Listening to old Kanye makes you hate his guts.

[Harry B]

yup but people refuse to see it cause they're blinded by their hate for his persona, even though aint nothing changed about kanye. Dude's been like this (an attention whore, @sshole, etc.) his whole career and anyone who says otherwise didnt start paying attention to dude until that Taylor Swift incident .

Most of these nikkas in the thread been hating on Kanye and now they are acting like the fukked with his old shyt , it's like clockwork.

Now Yeezus was very polarizing but most of his OG fans said Mbdtf was on the same level or better than his old shyt specially production wise, lyrically and creatively.


As far as the gossip shyt the TS is talking about, I don't know Kim nor his previous girlfriends all I know is that he's probably been fukking ratchet bytches since forever. And perhaps Kim gets him and treats him well? What else matters when you plan to spend the rest of your life together..

 

[LastEmperor2k2]

If you listen to a song like Family Business and try to imagine what his family dynamic is right now at Cassa Kardashian it does make you realize how he can no longer make music with the same level of soul and relatability..

It's the curse of a lot of rappers that make it big and lose touch.. He's just doing it on a really extreme level...

That's the exact feeling I got listening to "Never Let Me Down". That soul that was the signature of his music is so completely gone now, and it's sad.

 

[notorious8562]

I don't understand the love MBDTF gets. I think it's mediocre lyrically and just too much sonically. College Dropout and Late Registration are really the only Kanye albums I fukk with. Those two plus the unreleased shyt from that era is my Kanye West.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

He got better with each album

this is something people hate to acknowledge.

Disregard his antics off stage...cause SINCE THEN Kanye is one of the GOATs and has improved ever since then

 

[Calmye]

You're drinking a few brews..so you're drinking poison..shyt that corrodes ya mind and body and you're talking shyt about Ye? Look in the mirror

Go sit your ass down somewhere

 

[LastEmperor2k2]

I don't understand the love MBDTF gets. I think it's mediocre lyrically and just too much sonically. College Dropout and Late Registration are really the only Kanye albums I fukk with. Those two plus the unreleased shyt from that era is my Kanye West.

That album is good, but it lacks the replay value of his older stuff.

I think producer wise it might have been best work, but lyrically it was mostly forgettable

 

[LastEmperor2k2]

this is something people hate to acknowledge.

Disregard his antics off stage...cause SINCE THEN Kanye is one of the GOATs and has improved ever since then

What does he do do better? Please tell me, maybe the actual delivery has improved, but his lyrics have gotten more forgettable with every release.

And for an MC, having your lyrics be more and more forgettable is a very bad thing

 

[RTF]

I've been on HH mesageboards for about 11-12 years. A good 30% of people hated on his first few albums. Skip 10 years and now only a small handful of people admit to never liking his stuff. The other 25% now front like they loved LR and CD. And the young cats is full of shyt too.

 

[thernbroom]

College Dropout was such a remarkable album

: Kanye dropping this actually made it cool for people to be themselves in hip hop, which is something people don't give him credit for but before this joint dropped everyone in rap was a thug


Yeezy keeping hip hop alive


Thank god he didn't die in that accident

 

[RTF]

What does he do do better? Please tell me, maybe the actual delivery has improved, but his lyrics have gotten more forgettable with every release.

And for an MC, having your lyrics be more and more forgettable is a very bad thing

Everything is better. Literally the only thing CD has over any of the other albums the ideas behind some of the songs. You're not going to recreate Jesus Walks or Through The Wire for example.

The rapping is much better in every way (delivery, flow, word play, lyrical intelligence) and the production is much better. Technically, he's improved in every way.

There's not 1 aspect he's regressed in from CD except maybe lyrical content and that's really up for discussion. New Slaves or Black Skinheads are more poignant lyrically than anything on CD. New Slaves is basically All Falls Down from a somewhat insiders perspective.

It's the persona people hate. Which is fine. But let's not romanticise the "old Ye". He hasn't changed much.

 

[newworldafro]

i just popped in the Late Registration album randomly this week ...... so much depth and comedy in the lyrics, great features, top production ............................... what the hell happened Ye???

 

[notorious8562]

Everything is better. Literally the only thing CD has over any of the other albums the ideas behind some of the songs. You're not going to recreate Jesus Walks or Through The Wire for example.

The rapping is much better in every way (delivery, flow, word play, lyrical intelligence) and the production is much better. Technically, he's improved in every way.

There's not 1 aspect he's regressed in from CD except maybe lyrical content and that's really up for discussion. New Slaves or Black Skinheads are more poignant lyrically than anything on CD. New Slaves is basically All Falls Down from a somewhat insiders perspective.

It's the persona people hate. Which is fine. But let's not romanticise the "old Ye". He hasn't changed much.

I disagree with all of this. Both the lyrics and production are worse to my ears, and the biggest thing is that his music doesn't have that honesty that was so prevalent in his first couple of years.

 

[Milk N Cookies]

Kanye Kardashian needs to let Kanye West come back out to play.

 

[JohnB]

Kanye said he doesn't want to make the same album on every release, so of course you got dudes who want a specific sound. IMO he's the only hip hop artist that pushes hip hop to new limits.

 

[JohnB]

Everything is better. Literally the only thing CD has over any of the other albums the ideas behind some of the songs. You're not going to recreate Jesus Walks or Through The Wire for example.

The rapping is much better in every way (delivery, flow, word play, lyrical intelligence) and the production is much better. Technically, he's improved in every way.

There's not 1 aspect he's regressed in from CD except maybe lyrical content and that's really up for discussion. New Slaves or Black Skinheads are more poignant lyrically than anything on CD. New Slaves is basically All Falls Down from a somewhat insiders perspective.

It's the persona people hate. Which is fine. But let's not romanticise the "old Ye". He hasn't changed much.

Word dude got better in every way., Dude could release hip hops version of Pink Floyd's The Wall and nikkas still will be hatin.