LL Cool J vs. KRS-One

[inndaskKy]

Rakim ain't never off beat while Nas

But Lyrically Nas is the Son to the God EMCEE Rakim.

1. Rakim
2. Nas

Nas does go offbeat sometimes but that's only because he has a much more diverse flow whereas Ra's flow (and everybody that tried to imitate him back then) has the same flow 90% of the time. Don't get me wrong, it was revolutionary and you can't tell the story of rap without it, but to say it was never improved upon by albums like Illmatic? Nah..

Ra represents old school and that's that.

 

[King Biko]

yeah Rah Digga not Ra...the Anti God rapper ain't seeing the true God EMCEE!!

"I said i was amazin/Not that im a mason"

 

[the rhyme king]

rakim will rap circles around nas especially the 18th letter rakim

 

[Rakim Allah]

lol, many have better flow than rakim. he did pioneer modern flow but that doesn't mean it's the best.

who's this many?? I see and hear NO Competition!!

 

[JayBaldacci]

yeah Rah Digga not Ra...the Anti God rapper ain't seeing the true God EMCEE!!

what is he the best at though? since he's so untouchable.

 

[JayBaldacci]

who's this many?? I see and hear NO Competition!!

nas, ghost, g-rap, pun before he became morbidly obese, 90s nature, old eminem, az, biggie, old raekwon, etc.

 

[King Biko]

rakim will rap circles around nas especially the 18th letter rakim

 

[phatphuck]

but both are legends in they own right this is apples and oranges

 

[Rakim Allah]

Nas does go offbeat sometimes but that's only because he has a much more diverse flow whereas Ra's flow (and everybody that tried to imitate him back then) has the same flow 90% of the time. Don't get me wrong, it was revolutionary and you can't tell the story of rap without it, but to say it was never improved upon by albums like Illmatic? Nah..

Ra represents old school and that's that.

U just admitted that Nas ain't 1 hundred with the flow. Just show's a lot U cats don't know shyt bout flow.

Flowin for Ra is like us human's breathing...comes naturally. Can Nas rock over any BPM and no go off beat...Ra can.

Perfect Example. This at 122 BPMs. Ra is not flowin over the beat or on the beat or off the beat or even behind beat...he's flowin within the beat.

 

[JayBaldacci]

so u gone mention nature and not jay z....

and @ ghostface flow being better than rakims

ghost easily has one of the best flows. so does jay.

 

[inndaskKy]

Do you guys even understand what flow is? How else could you possibly think that the legends from the '90s haven't improved the old school flow drastically? That's like the single most important difference between 'old school' and 'new school'. It's all about the evolution of flow. It's not so much about multi's or content, it's the flow. You can tell within three seconds of hearing a verse whether it's from the '80s or '90s. Come one man..

 

[King Biko]

U just admitted that Nas ain't 1 hundred with the flow. Just show's a lot U cats don't know shyt bout flow.

Flowin for Ra is like us human's breathing...comes naturally. Can Nas rock over any BPM and no go off beat...Ra can.

Perfect Example. This at 122 BPMs. Ra is not flowin over the beat or on the beat or off the beat or even behind beat...he's flowin within the beat.
Eric B & Rakim - Let The Rhythm Hit 'Em - YouTube

jay with the flow>>>>>>>>

 

[JayBaldacci]

on top of that, nas could flow off beat and sound good. so can ghost and 96 ras kass. ra has to flow on beat. i've never heard ra effortlessly float on a beat like nas did on one plus one. thats a lot harder to than following snares.

 

[Rakim Allah]

nas, ghost, g-rap, pun before he became morbidly obese, 90s nature, old eminem, az, biggie, old raekwon, etc.

Nas goes off beat at times but he can flow
G Rap is right there but he stumbled here and there before he was just as good as Ra in his peak 95-98 period
@ Pun...he had to punch in a lot of his rhymes...FOH
EM was right there technically along with Black Thought and Moe Dee but he couldn't see Ra with the flow
Ghost and Rae ain't flowers they talkers...which they mastered
Biggie was right there along with Meth but they would sacrifice lyrics for the flow unlike Ra
at Nature
AZ was sick with the flow...Rather Unique is a great example. But he couldn't switch up his flow like Ra could.

Besides that Nature drop, not a bad list but No they ain't seein the Inventor and Master of Flow

 

[Rakim Allah]

Do you guys even understand what flow is? How else could you possibly think that the legends from the '90s haven't improved the old school flow drastically? That's like the single most important difference between 'old school' and 'new school'. It's all about the evolution of flow. It's not so much about multi's or content, it's the flow. You can tell within three seconds of hearing a verse whether it's from the '80s or '90s. Come one man..

No one improved on Ra's flow though!!