Let's talk about how J. Cole is fading into irrelevancy

[InstantKlassik]

Dumbass thread and why did we just gloss over the fact that he renegaded Drake on Jodeci Freestyle?

 

[Enchanted]

You don't get it man. J Cole was the hottest prospect comin out the draft. Not only that but this nikka got a fukkin JAY-Z co sign. He was supposed to the one, not Kendrick.

So yea, bein that he's not in that discussion anymore? He's kinda irrelevant b. That's like sayin Carmelo Anthony is relevant. nikka you know he ain't never winnin shyt and that he's just killin time. It ain't never gonna happen for him.

Dumbass thread and why did we just gloss over the fact that he renegaded Drake on Jodeci Freestyle?

He did but where was the discussion? It's like no one gives a fukk about this nikka. Imagine if it were Kendrick on that verse instead of Drake, nikkas would still be discussing the verses to this day.

It's like Melo droppin 40 on LeBron during the regular season. Dope and all but you aint got no rings and I have 2.

 

[Professor Polo]

lol if you're a fan of Cole, you know he's said in multiple interviews that he's not going to flood the market with his music

First two albums went gold with platinum singes

Arguably album of the year this year...


Cole's got his own lane, with a good fanbase...he's gonna be around for a while

 

[Mikael Blowpiff]

If J. Cole's up all night then maybe he just remaster his old joints. He'll be out like 45 seconds into the first track.

 

[CDoty]

i listened to his album the day it leaked and haven't since its kind of

 

[Enchanted]

lol if you're a fan of Cole, you know he's said in multiple interviews that he's not going to flood the market with his music

First two albums went gold with platinum singes

Arguably album of the year this year...


Cole's got his own lane, with a good fanbase...he's gonna be around for a while

When did I say I wanted him to flood the market? I just want him to make better music and actually sound like he's trying. His 3rd album better be some crazy shyt or he's finished in my eyes.

 

[Professor Polo]

When did I say I wanted him to flood the market? I just want him to make better music and actually sound like he's trying. His 3rd album better be some crazy shyt or he's finished in my eyes.

I think Born Sinner is album of the year...sooooo, yeeah..

 

[Enchanted]

I think Born Sinner is album of the year...sooooo, yeeah..

Can you honestly say you're satisfied with the quality of both of his albums having listened to TWU and FNL?

 

[AquaCityBoy]

Dumbass thread and why did we just gloss over the fact that he renegaded Drake on Jodeci Freestyle?

You mean he had inferior lyrics but rode the beat better?

 

[Professor Polo]

Can you honestly say you're satisfied with the quality of both of his albums having listened to TWU and FNL?

I like Born Sinner more than FNL

 

[No1]

Pretty much. This past decade be oversaturated with gimmick, drama, and beef, that people have a hard time accepting the music for what it is.

That's part of it, but that's not my issue with him. He's not an engaging personality and the best selling rappers have always had a combination of talent + personality. The rappers who sell the most are always because people buy into their whole persona, not just the music. It's why people say "it's not what you say, it's how you say it." Cole had the underdog angle on his first album, and on this one he had people coming out to get the album they expected the first time plus the hype of going head to head win Kanye who alienated much of his fanbase with Yeezus (I didn't get it). But other than that, it's like he's a non-entity as far as his influence on the game. He doesn't show up on features like Kendrick and Drake. He's never on any big records. He's an insulated as his music is (the way he produces everything himself). You guys are always way too prone to think that people thinking that someone isn't engaging wants gimmicks. It's music, and it's about entertainment first and foremost, but it's hard to deny that Cole does a poor job of promoting his album past the initial hype. Him outselling Kanye had more to do with Kanye than J. Cole.

Crooked Smile was presented in the wrong package, and thus, it's not as big as it should have been. He himself said that song was meant for radio. So if you make a radio record and it doesn't blow up....what does that say...

This album sold faster than GKMC and won't even get close in sales. His and Kendrick's fa bases overlap but one guy managed to stay on everybody's tongue this year with an album that dropped last year and one guy hasn't. J. Cole constantly says he feels he's the best rapper out and he feels overlooked, so go out there and consistently body shyt and show and prove. He's right there, but makes the wrong choices. That is why he is getting overlooked at all these award shows despite putting out one of the 4 best albums of the year. Cole will be around awhile though. I just feel like he won't ever achieve the success he probably should. Maybe, he doesn't want to.

 

[InstantKlassik]

You mean he had inferior lyrics but rode the beat better?

Both

 

[gluvnast]

We have this kind of thread every year only for Cole to prove doubters wrong each time he drops a new album.

 

[Urbane]

Do some of y'all not leave your house or some shyt? J Cole is killing it on the radio. I didn't find Born Sinner to be a classic by any means, but you have to respect the man's ability to build and maintain a fan base.

 

[Enchanted]

That's part of it, but that's not my issue with him. He's not an engaging personality and the best selling rappers have always had a combination of talent + personality. The rappers who sell the most are always because people buy into their whole persona, not just the music. It's why people say "it's not what you say, it's how you say it." Cole had the underdog angle on his first album, and on this one he had people coming out to get the album they expected the first time plus the hype of going head to head win Kanye who alienated much of his fanbase with Yeezus (I didn't get it). But other than that, it's like he's a non-entity as far as his influence on the game. He doesn't show up on features like Kendrick and Drake. He's never on any big records. He's an insulated as his music is (the way he produces everything himself). You guys are always way too prone to think that people thinking that someone isn't engaging wants gimmicks. It's music, and it's about entertainment first and foremost, but it's hard to deny that Cole does a poor job of promoting his album past the initial hype. Him outselling Kanye had more to do with Kanye than J. Cole.

Crooked Smile was presented in the wrong package, and thus, it's not as big as it should have been. He himself said that song was meant for radio. So if you make a radio record and it doesn't blow up....what does that say...

This album sold faster than GKMC and won't even get close in sales. His and Kendrick's fa bases overlap but one guy managed to stay on everybody's tongue this year with an album that dropped last year and one guy hasn't. J. Cole constantly says he feels he's the best rapper out and he feels overlooked, so go out there and consistently body shyt and show and prove. He's right there, but makes the wrong choices. That is why he is getting overlooked at all these award shows despite putting out one of the 4 best albums of the year. Cole will be around awhile though. I just feel like he won't ever achieve the success he probably should. Maybe, he doesn't want to.

Exactly what I wanted to say.