Lord Jamar names rappers better than Eminem

[SirBiatch]

@Art Barr what's your take on Missy Elliot? fraud rapper?

 

[Art Barr]

I think RA would run circles around Eminem

Ra, is not on em's level.
if, he was.
he would have resonated in the manner em did and he did not.

both thread that line that is acceptable for white rapper content.
yet, em is way way nicer than ra.
ra, never set the whole world on fire like em.
Ra, set a decent fire for himself tho.

I can say that and ra is on point as an actual cultural intellectual as well.


Art Barr

 

[Art Barr]

@Art Barr what's your take on Missy Elliot? fraud rapper?

Rnb singer and one of the sellout artist to hiphop as a culture.
they used to precipitate the idea that hiphop was a form of music as a genre.
when hiphop is the culture.
yet, they perpetrated this idea that hiphop was separate from rap.
using all types of tricknology that had no basis in cultural merit or truth.


Art Barr

 

[Art Barr]

The only it rocky has is,..
as the guy the record company wanted to use as its label plant.
that would not drop the ball via pr.
past that, he is nowhere near a quality listen and it is all visuals and pr.
which do not resonate on a level anywhere near what he is the twenty year anniversary biter artist of artist in 1992/93.

Rocky is the ny equivalent of what if I took black moon style visuals and offkey buckshot shorty vibe style rhymes before he ramped up.
then, rapped like every weak double time rapper out west after snypaz debuted.
to later have their style bit by Twista.
on a lower level lyrically than twenty years ago.
in the same vein def loaf is the look alike brown skin version retread of boss who uses melody.
plus, can not be taken to task for being from auburn hills.
if you don't believe they market you guys inferior clones of the twenty years anniversary of 1992-94 era.

Look at this def loaf vid and then this boss video.


then see how similar boss and dej loaf look.

Dej loaf




Boss



then apply the same to any and every artist from that era that took off.
then, pay attention to the very obvious clone replacement of said artist from twenty years ago.
if they can't replicate the artist.
they replicate the movement from that time.
namely weed and x being sold still in stores.
now, it is all weed and molly, and double time records.
With a system of fake fraud rappers with undercover tom Mcc00n McCann-ism.
they only giving y'all wack fraud rappers disguised as talent.


Art Barr

shyt dej loaf and boss look so much alike.
the shyt is unreal!
to the point, I don't think it is a coincidence.
plus, I think I know who and what is behind this bullshyt, too.





Art Barr

 

[Jeepz]

Given a choice I'd listen to Relapse before SS anything.

And how in the fukk do you know what version of who they were co-signing?

Nothing wrong with not being an Eminem fan...but I continually see people who say they don't listen to him, never listened to him or haven't listened to him since XYZ also play like they are experts on his music while reducing his catalog to "fack".

Kool G Rap said SSEP era in his interview. Pay attention son.

And save for like 3 tracks, Relapse was

You listen to this over his old shyt?



"My step father said I sucked in the bed" ???

 

[SirBiatch]

Rnb singer and one of the sellout artist to hiphop as a culture.
they used to precipitate the idea that hiphop was a form of music as a genre.
when hiphop is the culture.
yet, they perpetrated this idea that hiphop was separate from rap.
using all types of tricknology that had no basis in cultural merit or truth.


Art Barr

Interesting. I thought you would say that.

and this is where the disconnect comes between you and I.

I grew up obsessed with Timbaland and Premo, and whatever key artists they worked with. Both are eclectic, but one is more warped, poppier and atmospheric, while the other is rawer, more cultural and grounded. You know who is who. Both still kept the drums hard and the beats minimalist which maintained the spirit of hip hop imo.

ASAP Rocky to me is basically a Missy Elliot-ish rapper. So is Lil B. and I love that. There's always room for that in hip hop. People who do weirdo groovy vibey stuff.

I can't find the video, but Bambaataa was saying how Missy Elliot was one of the last hip hop artists he genuinely liked. To him, hip hop is grounded and political like a KRS but can also go into grooving absurd space like a Busta or Missy. At the end of the day, all that matters is if you're progressive.

We know who's progressive and who's fronting like they're progressive.

And Rocky's mixtape is extremely progressive. So is Supa Dupa Fly. and Illmatic. And Criminal Minded.

edit:

@3:22

 

[DallasTxRep]

I would make a list but it would take too long.

A few named off the top though...

KRS-One
2 Pac
Nas
K-Rino
Biggie
Big Pun
Scarface
Brother Ali
Big Daddy Kane
Slick Rick
Z-Ro
Chuck D
AZ
Guru
Common
Raekwon
Talib Kweli
Last Emperor
Chino XL
Rakim
Wise Intelligent
Pharohe Monch
Canibus
Vinnie Paz
Immortal Technique
Bizzy Bone
Fat Joe
Cormega
Kool Moe Dee
Prodigy
Havoc
Big L
LL Cool J
Slug
Queen Latifah
Tragedy Khadafi

And that's all I have time to name for now but a lot more.

 

[Deadman187]

Jamar and Vlad are obsessed

 

[Swirv]

12:09-12:32

 

[I love Latina women]

So, are we basing actual skill on bullshyt like sales relevency, marketing permeation, now.
If we lay out the argument.
your stance would lose any, who is this or that discussion off gp, easily.


Art Barr

bruh

the point is eminem been done fell off and here it is 2015 and we waistin' time talkin' bout a mc who's clearly way past his prime and already made his mark years ago. muthafukkas is talkin' bout eminem like he actually still puttin' music with quality

 

[SirBiatch]

bruh

the point is eminem been done fell off and here it is 2015 and we waistin' time talkin' bout a mc who's clearly way past his prime and already made his mark years ago. muthafukkas is talkin' bout eminem like he actually still puttin' music with quality

even in his prime Em was terrible. I think these discussions are coming out now because people are starting to realize that.

 

[USSInsiders]

You are entitled to disagree, but like I mentioned I don't just think K-Rino is better than Eminem, I think he shyts on Eminem from a GREAT height. Since you haven't heard all K-Rino"s work though and are a troll I don't take your opinion seriously. I don't see how someone could say Eminem over K-Rino realistically because K-Rino is that much superior, from discography to lyrically to content to voice to conceptually and creatively. In 99 percent of cases i imagine anybody who said that would probably have some ignorance or bias there I feel. It's not even close, there may be some names on there that are closer, K-Rino isn't 1 of them. But people have a right to agree and disagree, I'm not tripping over that just strongly disagree.

Slug again I think has made much more timeless music that holds up. That shock value bullshyt gets old quick if people even fukked with it in the first place, Slug has classic songs on issues that are are substantive. Lyrically and MC wise it is arguable but as an artist I put Slug ahead certainly.

There's like 2-3 atmosphere songs I can stand. I'm not a troll either

 

[edzyy]

Em may be overrated, but MMLP is damn near a masterpiece.

 

[DJ Mart-Kos]

This guy probably thinks any rapper black is better than Em.

 

[FreshAIG]

This guy probably thinks any rapper black is better than Em.

You should actually watch the video.