Let's talk about the deteriorating skill of Jay-Z

Alexander Wiggin

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Yep, the problem is that us as listeners we placed the bar so low that a lot can be satisfied with an horrible verse. If a track like 3 kings would've been relesed 15 years ago, everybody would have laughed. Jay verse IS horrible, dre 's performance forced as hell,, and ross, well he did him.

That 3 kings track was supposed to be on detox. How can you listen to still dre, next episode, then listen to 3 kings and say it's on point. When your have jay z and kanye on an entire album and you can't tell who is better betweem the two of them, there's a probleme somewhere.

When is the last time you actually rewind a jay verse ? he still can drop good lines but his flow lost all the strengh it once had. Sorry to say
 

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Yep, the problem is that us as listeners we placed the bar so low that a lot can be satisfied with an horrible verse. If a track like 3 kings would've been relesed 15 years ago, everybody would have laughed. Jay verse IS horrible, dre 's performance forced as hell,, and ross, well he did him.

That 3 kings track was supposed to be on detox. How can you listen to still dre, next episode, then listen to 3 kings and say it's on point.

yeah I mean, here's a survey of the cratering quality of Jay & Dre collabs:

Still DRE
The Watcher 2
30's the new 20
Under Pressure
3 kings

they keep diluting the dose but we want to pretend we're getting the same high
 

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yeah I mean, here's a survey of the cratering quality of Jay & Dre collabs:

Still DRE
The Watcher 2
30's the new 20
Under Pressure
3 kings

they keep diluting the dose but we want to pretend we're getting the same high

shyt is definitely stepped on.
 

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cosign,....

then this nikka is always trying to point some bullshyt out.

except for ignoring his own actual stsn based bias.

nikka von doom,...stfu.

plus stop trying to point out shyt that was evident a decade ago.just so you and the rest of the defeated nas stan.

can attempt to celebrate a false win.


art barr

Bottomline is you agree with the thread starter...

The rest of your post is ad hominem..

Ole "Yeah I agree Bush was a terrible president, but I don't respect it coming from a liberal" azz n!ggas...


:heh:
 
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Its funny how people started caping for Jay and calling dude a stan on some defense mechanism but yet failing to actually challenge thread starters point. He gave a honest critique of Jay's music from his opinion.
 

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The thing is Jay doesn't know how to make grown music (most of the time). I mean I enjoy flossy rap once in a while but your greatness can't be the only thing you can tell us dude. He definitely is capable of dropping some grown shyt but this verse just sounded lame.

''nikkas aint fukking with my daughter room'' :aicmon:


He is hit or miss nowadays.

A lot of us Hov fans have grown up since the BP1 era. We want to grow with the artist.
 

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Don't know how you could listen to jay now and think he's anywhere close to as good as he used to be
 
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