I agree it all depends on who defines pure scorer I would say Melo can score from anywhere but his Denver days it never lead to anything big. Now that he is winning and leading a team near the top of the conference as of today its more openly admired and seen as a good thing.
Let's talk about the term "pure scorer" for a second
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I agree it all depends on who defines pure scorer I would say Melo can score from anywhere but his Denver days it never lead to anything big. Now that he is winning and leading a team near the top of the conference as of today its more openly admired and seen as a good thing.
It references guys who are either one dimensional or don't have the numbers/awards to support being called the best scorer, period. You don't hear people referencing Mike or Kareem or Wilt as pure scorers and they own pretty much all of the scoring records between them. I honestly don't recall people referencing Kobe as a pure scorer like that. 
Generally when people need to qualify like that there is some sort of agenda involved. 
Generally when people need to qualify like that there is some sort of agenda involved. 
the cac mamba
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its a good term to pull outta your ass
its def a good one tho
its def a good one tho
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havoc
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The term "pure scorer" isn't a bad thing. It doesn't clarify a pure scorer as a one-dimensional or an all-around player. "Pure scorer" basically means a player ability to score anywhere on the floor.
Generally speaking the best scorers can score anywhere on the floor. Thusly why is it necessary to reference a nikka as "pure". Why not just call a guy a great scorer? People throw the term "pure" out there as a qualifier.
That's not true at all I know you hate melo so that's your agendas . Look at Tyson chandlers fg% the last 2 years does that make him a pure scorer? You throw best scorer out there like that means something , what's that mean ? Most efficient ? Most ppg? You talking out your ass. Not every player can score in the post , on the wing , has a midrange game etc ... Those type of players are limited . Guys like Kobe , dirk , melo , Durant have more ways to score than most players .
It doesn't mean your the best player or MVP it just speaks about your offensive prowess
The first part was so random it doesn't even warrant a response.
If a nikka can score in the post, on the wing and in the midrange etc. then he's a great scorer period. No need to qualify the shyt. Why is the term "pure" necessary? All the nikkas you listed can flat out score.
HacksawJimThuggin
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So from what I gather, there's not really a general consensus on what a "pure scorer" actually is or what it entails.
Considering guys like Kobe and Melo are considered the best "pure scorers" relating to their skill set and ability to score from anywhere on the floor, and yet they shoot in the mid 40's in terms of FG%, is the skill set itself overrated? I know it makes them "complete" offensive players, but I'm here looking at D. Wade whose jumper has been broke since '09 and never been a good 3 point shooter, and yet he's shooting better than 50% somehow.
Why doesn't the complete skill set translate into tangible success? I know it makes it much harder on the defender knowing the guy you're guarding can hit the 3 ball, has a deadly midrange game, and can take you down to the block and score with his back to the basket, but if he (the offensive player) isn't actually doing all of that stuff in real life at a super efficient rate, what's the point?
Considering guys like Kobe and Melo are considered the best "pure scorers" relating to their skill set and ability to score from anywhere on the floor, and yet they shoot in the mid 40's in terms of FG%, is the skill set itself overrated? I know it makes them "complete" offensive players, but I'm here looking at D. Wade whose jumper has been broke since '09 and never been a good 3 point shooter, and yet he's shooting better than 50% somehow.
Why doesn't the complete skill set translate into tangible success? I know it makes it much harder on the defender knowing the guy you're guarding can hit the 3 ball, has a deadly midrange game, and can take you down to the block and score with his back to the basket, but if he (the offensive player) isn't actually doing all of that stuff in real life at a super efficient rate, what's the point?
DoubleClutch
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Durant is a pure scorer. Melo too. It's really an intangible quality I can see in players. Someone who scores with ease and in bunches.
Players who seem to always have 30+ points without making much noise.
Also they must score in an exciting way
unlike Karl Malone and other more efficient players.....
Players who seem to always have 30+ points without making much noise.
Also they must score in an exciting way
unlike Karl Malone and other more efficient players.....
Durant is a pure scorer. Melo too. It's really an intangible quality I can see in players. Someone who scores with ease and in bunches.
Players who seem to always have 30+ points without making much noise.
Also they must score in an exciting way
unlike Karl Malone and other more efficient players.....
I don't think it's an intangible thing at all. People who can score the most ways in a relatively efficient manner = the best scorers in the league
Durant, Melo, Pierce, Dirk, Kobe = the best scorers in the NBA
Lebron will be in that conversation if he continues to work on his post and mid range skills. It's not about who has the most points, the best field goal percentage or who's the best overall player. A pure scorer = someone whose scoring ability has no weaknesses, no holes. No matter where they are on the floor they can hurt you. Point, blank period.
It shouldn't be a backhanded compliment, but it's used that way often. People have been using it as a backhanded compliment towards Carmelo Anthony for almost a decade now.
DoubleClutch
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True. Kyries a pure scorer as well. I'd say to be a pure scorer you need a pure jump shot....but thats another conversation.
holidayinn21
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the t/s is so full of shyt.
Word. Like we can't tell this is another poorly designed Kobe hate thread. He even had the nerve to put Melo's name in there to make it seem like it wasn't anti Kobe.
HacksawJimThuggin
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Word. Like we can't tell this is another poorly designed Kobe hate thread. He even had the nerve to put Melo's name in there to make it seem like it wasn't anti Kobe.
The fact that we've had a civilized discussion and good dialogue despite not being able to arrive at a consensus about what the term actually entails until you butt hurt Kobe stans came in here is telling. But if the shoe fits, then by all means...
The thread is about the term "pure scorers" and players who are labeled as such. Why WOULDN'T I mention Kobe and Melo, considering they probably are on the receiving end of that description more so than anyone else? If anything, the thread would be dumb as fukk if I DIDN'T include those guys. No one even knows if the term is a genuine or back handed compliment and somehow you sensitive ass stans are still offended. Unreal.