Listening to old Kanye makes you hate his guts.

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I disagree with all of this. Both the lyrics and production are worse to my ears, and the biggest thing is that his music doesn't have that honesty that was so prevalent in his first couple of years.

Couldn't agree more.

He went from a unique voice to just another rapper spitting the same bullshyt as the next mc.
 
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Word dude got better in every way., Dude could release hip hops version of Pink Floyd's The Wall and nikkas still will be hatin.

His last album was the asbolute worst shyt he ever made.

At some point you lose any sense of self-regulation, he truly believes everything he makes is gold, that last album was evidence of that.

It was awful lyrically, sonically and every other way an album can be awful.
 

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Who said anything about relating?
I believe I did...

College Dropout was one of the most relatable albums that I ever heard (outside of Ressurection, Atliens and One Day It Will All Make Sense) I related much more to it than any Tupac, Nas, Ice Cube or Wu-Tang album although I'm huge fans of all of them..

Being relatable in itself doesn't make music good...But for someone like Kanye who is a marginally talented lyricist, with a shaky tone and delivery that relatability made up for his weaknesses to me..

Now that, thats gone I find myself less intrigued and attracted to his work.. As do the majority of his "Day 1 fans" as you can see from his steady decline in sales, popularity and influence..

But he doesn't HAVE to go backwards and I don't HAVE to move forward with him.. It is what it is.. He'll always have guys like Chris Brown and Harry B that will listen to audio of him spitting into a tin cup and call it genius...

:yeshrug:
 

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@LastEmperor2k2 I can relate to everything you said and I get it.

Last week I was listening to Graduation and had to turn it off like :heh: this nikka went back on ALL he said

I don't give a fukk tho cos he don't owe me shyt

But how he ended up who he is now ill never know.....
 

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i have accepted the old Kanye is probably gone
not like i didnt like some songs on Yeezus
absolutely hated MBDTF tho, his worse cd in my opinion
 

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Everything is better. Literally the only thing CD has over any of the other albums the ideas behind some of the songs. You're not going to recreate Jesus Walks or Through The Wire for example.

The rapping is much better in every way (delivery, flow, word play, lyrical intelligence) and the production is much better. Technically, he's improved in every way.

There's not 1 aspect he's regressed in from CD except maybe lyrical content and that's really up for discussion. New Slaves or Black Skinheads are more poignant lyrically than anything on CD. New Slaves is basically All Falls Down from a somewhat insiders perspective.

It's the persona people hate. Which is fine. But let's not romanticise the "old Ye". He hasn't changed much.
Damn..I disagree with damn near all of this shyt..lol
 

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CD & LR
Graduation
MBDTF
Yeezus

He gets worse every album. Just a lot of people started listening Kanye after Graduation, when he started making pop shyt like Stronger. Those the cacs that defend MBDTF and Yeezus.
Pre Graduation Ye was so good. You had LR and CD, and the mixtapes he did with Consequence were soul amazing.
 
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without the soulful production Kanye is ass, because he's not that good of a rapper
but also the soulful production brings out the the best in MC's because it subconsciously makes you feel emotions.
All He needs to do is go back to Soul Sampling and update the drums.
You see the only track people who cfukk with on Yeezy is that BOUND 2, and even that shyt is ass, but they fukk wit because of the soul sample
 

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Listening to new Kanye makes me hate his old stuff more than I did back then.

Don't get me wrong, I liked him back then. It's just that College Droput was boring. It fit perfectly for the keyboard warriors of decades past longing for 'real hip-hop' to make it back on the radio, though.

I kind of agree with this, his new shyt really made his first two album seem played out, they had classic son there no doubt but dark fantasy just musically kills his earlier work and I can appreciate him trying to do something different with Yeezus
 
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