Lupe Fiasco vs AZ Lyrically?

Better lyricist?


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Art Barr

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how is this even a question, considering if you know both artists' origin.

ask a question with no cultural research or knowledge and expose yourself, breh.


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how is this even a question, considering if you know both artists' origin.

ask a question with no cultural research or knowledge and expose yourself, breh.


Art Barr

The fukk are you talking about. Stop talking shyt man, you are ridiculous, Hip Hop isn't wrestling, stop treating it like it is. I will ask any and every question I want to, and there is literally nothing you can or will ever do to stop that. Answer the question or move on. The only 1 exposing themselves is you with your dumb ass comments, don't make me upset you again lol.
 

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People saying AZ can't switch his flow up didn't listen to his verses on 36 Seaons.

Also, I think Lupe Fiasco is a very good rapper but I also think he peaked lyrically after he dropped the Cool. Lasers was severely inconsistent and Food and Liquor II was just ok.Even in Enemy of the State and Friend of the People he was basically going back to his Farenheight flow.

AZ only has a so-so mixtape that is a black mark on his resume, but over dudes execution is flawless. The problem is that dude is so technically proficient that it just creates the illusion of not trying, I feel this way about Mos Def, as well. AZ is better lyricist by a considerable margin, dude actually is improving with age.
 

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The fukk are you talking about. Stop talking shyt man, you are ridiculous, Hip Hop isn't wrestling, stop treating it like it is. I will ask any and every question I want to, and there is literally nothing you can or will ever do to stop that. Answer the question or move on. The only 1 exposing themselves is you with your dumb ass comments, don't make me upset you again lol.


again,...
why ask a question, if you are so knowing.
when, real talk,..
wtf, type of off brand ass question is this.
For people who really know about the culture.
All, you are saying is you don't know.

ask, who is better...
the az biter, who retreads I used to love her mixed with nas/az every record.
with no actual upgrade jn technical skill or delivery whatsoever.
Just large overproduced parts on record.
Then tries to act like he did not create the overpoduced rap record. That is the sellout blueprint to pop commercial tap music, famn near for this era after trap.

all this shyt you ignored.
plus, az never fell off.

so wtf are you saying.

nikkaz always trying to put biters ahead of the real.
plus, don't really know none of the shyt they talk about.
Yet, supposedly some real heads and have the internet to do research

When, it is all a deflectionary phoney game.
to try to get fake props like they know some shyt about the culture.
you, not fooling real bboys cause real bboys don't ask these stoopid ass questions.
All because they know the culture/history/skillsets.
to not be fooled and ask these noob offbrand toy ass questions and comparisons.


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Straight out the fukkin' dungeons of rap
I think it's really wack lyrics along with wack flow/delivery/vocally etc. The lyrics may sound complex but when you actually listen to them and break them down, it's like are they really effective? And often the answer is no. It's not to shyt on Lupe, cause I like him at his best, but often people seem to overhype shyt because of how it sounds rather than what it is.

On his new song he has the bar...

"You're like a contemporary museum of art, that farts"

That isn't good lyrics/lyricism to me, no matter how anyone tries to put it, that shyt is terrible and he often has corny/ineffective pointless lyrics, it's very off putting. I like it when he's focused.

I don't think AZ always brings it lyrically for the most part. Street knowledge is a hugely diverse topic, but he's done all sorts with the storytelling/content etc...

EG:

Ho Happy Jackie
Fan Mail
Never Change
Your World Don't Stop
Street Life
Payback
Having My Baby
Do Me This Way
Good For Nothing
Dead End

Just a few off the top. Plenty of topics, he has the lyric rhyming style, storytelling (which is diverse), street shyt, G shyt, fly shyt. Conceptual, and he always brings it across, throughout his career I think he's been a consistent first rate lyricist. I can't say the same for Lupe who to me has flashes and misses.
one line doesnt invalidate hundreds of verses. Problem is, the line is out of context by itself as it's part of a mutliple-bar criticism of pretentious people (which is funny cause some of his own fans and even he himself could be like that lol).

You cant just take one line and judge it with Lupe cause there's so much connectivity with the OTHER lines that shyt wont see that good till you look at the big picture. Call it a generic "defense" of Lupe if you must but truth is that's the rapper that he is. He's not a punchline rapper that you can just take one random line and determine how he is.

and yea AZ will get on his storytelling shyt but most of it involves bytches or street shyt. That's not really stepping out of his comfort zone.

Meanwhile, you look at Lupe's debut, 90% of Food and Liquor is about something different in every song. Much more versatility than AZ tends to show.

That's all im gonna say on this topic though.
 

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look at this nikka shoes:mjlol:
 

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again,...
why ask a question, if you are so knowing.
when, real talk,..
wtf, type of off brand ass question is this.
For people who really know about the culture.
All, you are saying is you don't know.

ask, who is better...
the az biter, who retreads I used to love her mixed with nas/az every record.
with no actual upgrade jn technical skill or delivery whatsoever.
Just large overproduced parts on record.
Then tries to act like he did not create the overpoduced rap record. That is the sellout blueprint to pop commercial tap music, famn near for this era after trap.

all this shyt you ignored.
plus, az never fell off.

so wtf are you saying.

nikkaz always trying to put biters ahead of the real.
plus, don't really know none of the shyt they talk about.
Yet, supposedly some real heads and have the internet to do research

When, it is all a deflectionary phoney game.
to try to get fake props like they know some shyt about the culture.
you, not fooling real bboys cause real bboys don't ask these stoopid ass questions.
All because they know the culture/history/skillsets.
to not be fooled and ask these noob offbrand toy ass questions and comparisons.


Art Barr

It's a forum you fukking idiot lmao. The whole point is to create threads for discussion. You are mentally ill man, you really are and need help. You have some kind of mental disorder, you seem bipolar or schizophrenic.

Because someone poses a question for debate doesn't mean they don't have their own opinion on the answer. This is lunacy lol.

Hold up, is your response that AZ is better? Which is exactly what I'm saying? So what the fukk are you complaining about? Lol.

Someone creating a thread for people debate on a forum where you create threads? Find a hobby, because you clearly aren't living Hip Hop with this bullshyt ass response. This isn't a dictatorship and you aren't the ruler of shyt, so you aren't going to be telling me what I can and can't speak about, or anybody.

Lol at everything you said, I think you're ill, getting senile in your old age.
 

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It's a forum you fukking idiot lmao. The whole point is to create threads for discussion. You are mentally ill man, you really are and need help. You have some kind of mental disorder, you seem bipolar or schizophrenic.

Because someone poses a question for debate doesn't mean they don't have their own opinion on the answer. This is lunacy lol.

Hold up, is your response that AZ is better? Which is exactly what I'm saying? So what the fukk are you complaining about? Lol.

Someone creating a thread for people debate on a forum where you create threads? Find a hobby, because you clearly aren't living Hip Hop with this bullshyt ass response. This isn't a dictatorship and you aren't the ruler of shyt, so you aren't going to be telling me what I can and can't speak about, or anybody.

Lol at everything you said, I think you're ill, getting senile in your old age.


if you were about this culture.
you would stop giving biter nikkaz who culturally have nuffin their background culturally to stand on, praise.
that is completely not due,...
this thread is like asking if mic Geronimo is better than nas, and to this day.
I ain 't seen nobody that fukk'n dumb make that post.
this thread is chuckie from fresh levels of bullshyt about the punisher versus the xmen.

stfu, and get real about the culture and stop taking jax, little nikka.


next, you gon be asking us,...
who's better:
father mc or drake

nikka shut up with this bullshyt.


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one line doesnt invalidate hundreds of verses. Problem is, the line is out of context by itself as it's part of a mutliple-bar criticism of pretentious people (which is funny cause some of his own fans and even he himself could be like that lol).

You cant just take one line and judge it with Lupe cause there's so much connectivity with the OTHER lines that shyt wont see that good till you look at the big picture. Call it a generic "defense" of Lupe if you must but truth is that's the rapper that he is. He's not a punchline rapper that you can just take one random line and determine how he is.

and yea AZ will get on his storytelling shyt but most of it involves bytches or street shyt. That's not really stepping out of his comfort zone.

Meanwhile, you look at Lupe's debut, 90% of Food and Liquor is about something different in every song. Much more versatility than AZ tends to show.

That's all im gonna say on this topic though.

It's not just 1 line though, that's my point. He often has pseudo intellectual ineffective or corny bars. That's the issue. And it isn't a case of it going "over my head" or not being intelligent enough to understand it, because I listen to rappers more complex lyrically than Lupe and understand them fully. I think some people aren't intelligent to understand a lot of what Lupe says is bullshyt, or not dope. I give credit where credit is due, dude is a dope lyricist when he's focused. But them crossword puzzle raps or word association raps don't impress me, there is nothing impressive to me about that. Even in context of the verse it's still an awful line, some dudes wanna pick out Nas lines but ignore the multitude of corny/ineffective Lupe lines/verses/songs.

Like, I don't say this without knowledge of Lupe's work, I think I actually have every album and mixtape even. I probably rate F&L2 higher than most people do, even some Lupe fans, and there was certain songs on Lasers even where he brought his shyt across well. But I have to be real about all the work.

Not sure about that either, AZ has done political type joints too.
 
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