lets talk about Dirk Nowitzki handing Father Time his first L

[Codeine Bryant]

You are clearly in your feelings I guess because the Mavs only mattered for one year in their history.

You haven't been able to dispute a single fact I've posted in this thread. All you can do is bring up "win shares."


Pop shyt and don't even want to compare their careers as number 1 option. Must be nice to have Pierce and Allen on your team and get wide open looks.

Another KG stan who can't deal with facts.

At least Dirk was able to win with the Mavs. KG had to leave and team up with All-Stars to do what Dirk did with role players. Again, you gonna ignore this and bring up "win shares"

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

You haven't been able to dispute a single fact I've posted in this thread. All you can do is bring up "win shares."


Pop shyt and don't even want to compare their careers as number 1 option. Must be nice to have Pierce and Allen on your team and get wide open looks.

Another KG stan who can't deal with facts.

Win shares are facts, why wouldn't I bring them up for '08 playoff run.

For the record, I've never even said whether Dirk is better or not. You got defensive when ironically I brought defense into the discussion..

 

[Codeine Bryant]

Win shares are facts.

So is constantly being sonned out of the playoffs without All-Star teammates (KG).

So is making 2 NBA Finals and winning one without All-Star teammates (Dirk).


Finals MVP >>> "win shares"

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

So is constantly being sonned out of the playoffs without All-Star teammates (KG).

So is making 2 NBA Finals and winning one without All-Star teammates (Dirk).


Finals MVP >>> "win shares"

Did you reply to the one seed Mavs losing in the first round or did I not see your reply?

 

[Codeine Bryant]

WHAT THEM WIN SHARES LOOKING LIKE DOE????

 

[Codeine Bryant]

Did you reply to the one seed Mavs losing in the first round or did I not see your reply?

Yeah, they lost. What's your point?

You realize Duncan lost as a 1 seed in 2011, right?


You gonna tell me Garnett is better than Duncan now, too?

WHAT THEM WIN SHARES LOOKIN LIKE DOE??

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

WHAT THEM WIN SHARES LOOKING LIKE DOE????

Dirk has been more productive in later years. Total win shares is going to factor in longevity. So by your logic, John Stockton is the greatest PG of all time because he hung around longer and padded his stats

 

[Codeine Bryant]

Excuse me brehs, I'm just going HAM in this thread sonning the fukk out of this delusional KG stan.

He brings up "win shares" as a measure of how KG >> Dirk and even THAT backfires on him.





I'm done.

 

[Codeine Bryant]

Dirk has been more productive in later years. Total win shares is going to factor in longevity. So by your logic, John Stockton is the greatest PG of all time because he hung around longer and padded his stats

So now Dirk is less because he had a longer, more productive career.


Keep stanning

 

[stepbackj34spud]

You said the same thing when he went to the Wizards

For the record, the Wizards didn't use Pierce correctly either... He got infinitely more chances with them tho. I didnt want Pierce to resign with them because their coach is terrible.. I thought Doc would get Pierce more involved with Clipps offense.. I was wrong.

 

[Codeine Bryant]

Apparently your only argument for KG >> Dirk is his Win Shares in a season he lost in the WCF.

This is what it has come to. Can't argue careers, can't argue success as a number 1 option, can't argue who did more with less, can't argue who carried their franchise for over a decade.


We on that Win Shares wave


John Hollinger lookin ass.

 

[Sugar]

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[Ineedmoney504]

Nah, it really only goes one way.

Dirk with role players and not a single All-Star got to 2 NBA Finals in a much, much tougher conference.

KG with role players was completely irrelevant. Never did shyt. People like you copping pleas for him while a guy like Dirk was able to actually win multiple playoff series with his best player being a 6th man. KG didn't do shyt until he hopped on a team with 2 guys who used to be franchise players.

Ray Allen was still able to drop 30 points some nights in Boston. Let's not act like he was washed. And Pierce was still a better player than Dirk ever had on his 2 Finals runs.


At the end of the day, Dirk did more with less. KG needed great players around him to do what Dirk did with only role players. This is facts.


I don't really care what KG did with Boston, because it's real easy when you're no the focal point of the other team night in, night out. He could lay back and watch Pierce or Allen cook. Dirk NEVER had that luxury. Dirk carried his team post-Nash. Both of his Finals appearances came post-Nash.

KG never carried his teams to shyt. Ever. Dirk put guys like JJ Barea on. KG needed Pierce and Allen to put him on.


KG also the same guy who got DPOY accolades and praise from guys like you but consistently got absolutely sonned in the 1st round year after year after year after year. But you stay bringing up ONE season from Dirk. You ignore all of KG's shortcomings (there's a LOT), but emphasize Dirk's shortcomings. No objectivity here, just total delusion and stannery.

kg never had a team in minn. as good as either of those mavs finals teams

Having one year wit a old spree and cassell is the best players he played wit

So now the 05-06 Mavs are comparable to the 07-08 SuperTeam Celtics.

Paul Pierce and Ray Allen were better than EVERY player on that Mavs team other than Dirk. You really trying to argue this? You look foolish.

It was sure better every minn team

And let's act like dirk wasn't surround his entire career wit better talent

Nash
Howard
Terry
Finley
Chandler
Kidd

Was pretty much better than anybody kg ever played wit in minn. and many year dirk and all those talented player underachieved and loss, and was the first team to lose to a number seed, all while being guarded by a 6-8 sf

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

So now Dirk is less because he had a longer, more productive career.


Keep stanning

I didn't bring up win shares to compare KG and Dirk, your reading comprehension is nonexistent. I brought it up because you said Pierce was the best player on the '08 title team and that was clearly not the case.

So again you are in here saying that Stockton is better than Magic Johnson.

 

[Codeine Bryant]

I didn't bring up win shares to compare KG and Dirk, your reading comprehension is nonexistent. I brought it up because you said Pierce was the best player on the '08 title team and that was clearly not the case.

So again you are in here saying that Stockton is better than Magic Johnson.

Nah, I didn't say he was the best player. I said he made the clutch shots in the Finals to win Finals MVP. Something KG couldn't do. But something Dirk could and did do. Your reading comprehension is nonexistent.

Dirk is shyt cause he lost as a 1 seed. So again, you are in here saying KG >> Duncan by that logic