Lil Wayne is a legit contender for top 10 rapper all-time

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Give me legit reasons why Wayne isn't a contender for top 10 all time. Not saying IS but how is he not in consideration?
He doesnt have that universally acclaimed classic, he is hands down top 10 most influential and top 10 most popular.. but when youre talking about the actual music aspect of it?:patrice:

his best album is carter 2 and nikkas dont even bring that up when they mention the greatest albums
 

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Please, popularity matters. You can try to deny it all you want, but every nikka in universally debated top 10s have some sort of popularity on a certain scale.

We already covered this.

First off this argument is stupid as fukk. What does his best material comparing to Jay and Nas have to do with the cost of sugar in Japan? nikkas just making arguments that don't even make sense.

It doesn't make sense because you've gone into retard mode. OF COURSE IT MATTERS.

When you say, "so and so is among the best of the genre", that person is being compared to other greats in that genre. WHY WOULDN'T THEY BE?

:mindblown:

I love how you haven't posted a single Wayne song that can fukk with Nas/Jay-Z/Rakim/etc best material. I knew that would happen. You have no receipts.

LOL I'm dying thinking I give a flying fukk how you feel about my subsequent post.

and thus, caught with your pants down, you get defensive.

Again, I never said Wayne IS top 10 all time, because he's personally not in mine. He'd be in my top 20 tho. But you can make a legit ARGUMENT for him being in it. I already laid out way.

Cool. Rocky is in my top 10 favorite rappers ever off Live.Love.ASAP alone. In the sense that I listen to songs off that mixtape more than most rappers I've ever bumped.

Do I think Rocky is even top 100 nicest dudes to ever rap? :deadrose: Cmon nikka. You have to attempt some sort of objectivity. Or else this thread becomes completely pointless.

Your argument is nowhere near legit and you're backing down from dudes like myself who are testing you.

A legit argument has to stand up to the most basic elements of scrutiny. You say Weezy could be considered top 10? Prove it. What material of his is top 10 "whoa" hip hop material?
 

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He doesnt have that universally acclaimed classic, he is hands down top 10 most influential and top 10 most popular.. but when youre talking about the actual music aspect of it?:patrice:

his best album is carter 2 and nikkas dont even bring that up when they mention the greatest albums

You don't have to have a universally acclaimed classic to be a top 10 rapper. Since when was that criteria? Kool G Rap doesn't have one and he's number 3 or 4 all time to me. Andre 3000 has no solo classics he's in a lot of people top 10. Big L don't got one. Jadakiss don't got one. And they're always in people's top 10s.

A lot of rappers that are all-time greats don't have albums that come up when mentioning the best of all-time.
 

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Y'all just being stubborn and or old. I don't like 2PAC at ALL, but I'd be silly to say you can't make an argument for him being a top 10 rapper of all-time

Y'all letting personal bias, misdirected "real hip hop" posturing and nostalgia cloud your judgments

Now you're comparing Pac to Lil Wayne? Did you even understand Pac's music?

Holy shyt you're talking out your ass. And I'm not even a Pac fan like that.

Just log off. Come back after a little while.
 

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think right now Drake = peak Wayne popularity, maybe suppressed him

I dont think Drake has reached Wayne's peak popularity yet.

Out of curiosity though who out of these is Wayne better than?

2 Pac
KRS-One
Nas
Jay Z
Biggie
Rakim
Big Daddy Kane
Ice Cube
Scarface
Slick Rick
Kool G Rap
Big Pun
AZ
Guru

Common
Chuck
Raekwon
Ghostface
LL Cool J
Prodigy


To name but a few, so I don't see how it's possible, there's around 20 MC's there and it's only scratching the surface, is Wayne better than 10 of those MC's listed? Not to me.

He has shyt I fukk with though and he's got some good work but I don't think it reaches that elite level to make him a top 10.

Wayne can rap circles around most of those people, most of the people on your list would get their ass handed to them by most rappers nowadays.
 

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He doesnt have that universally acclaimed classic, he is hands down top 10 most influential and top 10 most popular.. but when youre talking about the actual music aspect of it?:patrice:

his best album is carter 2 and nikkas dont even bring that up when they mention the greatest albums
His influence in the game is too large for him not to be considered everybody from chance, to kendrick will note wayne as their biggest influence
Wayne for 5 years had the rap game on a chokehold...he has classic mixtape series, he has one of if not the largest catalogs in rap of all time, he was killing every beat on every feature he did, he's been relevant for over a decade, I mean sht need I say more dawg...
 

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I dont think Drake has reached Wayne's peak popularity yet.



Wayne can rap circles around most of those people, most of the people on your list would get their ass handed to them by most rappers nowadays.
But jay has alrdy been on tracks with wayne and drske and has murked em each time they spit on the same track tho :ohhh:
 

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We already covered this.



It doesn't make sense because you've gone into retard mode. OF COURSE IT MATTERS.

When you say, "so and so is among the best of the genre", that person is being compared to other greats in that genre. WHY WOULDN'T THEY BE?

:mindblown:

I love how you haven't posted a single Wayne song that can fukk with Nas/Jay-Z/Rakim/etc best material. I knew that would happen. You have no receipts.



and thus, caught with your pants down, you get defensive.



Cool. Rocky is in my top 10 favorite rappers ever off Live.Love.ASAP alone. In the sense that I listen to songs off that mixtape more than most rappers I've ever bumped.

Do I think Rocky is even top 100 nicest dudes to ever rap? :deadrose: Cmon nikka. You have to attempt some sort of objectivity. Or else this thread becomes completely pointless.

Your argument is nowhere near legit and you're backing down from dudes like myself who are testing you.

A legit argument has to stand up to the most basic elements of scrutiny. You say Weezy could be considered top 10? Prove it. What material of his is top 10 "whoa" hip hop material?

It doesn't make sense because it doesn't make sense. You've made this criteria that "If you don't have a song as good as Jay and Nas best you aren't top 10" out of thin air and it's bullshyt and you know it. You pulled that out your ass. That shyt doesn't even make sense as a legit talking point. I'm not posting any songs because it's fukking pointless on many levels. First off, I post one, you say you disagree, I say you're wrong and what exactly does that prove? Lol. Secondly, having songs as good as Jay and Nas is nearly impossible. Those are arguably the two greatest rappers ever. Most rappers in my top 10 won't have songs as good as their best. So that argument is stupid on it's face.

What does top 100 nicest have to do with anything? I said all-time great rapper because you have to encompass so many factors. Just skill wise isn't the argument. It's EVERYTHING. Influence, populairty, skill, catalog of music, longevity.

I haven't backed down once, you're talking out of your ass.
 

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Now you're comparing Pac to Lil Wayne? Did you even understand Pac's music?

Holy shyt you're talking out your ass. And I'm not even a Pac fan like that.

Just log off. Come back after a little while.
Suck my dikk fakkit. How about that?

I don't play that condescending shyt. You want to have a logic debate let's have one, all that slick talk right now, you can kick rocks little nikka.
 
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