Lil Wayne Fans Are Rewriting History

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It's actually true.

Ludacris had like two albums that were triple platinum and two others that were double platinum from 2000-2005. Wayne wasn't multi-platinum until Carter 3. Wayne wasn't even double platinum. Platinum was his ceiling.
All those records sold and no one cares about him anymore nor do they mention him amongst the greats. 🥹🥹🥹
 

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On the e-streets of SOHH Wayne's year was 2008 (along with T-Pain). Before that it was Nas, Jay-Z, 50 Cent and G-Unit, The Game, Kanye and even Prodigy and Dipset. T.I., Luda, Jeezy and Ross were making noise in the south. Wayne was undeniable after C3, but aint no one gave a fukk about a C2 like that unless you were in the deep south. Rap game has always been about dikkriding, Wayne started showing up on A-list albums heavy around 2008.
 

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That's BS. They knew Wayne was a star too and were pushing him as hard as Juve and B.G

On CMR's first Universal release How U Luv That Wayne is all over that album. He's on 10/11 songs which is more than half the album

Juvenile said he knew he had to get Wayne on Back That Azz Up in some fashion

Wayne doesn't have a verse on the album version of Bling Bling but he's the reason for the hook. There's no Bling Bling without him



This man knows his history and his shyt. Nothing but facts. Wayne was the verse everyone was waiting for back then. He'd get on a verse on Juvy or B.G. shyt and would murder that shyt. Hide Out Or Ride Out and Cutlass, Monte Carlos, and Regals are two of my favorite Wayne verses. People really don't understand how many verses of his turned into choruses for other CMR tracks.



Wayne floated on this shyt :banderas:


Salute to nikkas that actually know what they’re talking about …

As a Cash Money stan before they even got the deal, the whole rap on Wayne was him being so talented so young…and they were presenting him as the “next big thing” from pretty much the moment they broke nationally….BG was the guy before the deal but started to fall off almost immediately after the universal signing…Juve was the clear cut breakout superstar, but by the TBIH dropped Wayne was the 2nd biggest solo act on the label and outselling BG in real time…by the time Checkmate and Lights Out dropped, it wasn’t even a second thought who the better rapper was…they were headed different directions….the absolute peak of that era of CMR was the arena tour with Ruff Ryders, and they had a whole segment of the show dedicated to highlighting Wayne
This thread all over the place...

Wayne pre-03, meaning pre-Sqad Up tapes, wasn't seen as anything special unless you were a diehard CMB guy or Nola local...

Sqad Up put him on where he generated a little buzz, but the real "kick in the door" moment was Tha Carter, that was Summer 2004. It was his best work to that point of his career (still is among his best) and put him on a national stage as a soloist. He kept building on that momentum for the following years...

So Wayne as a mid-level, noted rapper began in 2004, and him burgeoning into a superstar, household name occurred sometime around Carter II (late '05) and Dedication 2 (early '06). I'll say this, online accounts credit D2 as dropping in May '06 but for a fact I first heard that tape in March '06. He was riding the momentum of D1 (Summer '05) and C2 and then dropped the tape around March and that shyt INSTANTLY lit the streets on fire...

Again he'd been bubbling since Summer '04, steady rising in profile, but when Dedication 2 dropped? That was when you knew this nikka was something different, he was an entirely different rapper than he was in the first 8 years or so of his career...

Anyone saying they knew Wayne was gonna be a GOAT before '04 or '03 at the earliest, is lying...

I’d agree with most of this timeline far as popularity…except for the last line in bold in regards to when cats started hyping him as a legit beast….the beginning of Wayne going from being seen as “young star with potential” to “this nikka might be the coldest in the game” and the formation of his OG stanbase 100% started with the Sqad tapes…them shyts basically help pay for my caprice :russ:….. ”mixtape Wayne” basically became a thing when this dropped…to where they started playing his mixtape freestyles in clubs and at sets/sips/functions like the shyt was a official single

 

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this is one of the most miserable hip hop forums I’ve seen…no appreciation for anything outside of what’s “hot” at the moment and even that’s a little bit of a stretch
 

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If somebody who is from that region says Wayne was always that dude I’ll take their word for it. I know up here most of us had never even heard of Cash Money till Ha. Juvie and BG instantly became those dudes in 99.

Wayne had a little popularity but he was kinda irrelevant until he started dropping those Squad Up mixtapes. He started bubbling a little bit and then he dropped C1. But what really made Wayne a superstar was that 05-06 run when he dropped C2, Dedication 2 and Like Father Like Son
 

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If somebody who is from that region says Wayne was always that dude I’ll take their word for it. I know up here most of us had never even heard of Cash Money till Ha. Juvie and BG instantly became those dudes in 99.

Wayne had a little popularity but he was kinda irrelevant until he started dropping those Squad Up mixtapes. He started bubbling a little bit and then he dropped C1. But what really made Wayne a superstar was that 05-06 run when he dropped C2, Dedication 2 and Like Father Like Son

Yeah nobody in my circle was up on Cash Money until 400 Degreez

From where I was sitting, Juve was the biggest star by far in 1999, BG and Wayne was on the same tier below him, Turk below them and the order of the solo album drops reflect that. Dudes from down south always credit BG as the one who really took off regionally and put them in position for the Universal deal, I always heard that, not gonna dispute

Wayne was kind of a novelty because he was a kid rapper in a grown crew, spitting about adult shyt so that was unique. I know BG was like that at first too but was like 19 when they took off nationally

Wayne did steal the show on the radio and video version of Bling Bling. You could tell he had some unique talent and charisma. Tha Block Is Hot was a solid debut. But he wasn't really taken seriously like that until years later

I do remember hearing this track and thinking he could really be something though

 

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Wayne, got his props because he was rapping 'gangsta' shyt and not cursing. To be so young and rapping with that amount of substance about the streets without cursing was impressive at his age "in real" time. That also was one of BG's gifts too, but he was much raw and direct with it, nobody at their age "in real" time was doing such down here in fact around the world. Wayne would make sounds, have word play, good metaphors to go along with what he was trying to convey in his rhymes, that's what made him catch people's attention down here at an early age.

Wayne rhymes pre-carter and squad up were clever, witty, catchy and painted a picture that his peers could relate and understand, that was another reason why he was considered good.

Folks tend to leave out the climate of that 96-2000 era, how many dope rappers that were in the game, especially down here. Wayne wasn't on anybody's Top 50 list in those times. As folks stated, he wasn't even the best one in his own group. Again, not taking away from his talent, but in the same breath folks would tell you down here that his verse on ANYTHING that he was on that came out at the time was never skipped.

Most if not all of his verse were memorized and quoted at school or around the way.

As a breh said, Squad up Wayne was when folks, especially his diehard fans started to look at Wayne in a different light. He started to turn that corner. I remember folks were like, Wayne is about to be a problem,, folks were saying "Wayne got Juvie" but again in the same breath folks were like can he put it all together and make a good album,, this was in the midst of that 500 degrees 600 degree era, with a dash of squad up Wayne.

The Carter 1 leaked, and the songs I heard were night and day from how he was rapping on them Squad tapes, Baby scrapped the album and made him do it all over again and had him keep that style he was on. Even Baby knew Wayne was turning the corner

I remember when Carter 1 dropped and Rap City had the basketball player Keyon Martin on there as a guest and Tigger asked him to name his top 2 or 3 albums, I can't remember what he all named, but I do remember him telling Tigger, Carter 1, and he gave a stank look, like, you need to be on it. He even said that was what he was bumping day and night. He looked in the camera and told the world, go get that Carter 1 lol

I remember that, because I too couldn't take that CD outta my CD deck. That was the only thing I was bumping at the time.
 

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400 came out in late 1998 it just didnt hit until 1999. CCITG dropped in 99

The OG Chopper City was in 1996
Yessir I still have both copies of 400 Degreez. The OG press without Follow Me Now and Ha Remixes and the Universal version.
I remember the Soundwaves on S. Main (RIP to Soundwaves..one of the southside H-Town staples) had it back then and no one touched it. Back then especially in Houston people were bangin that UGK-Trill Azz Mixez like crazy and I picked up both. Loved the album (400) immediately but it didnt become a problem until almost 3-4 months later when Back That Azz Up dropped the shyt went crazy. Ha (the single) got them noticed but BTAU made them everyone pay attention and made them a national attention powerhouse.

Also I can't state this enough. Those Sqad Up mixtapes were legendary. Wayne took his lyricism to a whole nutha level when those shyts dropped. I remember Dipset was dropping their mixtapes back then (AudioGalaxy days for me) and they were garnering a lot of the attention but Wayne was dropping his as well. His were flying under the radar but the true fans of his knew Wayne was becoming a major issue.
This shyt here on SQ4...:banderas:
 

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this is one of the most miserable hip hop forums I’ve seen…no appreciation for anything outside of what’s “hot” at the moment and even that’s a little bit of a stretch

Lol there’s no way you’re serious. I average KTT2, Reddit, boxden and all of them are the same. Literally!
 
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