Libya is in worst shape now than when Gaddafi was in charge

[Dat Migo]

be a dumbass use a jayz reference for a retort and think you're saying something highly fruitful breh

Why you aggy?

 

[Trajan]

As despicable and evil as Gaddafi was, the people who didn't want him were smacking him around and shoving a gun up his ass before they killed him. What difference is there between him and them? Saudi uprising was a minor one concerning a few shiites who are not even a fifth of the population. Then you had some other small groups too, it was nothing on the scale of the other countries. Bahrain on the other hand was from people who constituted the majority. I never said their people want the leader. My point is people who are very violent by nature can only be controlled by a more violent and more tyrannical force, as in with Saddam, Saudis, etc.

They were militia members...does that mean every Libyan is a wild beast

Blackwater was acting the fukk up in Iraq....hell you had regular army soldiers raping young teenage girls...are all Americans wild beasts who need a dictator?

The nerve of this guy lol.

 

[thekingsmen]

How about I flip it on you, and ask you to prove why Gaddafi would be any better than the other Arab oil monarchs, who have also done a lot of reform for their countries, using their wealth to provide the people with free education and healthcare, funding marriages, providing housing with interest free loans etc.?

Do you consider those Arab oil monarchs as good people too for their reforms in their country? ALL were opposed to Gaddafi and funded/aided with his removal.

I don't need to prove anything since you were the one with the accusations and couldn't back it up.
Oil monarchs aren't good people because they see personal gain and not the people's gain, they aren't there to reform their country because the people but reform to make their gains in power.

 

[wingzboy]

I don't need to prove anything since you were the one with the accusations and couldn't back it up.
Oil monarchs aren't good people because they see personal gain and not the people's gain, they aren't there to reform their country because the people but reform to make their gains in power.

Yeah Gaddafi got one son buying him a place in a top European football team despite his wack skills, another paying mills for beyonce and fif to perform privately on his yacht, another in Germany splurging with his model GF and causing a ruckus beating up bouncers because they wouldn't let his GF strip, sounds like no personal gain there right?

You now made counterclaims about Gaddafi being different than other Arab leaders and you can't substantiate it with any evidence. All of the above is documented but I am sure you will refute that because it is just Western media lies right? Despite one son actually playing in Juventus and fif personally shouting them out on a mixtape for the sum paid for his 1 hour performance.

Get off that conspiracy bs breh, it ain't a good look.

 

[thekingsmen]

Yeah Gaddafi got one son buying him a place in a top European football team despite his wack skills, another paying mills for beyonce and fif to perform privately on his yacht, another in Germany splurging with his model GF and causing a ruckus beating up bouncers because they wouldn't let his GF strip, sounds like no personal gain there right?

You now made counterclaims about Gaddafi being different than other Arab leaders and you can't substantiate it with any evidence. All of the above is documented but I am sure you will refute that because it is just Western media lies right? Despite one son actually playing in Juventus and fif personally shouting them out on a mixtape for the sum paid for his 1 hour performance.

Get off that conspiracy bs breh, it ain't a good look.

1. What does his sons lifestyles have to do with the Libyan Nation? Irrelevant, strawman argument.
2. I made counter-claims yes but you can easily read up on his work in Africa on-line with the proper good journalist outline.

Keep trying.

 

[wingzboy]

1. What does his sons lifestyles have to do with the Libyan Nation? Irrelevant, strawman argument.
2. I made counter-claims yes but you can easily read up on his work in Africa on-line with the proper good journalist outline.

Keep trying.

1. It shows you how there's a blurred line between the state coffers and his own. Anywhere in the developed world a politician would be subjected to all kinds of investigations if they ortheir family are caught splurging money that should be for the state.

But no, Gaddafi was an entrepreneur too right? Brought the revolution and was a successful hustler that allow him to enrich his family fairly.

Stop trying to romanticize corrupt dictators breh. All of the Middle east had guys who did what Gaddafi did and on even a grander scale. Go read up on the benefits Kuwaitis, Emiratis, Qataris etc. receive, significantly more than any other Libyan, based on your logic those leaders were legit based on what they did for their countries.

 

[Starman]

Ok the pres is a dictator and makes all decisions on his own. Stupid.

Plus, hes half white.

What kind of false choice is this? You're saying the President is either a puppet or a dictator, and I'm stupid? Then you bring up him being half white as if to say, what? That it's his "cac" side got the country involved in Libya?

 

[thekingsmen]

1. It shows you how there's a blurred line between the state coffers and his own. Anywhere in the developed world a politician would be subjected to all kinds of investigations if they ortheir family are caught splurging money that should be for the state.

But no, Gaddafi was an entrepreneur too right? Brought the revolution and was a successful hustler that allow him to enrich his family fairly.

Stop trying to romanticize corrupt dictators breh. All of the Middle east had guys who did what Gaddafi did and on even a grander scale. Go read up on the benefits Kuwaitis, Emiratis, Qataris etc. receive, significantly more than any other Libyan, based on your logic those leaders were legit based on what they did for their countries.

1. I have no blurred line because he's son's in Europe weren't in political position. Which is irrelevant since every Libyan get's a monthly allowance.

2. Entrepreneur is right....but I don't think you know the definition

3. You haven't proved him to be a dictator yet breh. Name those M.E. guys. Look at their population, education, healthcare, housing and let me know.

4. They did nothing for the people, everything for themselves and profit.

You stay failing homie.

 

[wingzboy]

1. I have no blurred line because he's son's in Europe weren't in political position. Which is irrelevant since every Libyan get's a monthly allowance.

2. Entrepreneur is right....but I don't think you know the definition

3. You haven't proved him to be a dictator yet breh. Name those M.E. guys. Look at their population, education, healthcare, housing and let me know.

4. They did nothing for the people, everything for themselves and profit.

You stay failing homie.

Every Libyan receives a monthly allowance?? ? His son spending money like billionaires is irrelevant because they weren't in political positions?


I hope you you ain't spewing this bs off the coli breh, you gon embarrass yourself and black people.

 

[wingzboy]

What kind of false choice is this? You're saying the President is either a puppet or a dictator, and I'm stupid? Then you bring up him being half white as if to say, what? That it's his "cac" side got the country involved in Libya?

nikkaz on here on some real life fantasy shyt. I actually was expecting legit arguments only to find out I'm dealing with a bunch of conspiracy theorists.

 

[thekingsmen]

Every Libyan receives a monthly allowance?? ? His son spending money like billionaires is irrelevant because they weren't in political positions?


I hope you you ain't spewing this bs off the coli breh, you gon embarrass yourself and black people.

You seem bent on your strawman argument cause you lost the original argument earlier. Educated yourself before coming into debating me about this issue. You clearly aren't educated enough. This is why you have avoided many of my points and questions. You nitpick what you want to talk about and you stay on it.

 

[wingzboy]

You seem bent on your strawman argument cause you lost the original argument earlier. Educated yourself before coming into debating me about this issue. You clearly aren't educated enough. This is why you have avoided many of my points and questions. You nitpick what you want to talk about and you stay on it.

The fact that you can't comprehend why a state needs to have defined lines between the state coffers and what the leader earns is enough to tell me that it is a lost cause trying to debate with you breh. You need to understand how a state is meant to function, transparency in governance, checks and balances and the separation of powers before you are able to argue what is a good leader or not. How can you argue any regions politics when your information is lacking on the basics of different models of governance? I provide you with examples and you constantly misconstrue the point I am trying to drive home, it's like I have to spell out each example and why it is an example of a "failure".

 

[Crakface]

What kind of false choice is this? You're saying the President is either a puppet or a dictator, and I'm stupid? Then you bring up him being half white as if to say, what? That it's his "cac" side got the country involved in Libya?

You're saying the president is a dictator by saying this is all Obama doing and brining up some shyt people said on the Internet damn near a decade ago. Im using sarcasm to showcase your stupidity.

 

[Mac Man]

Let me leave this here since wingzboy seems intent to run away from this thread and take the debate elsewhere.

When did Gaddafi say blacks are nothing more than slaves? Bring me that quote asap cac, quick go fetch it before you make me mad and I neg you again.

I ain't mad, i just saw you analyzing bieber and mayweather's relationship, and observed you have a tendency for enjoying c00nish behavior and take pride in being a c00n.

You are mad, no let me explain whatyoudidwuz

Checked your alerts

Got mad

Searched my posts

Saw a troll post

and thought you would attack me over

I troll in the locker room, you troll in 'Higher Learning'

I ain't mad, i just saw you analyzing bieber and mayweather's relationship, and observed you have a tendency for enjoying c00nish behavior and take pride in being a c00n.

Really? Really?

You don't know shyt about Africa you c00n. You are a descendant of the nikkaz who smiled at the cacs when they invaded Africa, invited them to fukk their women, made them goat porridge to take with them on the journey to the Americas, helped them chain nikkaz onto the ships then chaining themselves for the trip.

Only a c00n worships a sand nikka leader who views blacks as nothing more than slaves. Go suck some more sand nikka slave master dikk you c00n

Ok @wingzboy please continue

 

[wingzboy]

Let me leave this here since wingzboy seems intent to run away from this thread and take the debate elsewhere.

When did Gaddafi say blacks are nothing more than slaves? Bring me that quote asap cac, quick go fetch it before you make me mad and I neg you again.




You are mad, no let me explain whatyoudidwuz

Checked your alerts

Got mad

Searched my posts

Saw a troll post

and thought you would attack me over

I troll in the locker room, you troll in 'Higher Learning'


Really? Really?









Ok @wingzboy please continue

I ain't reading all that shyt c00n. Go find you another sand nikka to worship as Africa's savior phaggot, sure he'll love you more than cacs in USA right?