List of African Empires that ended only 100 years ago

[YvrzTrvly]

they actually have a cure for it now, by genetically engineering the mosquito to be sterile and significantly reduce their population. Theyre trying to confirm whether wiping out a species is ethical or not.

Im not sure u are as informed as you think you are my friend

There are multiple types, multiple carriers, and ethical genocide huh

 

[Menelik II]

Im not sure u are as informed as you think you are my friend

There are multiple types, multiple carriers, and ethical genocide huh

you obviously don't have any idea about the technology i'm talking about.

and its not 'genocide', genocide refers to human beings not the animal kingdom. but ill let you cook in your ignorance

 

[Warren Moon]

Imagine getting teased ur whole life and talkin shyt=white supremacy

 

[The Odum of Ala Igbo]

White dominance over Africa begun when a cure for malaria was discovered, until then Europeans could not go inland without risking death. This was developed during the mid-1800s.

Depends where in Africa though. The French conquered Algeria in 1830. Europeans were seizing vast areas of land in what is now South Africa prior to the late 19th century. Angola began to be conquered by the Portuguese starting in the 1600s. Hell, a British expedition in 1868 defeated an Ethiopian Emperor and prompted his suicide. British Expedition to Abyssinia - Wikipedia

All of y'all should check out the Peopling of Africa thread in the Root (The Peopling of Africa)

We're discussing how African ethnic groups and societies came to be. We've finished up Central Africa, Horn of Africa, Southern Africa and the Interior of East Africa. New entries on West Africa and North Africa are coming soon.

 

[UpAndComing]

A large portion of those empires were only empires due to the slave trade bro

Yeah, I can tell you have no idea what you're talking about

 

[Poitier]

Yeah, I can tell you have no idea what you're talking about

you're clueless as hell

 

[MR. SNIFLES]

you obviously don't have any idea about the technology i'm talking about.

and its not 'genocide', genocide refers to human beings not the animal kingdom. but ill let you cook in your ignorance

GONNA GIVE THE ASSIST ON THIS ONE.

noun
1.
the policy of deliberately killing a nationality or ethnic group
Derived Forms
genocidal, adjective
Word Origin
C20: from geno-, from Greek genos race + -cide

 

[The Odum of Ala Igbo]

Yeah, I can tell you have no idea what you're talking about

@Poitier has a point...

 

[The Odum of Ala Igbo]

From the 'Peopling of Africa' thread The Peopling of Africa:
@UpAndComing
Kanem

The synthesis of Nilo-Saharans and Afro-Asiatics led to the formation of the Kanuri people. The founders of Kanem with its capital at Njimi. Their agricultural economy and salt mines at Bilma was the foundation of their wealth. Kanem became regularly involved in the Trans-Saharan trade around the 11th century CE. The caravans left Kanem to Fezzan on their way to Tripoli to exchange slaves for horses. Horses were needed to form cavalry contingents. Since Kanem had no gold, slaves were the priciest 'commodity' they could offer to the North Africans.

City-state of Warri

But by the end of the 18th century, Oyo was losing its grip owing to internal discord and a declining economy. Several former tributes in the Delta (such as Itsekiri dominated Warri) broke away on the strength of slave trade profits. Oyo also lost some territories to the Dahomey kingdom

Dahomey

• Dahomey's emergence is tied to the growth of the slave trade. Commercial activity gave rise to the Aja state of Allada. It controlled slave routes north and south and routes to and from Oyo. Allada eventually lost out to other competitors like Whydah, all of which were swallowed up by the Fon kingdom of Dahomey, where the Gbe speakers centralized their kingship and made it militaristic. Muskets helped too. Whydah was overrun in the 1720s along with Allada. The conquest caused a lot of economic disruption and population loss which prevented Dahomey from immediately assuming dominance. When it did restore order, it became one of the major pre-colonial powers in Africa.

West Africa in general

• In the 18th century, the Trans-Atlantic Slave trade became more concentrated. After the Asante ran out of Akan peoples to sell, they turned to Gur groups. Many of them suffered major population declines. Invasions by Dahomey made the Aja lose 3 per cent of their population annually for 40 years. Raids in the Cross River Delta area depopualted upper portions of the river valley, while the Igbo (under the Aro) became major slave traders. Some groups disappeared. Other groups grew. It was through this process that the Hausa, Asante, Fon, Yoruba and Igbo gained regional dominance.

 

[The Odum of Ala Igbo]

Slavery and the rise of African states, cont'd

Aksum and Nubia

• Decline soon set in. Egypt's declining prosperity hurt Mediterrenean trade. Aksum also launched an invasion into Upper Nubia in 350 CE to control commodities like gold, oils, fragrances, access to the Red Sea and peoples who could be enslaved. Nomadic incursions by the Beja hurt too. Rome moved its settlers away from the nomadic raiders, north of the First Cataract out of fear.

Fatimid Egypt

• Egypt's population slide continued until the 8th century when they reached 2-2.25 million people. Turmoil of both religious and political kinds were endemic. Plus, outbreaks of disease and low Nile floods made life precarious. The population began to slowly rise again with new agricultural crops like rice, bananas, sugar cane and eggplant. Conditions improved further under the Fatimid Dynasty. They built Cairo as their capital and Egypt became central in the Arab World. Goods went to Southern China, India, Ethiopia and West Africa. Slaves increasingly were 'exported' into Egypt. However, the Fatimids put pressure on the Christian population to convert. Sunnis also faced discrimination because the Fatimids were Ismaili Shi'ites.

Morocco

• Morocco was an independent state divided between Arab lowlands and Berber mountains. It tried on a few occasions to establish a Trans-Saharan kingdom to access gold and slaves. As such, Morocco absorbed much Sahelian and Sudanic culture and genetics.

Songhai

• Songhai was quite wealthy. The salt trade was very profitable. Demand for gold and slaves from Portugal, Genoa, Venice, Naples and Sicily intensified their riches. Goods like glass and copper wares, cloth and perfumes cam in. Horses were imported too for their chain mail cavalry. Timbuktu attracted scholars of astrology, astronomy, medicine, Arabic grammar, rhetoric, history, geography and Quranic studies.

 

[The Odum of Ala Igbo]

Fulani expansion in West Africa

• By the 1700s, declining economic fortunes mixed with concerns about Islam in the region. The Mossi states, Nupeland, Adamawa and other large areas were non-Muslim. These conditions were ripe for jihad. The first under the Fulbe occurred in 1725-26 in Futa Djallon. It became a Fulbe conquest of the region and the Dyalonke fled to refuges in the hills. Others who did not escape were sold into slavery

The Lozi

• The Lozi controlled slightly elevated areas in the Zambezi floodplain. They then gained access to tsetse free pastureland for their cattle. With this cattle wealth, they spread their influence through military conquests which extracted slaves and created tribute-satellites.

The Kingdom of Kongo

• By 1514, slaves were exported from Kongo. First, ivory and beeswax was used to pay for textiles, alcohol, tobacco and metals - but they were too little in value. Slaves were sold off instead such as servants or criminals. They then turned to their neighbours. Teke, a Tio Kingdom, was a source for Kongo's slaves. These slaves later served in sugar plantations on Sao Tome and Principle until Brazilian competition and a slave revolt in 1574 ended the plantation economy there.
• Slavery began to weaken the authority of Kongo's elites as the Pombeiros grew more powerful. Factions arose among the upper clases. Furthermore, the Portuguese colony as Angola became a rival. This was worsened as the Jaga began raiding. They were an Ovimbundu warrior class initially. Another Jaga called the Tio raided Kongo territory in 1568. The Portuguese had to intervene to prevent the rule of the Kongo's king from collapsing.
• The economic competition between Kongo and Angola became a series of war between 1622-72. When it was over, the Kongo was finished as a regional power.
• The search for slaves continued farther and farther from the coast. The Kasanye Kingdom formed as a mixture of Imbangala and Mbundu and it became a trading entrepot. By the early 19th century, raiders were reaching the Lunda kingdom and invading from the south.
• New ethnicities formed as villages south to protect their lives and their trading interests from the slave-raiders. The Bobangi were the most active traders - they controlled river traffic in their caoes from the Ubangi down to the Malebo Pool. Others like the Likuba, Likwala and Bonga formed too.
• By the late 18th century, refugees becamea steady stream of slaves headed for Brazil from the port of Benguela. A smallpox epidemic in 1800 and 1805 further reduced resistance.

 

[#SOG_soldier]

This is true. African colonization picks up around 1880s. I thought everyone knew that tho.

 

[The Odum of Ala Igbo]

Adal Sultanate

• Conflicts in the early decades of the 15th century erupted between Ethiopia and Adal, a Muslim state that was never brought under its orbit. Adal began to take territory from the Ethiopians along with numerous captives to sell as slaves. No side was dominant until the aid of Somali and Afar recruits starting in 1529 launched a massive jihad into the heart of Ethiopia. Christian armies were driven up into the mountain refuges within two years. Crucial to the invaders success was Ottoman support, mostly in the form of modern artillery.

Ethiopian Era of Princes

• But the court was decimated because of the Oromo. Numerous warlords controlled the land - whether of Amharic, Tigrayan or Oromo origin. Slaves and coffee still flowed from the interior to Muslim ports on the coast.

Afrikaner expansion in South Africa

They had an extraordinary rate of natural increase. Frontier families, Trekboers, had 10 or more living children. Access to rich land, a relatively disease free environment and the labour of Coloured/Black slaves helped their increase.

 

[The Odum of Ala Igbo]

Swahili states

• Each town was autonomous and sent ivory, ambergris, tortoise shell, leopard skins, mangrove poles, gold and slaves to Arabia, India and Southern Iraq. Imports consisted of cotton, beads and chinaware.

 

[UpAndComing]

Swahili states

Poiter's quote

"A large portion of those empires were only empires due to the slave trade bro"



My reply to Poiter was that he said Slavery was their only source and commodity which were the ONLY reason these African empires were still standing. I never denied that they never participated in slave labor/slave trade, but these Africans empires were not monolithic in their business practices (AKA like Detroit and the Automobile)
Which is a very ignorant statement, which in your quotes already highlights they participated in other types of businesses and trade

I'm not sure you're reading your own quotes