Let's talk brehs. Have AA men overall become too comfortable/complacent?

[Skrilla]

I'm not "bashing" us but i notice that whenever somebody starts talking about not getting too comfortable in low positions etc a bunch of dudes start talking about how nikkas should be "grateful" for whatever we get from the white man. A lot of dudes are grateful for crumbs, and cling to those crumbs until they reach old age. I think a lot of it is fear to try something different. "What if i fail" what if you don't?

Somebody mentioned black men not working together enough, and i have to agree. Black boys and men shouldn't have to rely on cacs and other non black men for employment and resources. Black men should work together more to do things for black people. Dudes are quick to say that one black man can't do something, ok so why not link up with other black men and try. 5 black men putting resources together is better than 1 guy out there trying to do it all by himself. I did it on my own, but it wasn't by choice.

Brehs talk that "pro black" shyt but honestly you don't see a lot of black men teaming up to build together, especially in our own communities. The men who open up stores together and employ each other are mostly non-black. The black men living there don't fukk with each other like that outside of partying and shyt. Not on a business tip. You can say they do but you can look around and see that's not the case.

We love to see black men beef with each other all the time, but then complain about men of other races making moves together, putting each other on, like they're somehow WRONG for building with and helping the people who look like them. "Arabs are buying up everything" "It ain't fair how them Mexicans are opening businesses" etc

I'm not looking down on anybody, because i've worked some undesirable jobs before, where the upper manangement was mostly white, black men of all ages working in the lower positions and getting paid less, and i did it because at the time i didn't really have any other option, i was a young black man but there weren't any black men around with any businesses or strong connections who could give me a job, that's the same case for a lot of other black men. What some of us are saying is, we need to ensure that our sons won't have to do the same thing, working for cacs because they don't have any other choice.

One reason cacs don't take the complaining serious is because after complaining about them, we go right back to work for them anyway. If you were them would you take that seriously? If you owned something and the people who worked for you complained about how much they hate you off the clock, but then come right back and work for you forever, making you and your family and friends wealthier, would you take them seriously?

 

[PhonZhi]

The "propped up negro" has had some of the most devastating effects on black people period. I've been meaning to make a thread on it

 

[wickedsm]

Great topic op.

 

[BrandonBanks]

Overall, yes. But this thread will be full of posters who come in and name call and insult you like kindergarteners.

Imo black men as a collective don't like to turn the mirror on ourselves and anaylze anything that we need to improve on. A few are willing to but the majority refuses. We'd rather laugh and tapdance for scraps from Mr Charlie and spend our time "having fun" and shopping when we're not punching the clock for him. There's no plan, no trying to figure anything out, etc. They refuse to even take the subject seriously. Black men at this point don't even see ourselves as a collective, we see ourselves as separate individuals who just happen to be black, who exist in the same country. Then they wonder why black men are in the position we're in compared to other races of men who pool resources together.

We may as well admit that the Black community will always have to rely on cacs and non-blacks to take care of us. Just about every grocery store, bank, dry cleaner, and all other essential businesses in Black neighborhoods are owned by non-blacks to serve the communities. Black men stopped striving to be business owners after segregation ended. The only way to reverse the damage that has been done to Black communities worldwide would be to bring back segregation which would then force black men to stay in their communities and nurture them. Now of course that will never happen because it is not the politically correct thing to do and in this day and age it would be a logistical nightmare. We are now consumers and not producers because of nonexistent male leadership.

 

[ignorethis]

The average black person isn't trying to compete with whites, they can't even imagine black "competing" with whites because they've never seen it in their lifetimes.

nikkas just trying to get by under white rule. Most of the nikkas complaining about white people wouldn't know what to do with themselves if white people disappeared tommorow.

 

[Ohene]

Women allow a lot of black men to be. nikkas know that working a menial job, having a decent car, the latest jordans, A gold chain and some polo is enough to attract most black women and that a dikk game is enough to keep em. As a result they get that and become complacent. A lot of black women are also intimidated by educated, self sufficient black men. And I'm not talking about rich men. I mean those who are socially aware and attentive. Black women like to be in control and see nikkas like that as too boring, challenging or arrogant. You can try and drop gems on em and they'll think you're just talking shyt or being a know it all. An athlete or rapper might have money, fame etc. but a lot of them are still unintelligent. Women know this and prey on them for that reason knowing that p*ssy is enough to have them wrapped around their fingers. It's the control they want.

But yea most men do what they do to obtain women, start a family etc. it's the sad reality. If black women held the average nikka to a higher standard , the average nikka would strive for more.

 

[BrandonBanks]

And that instance and other incidents like these really illustrate the moral slumber that is so prevalent within the black community.You can't look at me with a straight face and tell me we as black people haven't become the walking dead, morally and spiritually barren. Our communities are riddled with drugs, violence, and despair. Trash and garbage litter the streets.

There are pimps with suits and ties who call themselves pastors, on every corner.

The community is economically ran by foreigners that blacks seem to love to patronize despite their exploitation. And this reality is in every urban city you go in.

The black man, who are suppose to be the one's protecting the community are instead lining themselves in 1-2 hour wait lines for the latest pair of Jordans, gunning each other down over stare downs and trivial arguments, shooting hoops, chasing after ratchet and trifiling whores (who really do not have their best interest), hanging out in front of Arab owned gas stations and liquor stores, cracking jokes about each others clothing and looks, own no businesses and aspire to be nothing more than flunkies for men of another race. This is the state of the black man and his communities in 2017. And it is a testament to the moral and social decline of black America as a whole. If this doesn't indicate the moral/social/cultural decline of a people, what does?!

 

[Micron]

Not every man has been instilled with a sense of confidence, is taught to value himself, and is encouraged to strive for more. Black Americans are socialized by the dominant White American to think of themselves as second class citizens. It is only exceptional individuals who teach others or themselves to think otherwise. Therefore, no matter how sad a commentary it is when Black men resign themselves to inferior positions, it should not come as a surprise. It is what White Americans have been teaching Black Americans to think about themselves for centuries.

It is so internalized some Black men not only believe it about themselves they also project their sense of inferiority on other Black men and women. Thus they like to unfavorably compare Black men to White men, or worse invent reasons why a Black men and women cannot succeed. The frightening thing about it is many of the worse offenders consider themselves to have the best interest of the Black community in mind, while simultaneously attempting to de-constructively criticize it at every turn.

These are not the type of people who will be on the ground floor building anything. Their imaginations are stifled by their own delusions of inferiority. They do not have the vision to see the success unless they are somehow exposed to success. These brothers do not like to be preached to, and they are easily threatened by the success of other Black men, so the best solution is to leave them be. Instead it is ideal to surround one self with people who are not threatened by innovation and success. People who desire more for themselves are willing to make greater sacrifices.

Black Americans are at a point where we do not need to rely on White Americans. We simply need to stop putting our money into the pockets of other groups, and put it back into our own pockets. If Black Americans put just 40% of their money back in Black hands it would make a tremendous difference. Not even 80% just 40%. It doesn't have to start on some big online twitter hashtag movement. It can simply be someone starting a business in their own community and having people they know patronize it. Everyone is not meant to be a business owner, but anyone can choose to patronize a Black business.

Complacency is a good word. Many Black Americans are comfortable with the status quo. They enjoy a second class citizenship in what can be described as a police state, simply because they do not know any better due to lack of education. However this complacency is cyclical. It cannot last indefinitely. People are starting to get tired of it. It is not visible on the internet because people online generally voice complaints rather than participate in any activism.

The best advice for someone trying to make a difference in their own community would be to join service organizations and community organizations. Connecting to people who want to make a difference is one of the best ways of learning how to make a difference. Opportunities will present themselves for those who have the determination to change themselves.

 

[BrandonBanks]

Women allow a lot of black men to be. nikkas know that working a menial job, having a decent car, the latest jordans, A gold chain and some polo is enough to attract most black women and that a dikk game is enough to keep em. As a result they get that and become complacent. A lot of black women are also intimidated by educated, self sufficient black men. And I'm not talking about rich men. I mean those who are socially aware and attentive. Black women like to be in control and see nikkas like that as too boring, challenging or arrogant. You can try and drop gems on em and they'll think you're just talking shyt or being a know it all. An athlete or rapper might have money, fame etc. but a lot of them are still unintelligent. Women know this and prey on them for that reason knowing that p*ssy is enough to have them wrapped around their fingers. It's the control they want.

But yea most men do what they do to obtain women, start a family etc. it's the sad reality. If black women held the average nikka to a hire standard , the average nikka would strive for more.

Black women have to show us how to create jobs?

Whether a man is a family man or a lifelong bachelor, we shouldn't need women to teach us how to create jobs and employ people

 

[Ohene]

Black women have to show us how to create jobs?

Whether a man is a family man or a lifelong bachelor, we shouldn't need women to teach us how to create jobs and employ people

I agree but ppl have needs. Complacence isnt only about not having a role model to lead by example, its also about ambition and motivation. Most nikkas dont have the ambition to strive that much and work that hard because in their mind there isnt a benefit.

Why go to school, learn how to start a business, invest hard earned money, fail, rinse and repeat and be broke / lonely until I'm successful when its the nikka working a factory job and selling weed on the side getting all the bytches, poppin all the bottles, driving the nice car, sitting in a nice condo etc? I know nikkas dead because they couldnt shake that mentality and nikkas flourishing with the same mentality. Makes it hard for the square nikka to be on a straight/narrow.

 

[Skrilla]

Black women have to show us how to create jobs?

According to most of the black men i've talked to about this, yes

 

[Dreamzeedream]

Women allow a lot of black men to be. nikkas know that working a menial job, having a decent car, the latest jordans, A gold chain and some polo is enough to attract most black women and that a dikk game is enough to keep em. As a result they get that and become complacent. A lot of black women are also intimidated by educated, self sufficient black men. And I'm not talking about rich men. I mean those who are socially aware and attentive. Black women like to be in control and see nikkas like that as too boring, challenging or arrogant. You can try and drop gems on em and they'll think you're just talking shyt or being a know it all. An athlete or rapper might have money, fame etc. but a lot of them are still unintelligent. Women know this and prey on them for that reason knowing that p*ssy is enough to have them wrapped around their fingers. It's the control they want.

But yea most men do what they do to obtain women, start a family etc. it's the sad reality. If black women held the average nikka to a hire standard , the average nikka would strive for more.

Thats a problem 2.Everything a man does in life shouldn't be about p*ssy

 

[Ohene]

Thats a problem 2.Everything a man does in life shouldn't be about p*ssy

sad reality but its fair. at the root, sex is a physiological need. and then beneath the surface everyone wants love/companionship

 

[BlackManLiveFromLondon]

According to most of the black men i've talked to about this, yes

Thats what happens in a community where (for AAs) its matriarchy that calls the shots for the most part

 

[iFightSeagullsForBread]

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