LOL @ "Hip hop doesn't influence the youth"

[call_me_step_daddy]

Anything can influence you if you let it

 

[director_of_bands]

@ 2:19-3:10

 

[Wild self]

@ 2:19-3:10

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[Pool_Shark]

Not gonna lie one of the reasons I tried yay was cause I kept hearing Gunplay rap about it.

 

[DougFunnY]

I don't want to see anyone in here under the age of 30 trying to get all old head, conservative 'back in my day' about misogynistic, negative music that promotes drug use and crime...seriously. Some of you are really putting up a front here.

You can be young, and still be aware of the effects that the industry has on your generation

 

[NotaPAWG]

Through punk music, I educated myself on the fukked upness of the police and the capitalist government. punk also saved me from committing suicide when i was 17.
Through hip hop I'm still educating myself further on the prior, but on racism as well and learning things about others cultures and history I wouldn't have been taught by white his-story

Hip hop has had a positive influence on me as a person..and it continues to do so. so in my opinion, i think it would be ridiculous to say music can't be a negative influence.

Anyone denying this is ridiculous, human beings are curious beings and we learn and pick up things from our environment and things we surround ourselves with.

 

[NotaPAWG]

I bet the same people ITT trying to claim hip hops non influence believe kanye and young thug are promoting homosexuality and the emasculation of the black man and are scared their non existent children might turn gay.

 

[Danie84]

Influence is universal

 

[OnlyInCalifornia]

You can be young, and still be aware of the effects that the industry has on your generation

What?

That's not the point of the comment at all. You can't be under 30 and talking about "back in my day" about music when it was very negative, misogynistic, and promoted violence as well.

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

main reason not a public enemy type group has ever reemerged...

name a public enemy type group that made music worth emerging on that level in the past 22 years.

 

[Mike Ock]

name a public enemy type group that made music worth emerging on that level in the past 22 years.

Dead Prez made some noise

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

so these babies sippin lean aint got shyt to do with hip hop? okay my g, i see you just disagreeing for the sake of disagreeing, and i can dig that, lol. aint no way a sane person can deny the influence, no way.

Yea, it influences them, but if they have active parents/are involved in positive activities, they're not likely to go out and do everything they heard in a song. Lean was sizzurp back in the day, and a lot of us tried it, ok, so are we the downfall of the world? You're supposed to be little reckless and easy to influence at that age (that's life), it's the influences around you and your own will that guides you from going too far or brings you out of it.

Unfortunately, most of the kids who are "bout that life" it's moreso due to growing up in shytty neighborhoods, going to shytty schools, not having active parents, not ever being part of anything constructive, and overall just being in the hood, this isnt just some well raised well provided for generation of kids listening to hip hop and deciding to be idiots

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

Dead Prez made some noise

dead prez was dope but theyre not comparable to PE.

i'll say this much, they couldve been a bit bigger if they werent marketed towards backpackers. word is that they were promoted that way on purpose.

Has little to do with the music. While it can take little blame, it's really the parents accountability. People need to learn how to raise kids.

I've said this before, that some people just shouldn't have kids. Also, I've said this before though, only kids with strong upbringings and strong heads should listen to this shyt.. The same can be said for all sorts of iniquitous media....

Kids are always gonna experiment with shyt and do crazy things, parents just got to make sure they don't jump too far off the bridge and have some sort of logic.

I listened to all sorts of rap growing up (everything)... I was never influenced by it the way others I grew up with were.

this post got ignored. nobody even dapped you until i did.

and thats just criminal.

GREAT POST.

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

is rap an influence? yes of course. it has both its negative & positve effects. but not on the level that yall are making it out to be.

yall complaining about this & that, but when i turn on the tube, the main rappers getting airtime arent even on that tip.

Yea, it influences them, but if they have active parents/are involved in positive activities, they're not likely to go out and do everything they heard in a song. Lean was sizzurp back in the day, and a lot of us tried it, ok, so are we the downfall of the world? You're supposed to be little reckless and easy to influence at that age (that's life), it's the influences around you and your own will that guides you from going too far or brings you out of it.

Unfortunately, most of the kids who are "bout that life" it's moreso due to growing up in shytty neighborhoods, going to shytty schools, not having active parents, not ever being part of anything constructive, and overall just being in the hood, this isnt just some well raised well provided for generation of kids listening to hip hop and deciding to be idiots

yup.

and to take it way back, before it was sizzurp, it was called LICK. and i rarely ever heard it rapped about on record, yet it was still popular. are we gonna blame rap for that too?

i knew about that stuff way back courtesy of the crowds that are currently in those late '30s - mid '50s age brackets.

definitely gotta cosign that last paragraph jim.

change is made from the inside out. the rappers, specifically the luminaries and the elder statesmen (26+), need to lead the charge.. c delores tucker and calvin butts aint "cool" to anybody, its easy to make them the enemy and to make them seem like the bitter aunts and uncles... no kid is following their lead. why can't jay-z or diddy or russell simmons gather all the rappers together and set a goal, to make being smart and being peaceful and being respectful of others "cool"? imagine if everything negative and destructive wasn't cool, can you even grasp that concept? imagine if lean and pills and objectifying women and being a gangsta and smoking a thousand blunts and selling dope was "square". The beats can remain the same, the bars, the cadences, the swag, etc... just a change of message, is that so unthinkable? I can honestly say that rap is far and away the biggest misuse/waste of power and influence in the history of mankind. with the influence this culture has over the youth I don't think it's far-fetched to say that rap and rappers could change the world, why not change it for the better?

being peaceful and respectful to others was ALWAYS considered cool actually. nobody likes niccas that run around starting chit.

as far as you pushing all this happy-land rap. as long as its not a reality, its never gonna happen.

"they want me to rap and gig, and speak positive/ well positive aint where i live". treach already broke it down for you on "ghetto b*stard". its not rocket science homie. rap isnt a dictatorship. its more of a reflection.

and theres been plenty of popular rappers on some anti-drug chit. i remember chubb rock and all them used to be jammin and the lyrics would even denounce weed. that aint stop nobody from smoking the chit tho.

 

[OnlyInCalifornia]

yup.

and to take it way back, before it was sizzurp, it was called LICK. and i rarely ever heard it rapped about on record, yet it was still popular. are we gonna blame rap for that too?

i knew about that stuff way back courtesy of the crowds that are currently in those late '30s - mid '50s age brackets.

definitely gotta cosign that last paragraph jim.

Pretty sure people were smoking weed before Hip Hop as well....

How come disco doesn't get blamed for coke use?