Lord Jamar: Max B Woulda Been Next

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

LOL. Do you understand the term you are using? You are the one who is misrepresenting my comment, not vice versa. I am talking about BLOWING UP, not doing well in Hip Hop. That's absurd. Why would that even be argued that if Max B didn't go to jail he could still be known in Hpi Hop

And no matter how much you like Max B, he's not the same level artist as Justin Timberlake. Don't show your hand of stan cards like that if you want to have a serious discussion.

Dawg, u are the one who is comparing Max to JT, not me

Making it sound like if Max cant reach Katy Perry's level hes not doing anything. NO RAPPER is on the level of JT or Katy Perry so why even bring them up

 

[OnlyInCalifornia]

Dawg, u are the one who is comparing Max to JT, not me

Making it sound like if Max cant reach Katy Perry's level hes not doing anything. NO RAPPER is on the level of JT or Katy Perry so why even bring them up

No, you are the one who is making that own narrative up in your mind breh. Not me.

 

[Wacky D]

He didn't have broader appeal out of people who were into gangsta rap / eastcoast Hip Hop.

If you think Max B could do songs with Katy Perry and Justin Timberlake, you are sadly mistaken.

Don't take it as me knocking him, I like his shyt. I just know that he's a male, hip hop head type artist. Not a everyone, jump between genres type artist.

this is exactly what i thought.

alot of you guys have been brainwashed into thinking that blowing up means being a sellout crossover artist. i guess ice cube wasnt running chit because he wasnt getting the same looks as vanilla ice.

when we say he had next, we're not talking about some bubblegum pop chit. if youre really hip-hop, youre supposed to look down on that type chit actually.

and lol @ max only having east coast appeal. are you even familiar with any of his catalog? WOW.

and i would rather that it not happen, but he actually can gel on a track with a katy perry, timberlake, etc.

Hes TOO WAVY is I guess what I am getting at.

LOL. Do you understand the term you are using? You are the one who is misrepresenting my comment, not vice versa. I am talking about BLOWING UP, not doing well in Hip Hop. That's absurd. Why would that even be argued that if Max B didn't go to jail he could still be known in Hpi Hop
And no matter how much you like Max B, he's not the same level artist as Justin Timberlake. Don't show your hand of stan cards like that if you want to have a serious discussion.

okay. i see what youre trying to say.

but when we say things like **insert rapper has next*** we're not thinking about or concerned with who crosses over to little jimmy & susie on teen nick.

we're thinking about whose on top of hip-hop. all the rest of that stuff is extra-curricular. its detrimental actually.

 

[Wild self]

U clearly dont know Max's music or following

Most of his shows were like 1/2 women... aka "the mainstream"

With the right push he could have brought NY back easy. He has a whole library of singles.

Even that, like someone said, he would be French Montana level. The south had too much momentum at that point for NY to counteract. Far too much. Besides, he came out in the WORST era (late 00s) where the internet didn't quite develop yet, where regionalism still mattered in rap, and NY was desperate to have a NY sound. On top of artists development that was cut from labels with the infamous 360 deals.

He wouldn't have had made it.

 

[Wacky D]

they got us brehs.

its to the point where they got us assuming that we have to "crossover" and cater to middle america in order to be a rap star.

and what comes out of this is a bunch of rappers chasing mass appeal and putting down horrible music in the process while dumbing down the culture as they look for acceptance.

genius move. we cant even discuss rap anymore without catering to their desires.

 

[ThaRealness]

Max B n Harry Fraud

 

[Wacky D]

Even that, like someone said, he would be French Montana level. The south had too much momentum at that point for NY to counteract. Far too much. Besides, he came out in the WORST era (late 00s) where the internet didn't quite develop yet, where regionalism still mattered in rap, and NY was desperate to have a NY sound. On top of artists development that was cut from labels with the infamous 360 deals.

He wouldn't have had made it.

why do yall keep saying he was french's level? why would he be at french's level when french was basically his flunky and a rapper that nobody ever took seriously? it makes no sense. especially considering all these max b juniors that are supposedly "stars" right now.

what some of yall dont realize is that max was to the late '00s what 50 cent was to the early '00s before the g-unit movement expanded.

and people arent drawing lines in the sand concerning where the music is from like yall be doing on here. if the south hears some east coast chit they like, theyll rock with it just as hard as the east coast. additionally, the south rocked with dipset heavy and they were still checking for them when max got booked, and obviously max is from the dipset lineage.

 

[Wild self]

why do yall keep saying he was french's level? why would he be at french's level when french was basically his flunky and a rapper that nobody ever took seriously? it makes no sense. especially considering all these max b juniors that are supposedly "stars" right now.

what some of yall dont realize is that max was to the late '00s what 50 cent was to the early '00s before the g-unit movement expanded.

and people arent drawing lines in the sand concerning where the music is from like yall be doing on here. if the south hears some east coast chit they like, theyll rock with it just as hard as the east coast. additionally, the south rocked with dipset heavy and they were still checking for them when max got booked, and obviously max is from the dipset lineage.

Max B may have had "swag" that mattered in making hits, but he couldn't capitalized in a time where Soulja Boy ruled the airwaves and one hit wonders ruled Hip Hop from 2005-2010. That was the worst time for a rapper to blow up without a Lil Wayne Co sign.

 

[Street Knowledge]

We need to have a discussion on what exactly is the definition of "crossing Over" and "mainstream" because from what im hearing it's basically any body who does songs with a bunch of white people and appears on shows like the View

 

[Wild self]

A lot of Ghost Writers that worked for great rappers don't have Mainstream appeal

Max B the rap version of Keri Hilson. He made monster hits for Jimmy, Cam, and other underground artists, but he would be a slightly more talented version of French that know how to rap.

 

[Redwing80]

Max was a lot like Big Pun...

I fukks with Max too but

 

[Redwing80]

No, he really wouldn't have. He isn't that type of artist. I do think he could have been solid though.

Man I never though French would make it and I was listening to him when he was doing the Cocaine City DVDs...

Max B had WAYY more appeal and bangers than French when they were running together. The mumbling shyt these mainstream rappers doing these days is what Max was doing way back. Maybe not superstar status but Max would be bigger than French IMO

 

[Wacky D]

Max B may have had "swag" that mattered in making hits, but he couldn't capitalized in a time where Soulja Boy ruled the airwaves and one hit wonders ruled Hip Hop from 2005-2010. That was the worst time for a rapper to blow up without a Lil Wayne Co sign.

one-hit wonders never rule anything breh.

 

[Wild self]

one-hit wonders never rule anything breh.

nobody needs a lil wayne cosign.

06-2010, if you were lyrical, you had NO shot of blowing up if you weren't from the south or rolling with YMCMB.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

Even that, like someone said, he would be French Montana level. The south had too much momentum at that point for NY to counteract. Far too much. Besides, he came out in the WORST era (late 00s) where the internet didn't quite develop yet, where regionalism still mattered in rap, and NY was desperate to have a NY sound. On top of artists development that was cut from labels with the infamous 360 deals.

He wouldn't have had made it.

Max B the rap version of Keri Hilson. He made monster hits for Jimmy, Cam, and other underground artists, but he would be a slightly more talented version of French that know how to rap.

The only legit point you made here is that he came out at a bad time.

Regionalism still mattered and NY was desperate to have an NY sound. Well Max repped Harlem to the death and had a NY sound that was relevant to that period of time. The south had too much momentum to counteract? People always want something different- this is why the South was able to rise, and why once they flooded the game with ring tone garbage shyt fizzled out to a region neutral sound. Which Max could easily have adopted to. Labels weren't developing artists? Max didn't need developing- in his time out of prison he developed himself more than most rappers out for 2-3x as long. It's to the point where I can hear a Max B song for the first time and know approximately when he made it- he has eras. And like I said he had a legit broad following in the Tri State area.... he was living off of show money, and all the footage of his shows is packed with women (aka the people who still buy albums). So what are you talking about? Don't you live uptown? How do you not know about Max' movement?

they got us brehs.

its to the point where they got us assuming that we have to "crossover" and cater to middle america in order to be a rap star.

and what comes out of this is a bunch of rappers chasing mass appeal and putting down horrible music in the process while dumbing down the culture as they look for acceptance.

genius move. we cant even discuss rap anymore without catering to their desires.

This nikka @OnlyInCalifornia talkin about "if a rapper cant do songs with Katy Perry he will never blow".... has Katy Perry even done songs with any rappers?

Rap is a black artform (sorry white brehs).... Max knew the importance of history and paid tribute to it in everythign... his name, his hooks, the beats he freestyled to, the constant evolution and development of his skills as a rapper and songwriter. These are the things that made hip hop great and he was IMO the LAST rapper to do it. No gimmicks, no forced street bullshyt, no pandering or compromising to the "mainstream".

But @OnlyInCalifornia wants rappers to do songs with JT and Katy Perry