder. LeBron usually tries to dictate the pace of the game too, but no one was better at doing that then those prime Grit N' Grind squads

I could see it being a situation where LeBron would inefficiently go off but it wouldn't matter because the Thunder team around him wouldn't be able to stop Z-Bo, Mike and Marc

And you'd be right.

But isn't it funny how this discussion of LeBron v. Durant in this thread is shaped by the circumstances that they found themselves in, and the path(s) of those around them - not because LeBron is this magical being who's on another level to Durant.

 

[NobleDrewAli]

• Draymond was literally tagged with 4 or 5 fouls every game. The refs did everything within their powers to keep him off the floor and limit his impact. They even made up a tech out of thin air in Gm. 4 to try and get him ejected. What Finals were you watching?
• Livingston averaged 6.6 points and 1.2 assists
• Iguodala’s value will never be able to quantified because of his defense, but still he only averaged 8 points while shooting 33% from the free throw line

Did you actually watch the Finals or did you just throw out a bunch of names in hopes that they would stick?

The only role players who performed well for either side were Iggy (due to his defense) and J.R. Smith (11.8 points on +50% shooting from the field and behind the arc, but you’ll overlook this because it doesn’t fit the narrative that you’re looking for).

It’s that simple. KD outperformed LeBron and that’s why he was victorious. Not because of all this magical help that he was somehow getting from everyone else.

• Nikka stop with all that ref BS for Draymond. Dude still avg. a double double for the seriesnot to mention his defensive impact.(But you ain't wanna mention that because it doesn't fit YOUR narrative).
• Livingston may have avg. 6 ppg. But his defense and overall playmaking was great that series.
• Nikka Iggy only avg. 8 points because with KD,Steph, Klay, AND Draymond who needs him to score anyway?

Stop acting like that Warriors squad wasn't leaps and bounds more talented than the Cavs.How can you honestly say KD didn't have help when they already had a better bench and added the second best player in the league to a 70 win team. It's easy for KD to ball out like he did when he's not the sole focus of the team like Lebron and Lebron still averaged a triple double. GTFOH.