I was in 6th grade in '96 too.
reasonable doubt was in your big brother's tape deck.
youre spot on with chronic 2001 tho. SPOT ON. I mean, I wouldn't call the rest of the songs garbage but theyre painfully average.
Lets talk about FORCED "Classics"...West coast finna get they jaws tight
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I was in 6th grade in '96 too.
reasonable doubt was in your big brother's tape deck.
youre spot on with chronic 2001 tho. SPOT ON. I mean, I wouldn't call the rest of the songs garbage but theyre painfully average.
Oroko Saki
The Shredder
Take a seat you bytch assWho the fukk calls The Massacre a classic?to them. That was the worst piece of shyt, phoned in, money grab ever.
The Massacre is an undeniable classic. Better then GRODT
Forced Classics:
fakkitEm's discography
Ice Cubes discography
Chronic 2001
The Black Album
Wu Tang Forever
Naw...The Roots have a definite classic in How I Got Over, and Illadelph/Halflife is viewed as damn near classic
@DaveyDave and anybody else that was wondering.
I say there have been no classics after 2003 because:
1.) there aren't any albums that I can honestly say are better than even the most borderline classic albums.
2.) none of these so-called classics of the past 10 years would be held in the same regard if they came out in better eras.
3.) im not into crowning something a classic by default. just because it excelled against weak competition. im like the BCS rankings with mine.
4.) its unfair to all the superior albums from better eras that never got that look.
5.) its a disrespect to history.
6.) it contributes to the lowering of the bar......the bar which has been lowered below sea level at this point.
7.) its just all-around tacky.
I say there have been no classics after 2003 because:
1.) there aren't any albums that I can honestly say are better than even the most borderline classic albums.
2.) none of these so-called classics of the past 10 years would be held in the same regard if they came out in better eras.
3.) im not into crowning something a classic by default. just because it excelled against weak competition. im like the BCS rankings with mine.
4.) its unfair to all the superior albums from better eras that never got that look.
5.) its a disrespect to history.
6.) it contributes to the lowering of the bar......the bar which has been lowered below sea level at this point.
7.) its just all-around tacky.
the massacre wasn't even a good album.
it was literally a weedplate in people's cribs.
and that's before jadakiss said it. he was literally just speaking on the harsh realities of that album.
one of the worst album covers ever, as well.
it was literally a weedplate in people's cribs.
and that's before jadakiss said it. he was literally just speaking on the harsh realities of that album.
one of the worst album covers ever, as well.
Disciple of the Projects
Esau = Evil
Im gonna go out on another limb and say..... *GASP!*
ATLiens is not a classic CD front to back.
Its actually my LEAST played outkast album of their first 4.
I think people just hold it up based on the fact that dre got weird, and thats what all the cacs in magazine publications say. The first and 3rd CD's are way better. Sometimes it just seemed a bit spaced out, and "try too hard to be different". Its still a very good CD though. Don't get me wrong. And im also going to say that Dre is not way better than Big Boi like people make it seem. They have different ways of bringing lyrics out, even if its sometimes the same subject matter. And because dre's may sound "smarter" based on sometimes people not understanding what he's talking about, all of a sudden he's some genius and carries big boi. NO SIR. They are both great MC's that have made timeless music together and its unfair how the masses have been duped into making some sort of disparity based on what some cacs say in some gay ass magazine. fukk outta here.
ATLiens is not a classic CD front to back.
Its actually my LEAST played outkast album of their first 4.
I think people just hold it up based on the fact that dre got weird, and thats what all the cacs in magazine publications say. The first and 3rd CD's are way better. Sometimes it just seemed a bit spaced out, and "try too hard to be different". Its still a very good CD though. Don't get me wrong. And im also going to say that Dre is not way better than Big Boi like people make it seem. They have different ways of bringing lyrics out, even if its sometimes the same subject matter. And because dre's may sound "smarter" based on sometimes people not understanding what he's talking about, all of a sudden he's some genius and carries big boi. NO SIR. They are both great MC's that have made timeless music together and its unfair how the masses have been duped into making some sort of disparity based on what some cacs say in some gay ass magazine. fukk outta here.
SPCM is outkast's only arguable classic.
atliens is still better than aquemini tho. I can still jam atliens every once in a while. half of it at least.
that aquemini chit is just noise. str8 boosted by a bunch of Caucasian writers.
stankonia is trash, but its my most-played outkast album simply because it has some of the best songs they ever made. problem is, those songs only account for 25% of the album.
atliens is still better than aquemini tho. I can still jam atliens every once in a while. half of it at least.
that aquemini chit is just noise. str8 boosted by a bunch of Caucasian writers.
stankonia is trash, but its my most-played outkast album simply because it has some of the best songs they ever made. problem is, those songs only account for 25% of the album.
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With all of the ish being named in here, it can be said that so far 4 definite classic albums are
The Chronic
Only Built for Cuban Linx...
Illmatic
The Infamous (I saw mentioned, but only as a comparison)
I think I have literally seen every widely popular release mentioned so far.
I don't have a problem with people saying great albums are classic. We all have our favorites. I think the problem lies when people start calling 3.5-4mic albums (old Source scale), classics and it really curves the rating every other albums. You rate an average to slightly-above highly, and it takes a good album into classic status. Another thing is that people need to stop letting the artist tell them when an album is classic. Fukk ya opinion and the yes-men that co-signed it, let the people tell you it's wack.
The Chronic
Only Built for Cuban Linx...
Illmatic
The Infamous (I saw mentioned, but only as a comparison)
I think I have literally seen every widely popular release mentioned so far.
I don't have a problem with people saying great albums are classic. We all have our favorites. I think the problem lies when people start calling 3.5-4mic albums (old Source scale), classics and it really curves the rating every other albums. You rate an average to slightly-above highly, and it takes a good album into classic status. Another thing is that people need to stop letting the artist tell them when an album is classic. Fukk ya opinion and the yes-men that co-signed it, let the people tell you it's wack.
im loving this thread.
I mean, I disagreed with everything mentioned in the OP's 1st post except that overyhyped dr dre album.
but dam man, I just love bold threads & posts that are done with class, taste & grace.
somebody in here str8 said criminal minded like
. I SERIOUSLY DISAGREE BUT I GOTTA RESPECT IT.
I mean, I disagreed with everything mentioned in the OP's 1st post except that overyhyped dr dre album.
but dam man, I just love bold threads & posts that are done with class, taste & grace.
somebody in here str8 said criminal minded like
. I SERIOUSLY DISAGREE BUT I GOTTA RESPECT IT.
Big Mel
@bigboss
A lot. But simply not having bad songs doesn't thrust an album into classic status.
Lost Tapes basically is a bunch of 'small word's or 'poison's. Good songs. But there aren't many classic songs. The only song I love on it is 'nothing lasts forever'. I know how Nas Stan's move. They were baffled by not one wack song and itching for another album to rally around.
ThaRealness
Superstar
Linx is my favorite album and I dont even know if I can agree with this
Knowledge God is
also a lot of people dont fukk with Can It All Be So Simple Remix. I like that joint though
Big Mel
@bigboss
What?????
Yo check what happened outta state, I'm knockin off a half a cake, cash rule flyin at a fast rate, I smoke the black dust....
Maaaaaaaan. That's one ghosts best songs
Yo check what happened outta state, I'm knockin off a half a cake, cash rule flyin at a fast rate, I smoke the black dust....
Maaaaaaaan. That's one ghosts best songs
ThaRealness
Superstar
ATLiens is a cemented classic bruh
ThaRealness
Superstar
ya he kills it on that. actually one of the realest verses on the album. If I recall correctly dude got shot in Ohio right before 36 chambers was made
anyways Im just saying, Can It All Be So Simple (Remix) doesnt seem to get as much love as the rest of the album
the only song I personally dislike is knowledge god.. just cause the beat has 0 finesse
Big Mel
@bigboss
Even knowledge god is dope. It's gotta be the only rap song to mention Grasmere, SI.