lets talk about Dirk Nowitzki handing Father Time his first L

[Ashyneezz]

If they had the exact same teams in their prime a team with Dirk as the Pf would easily beat a team with KG as the Pf. I honestly don't think it would be close either

 

[Trojan 24]

Bruhs still hanging on to the KG>Dirk nonsense?

I thought that was put to bed when Dirk stomped out the Heat

 

[Trip]

Nash took a team that won 29 games the previous year and won 60 with them. No, it's not escaping me. I am well aware of how valuable Steve Nash was



KG has hung around post-injuries and done nothing. What do you want? He should have retired a few years ago.

Still, CP3 ain't LeBron so I wouldn't say WS is the end all be all of statistics.

I mean both are all timers Dont quite get the argument...

 

[Juggalo Fred]

Prime KG better than prime Shaq, Duncan, or Dirk....come on now

How young are you?

 

[Kill Dat Noize]

@Codeine Fiend Dream Team stating lots of facts right now. i was always torn on the dirk / garnett debate but no longer. he's got me convinced.

mvp's and dpoy's don't mean shyt. those things aren't earned, they are awarded. they are the result of a collective opinion. in other words, complete bullshyt. even crash has won best picture.

when it comes to wins and losses, garnett just doesn't measure up. no post season success as a solo act whatsoever. meanwhile dirk was out here carrying teams in the 4th game in and game out and had his team contending on a perennial basis. and yea garnett was great in 04 but he has never performed like dirk did the year he led his team to the championship.

dirk etched his own name.

 

[Sensitive Blake Griffin]

He never went to the Finals with Nash and Finley. Dirk wasn't MVP franchise player DIrk until they both left.

Josh Howard had a spark when he started and 4 years later was garbage. Pierce and Allen were both better than him.

Chandler was a defensive specialist. No real comparison there with KG's teams.

Jason Kidd?? Really? Dude was like 38 years old and nothing more than an on-floor coach when Dirk won. So 38 year old Kidd matters but we gonna act like Ray Allen dropping 30 points throughout the season aint shyt.


Okay.

Jason Kidd was locking down Lebron at 38 years old

 

[Codeine Bryant]

You said Dirk never had a team. They won 67 games and pissed the season away. That's why I mentioned it but you are deflecting. Lets discuss it.

I never said in this thread Dirk didn't have a team. Go ahead and quote me when I said "Dirk didn't have a team." I said his Finals teams were all role players. This is true.

KG couldn't do shyt with role players. This is true. KG needed All-Stars to achieve what Dirk did with role players. This is also true.

Mavs won 67 games and pissed away the season. This is true.
Duncan was a 1 seed in 2011 and pissed away the season. This is true.
I don't even know KG's reg season records or playoff seeding cause it's not even noteworthy. But he pissed away EVERY season until he had All-Star teammates. This is true.


There, did I discuss it enough for you?

 

[Ashyneezz]

People always bringing up KG's amazing defense but why was Dirk always feeding KG buckets when they faced off during their prime yrs?

 

[Codeine Bryant]

Jason Kidd was locking down Lebron at 38 years old

To be fair, that's more an indictment on LeBron's soft ass than it is with Dirk having an amazing 38 year old PG.

 

[Codeine Bryant]

People always bringing up KG's amazing defense but why was Dirk always feeding KG buckets when the faced off during their prime yrs

This.

All these back-in-the-day ass dudes wanna big up KG's defense. But KG got EATEN anytime he faced Duncan, Dirk, or Shaq.

You know, the 3 most dominant front court players of his era when his defense would have mattered the most...

What good is defense when it disappears against the best?

 

[Steezy]

Webber >>

 

[Kill Dat Noize]

even the years they got bumped, the mavs were still a contender. every year when the western conference playoffs would start someone always had to worry about the mavs no matter what they seed they were.

 

[Kill Dat Noize]

Webber >>

now that better be a joke.

 

[Steezy]

now that better be a joke.

Prime of course. Dirk just had a better 3

 

[Ineedmoney504]

To be fair, that's more an indictment on LeBron's soft ass than it is with Dirk having an amazing 38 year old PG.

u still haven't commented on my post about Kidd locking up bron, Kobe, Roy and checking Kd also

Just skip over my post cause u couldn't refute it.

Trying to downplay Kidd like him and jet didn't save dirk in the finals.

Compare kg wit a team 2nd best players being Wally or Troy Hudson on any given night to the players I mentioned