Macklemore is being used to paint the rest of hip-hop as 'uncivil'

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and when he wins the grammy for AOTY, i will post an offensive status on Facebook and block anyone who has an issue with it
 

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They are the media the people that group him into those categories for the award shows. When someone on tv or the radio discus him they say he is hip hop. I know its just their opinion, but they have the loudest voice and reach the most people, I just dont like how he is being considerd a bright spot in hip hop for all the wrong reasons.

It's like that man. He made two huge songs this year, talks about gayism in a positive light, that's right up mainstream America's alley. He is a safe artist, just like Taylor Swift, Will Smith, and other acts who are safe to be played at home with your kids. Don't let these folks get you in a riot because they don't really care about rap.
 

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While one being honest does have to take into account the destructive side of hip hop. For years mainstream shows have ignored more positive acts in hip hop. Some because they weren't selling platinum, others scared of pro-black messaging and themes of self-empowerment, but to act like there haven't been multitudes of positive black acts in hip hop is beyond simplistic. This isn't about changing the image, this is again about rewarding the white voice (a la eminem - dude was far from positive yet he was white and sold well). I love the article's use of the word "gentrification" because that's exactly what whites want to do with the genre, make it safe for them and to their liking.
Bro the fact is Macklemore IS exceptionally liberal for a platinum rapper. Straw men arguments of ''bu-bu-but *insert obscure black rapper* made a pro gay song why didn't cnn pick it up'' are what's simplistic

As for you're opinion on the mainstream ignoring 'positive' acts in hiphop, i strongly disagree. I think they are far more comfortable with 'positive' hiphop(excluding the militant kind). Critics and award shows were clearly more supportive of Kanye then 50 cent. One of my earliest hiphop memories is being annoyed at how the media wouldn't shut the fukk up about Lauryn Hills ''hiphop classic'' which was like 20% hiphop and ignoring DMX, i think Hov even boycotted the Grammies over that too.
 
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They wanna declaw the Tigers.


It's hypocritical as fukk.This whole damn country was founded on some corrupt/ uncivilized shyt.


All this shyt is connected.They have an agenda to turn all the male population into pussies and they're aiming at your kids.All that anti bullying shyt...gay rights/acceptance shyt..it's all propaganda.

We're men....we're supposed to be aggressive....just as long as you got some wisdom backing it up, it's all good.


But they're trying to get our young boys with this anti aggressive/anti bullying/ kumbaya/ passive p*ssy shyt.


I don't advocate bullying, but it's one of lifes first obstacles.It can be a character builder.The world's not going to coddle you.Once you step off that porch/ the confines of your humble abode, you're food for the sharks.Nobody's going to call timeout and say hey "look at this poor fella, he didn't know life's a bytch...let's cut him some slack"...nah...they're not going to give a fukk


It's some social engineering going on...operation pussification....and p*ssy ass parents are going along with it because the masses are asses

best post i've seen in a while


i fukking hate the anti bullying campaign. bullying happens in nature, and is a part of darwinism… if you can't handle simple barrages of words, you're not fit to make it into life and reproduce. right now however people think that it means we should stop bullying altogether. i fukking hate this culture man why can't this be the 90s again (except with young jeezy still rappin)
Agreed. Bullying should be permitted. But, the bullied coming back to school the next day and shooting the bullies should also be permitted. Exacting revenge builds character. So does being shot and surviving. Its a win-win.
 

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Bro the fact is Macklemore IS exceptionally liberal for a platinum rapper. The racial angel is the simplistic one, straw men arguments of ''bu-bu-but *insert obscure black rapper* made a pro gay song why didn't cnn pick it'' up are stupid, i've already explained why.

As for you're assessment of the mainstream ignoring 'positive acts in hiphop' i strongly disagree. I think they are far more comfortable with 'positive' hiphop(excluding the militant kind). Critics and award shows were clearly more supportive of Kanye then 50. One of my earliest hiphop memories is being annoyed at how the media wouldn't shut the fukk up about Lauryn Hills ''hiphop classic'' which was like 20% hiphop and ignoring DMX.
Breh, where were the accolades for common , mos def, talib - all successful in the black community back in the early 00's. where was the love for ATCQ, de la soul, queen latifah, and that whole native tongues movement? Where is the praise of cerebral nature of pharcyde and souls of mischief? You may choose to ignore the role race has in this, but it's a narrative that has been part of our existence in every phase of life in every generation, sorry, but this "cerebral, positive" force in rap has a lot to do with the color of the messenger and him moving rap over to something more palatable to the "liberal" hipster ass white kids who are doing the same to black culture and communities in day to day aspects of life.
 

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It's like that man. He made two huge songs this year, talks about gayism in a positive light, that's right up mainstream America's alley. He is a safe artist, just like Taylor Swift, Will Smith, and other acts who are safe to be played at home with your kids. Don't let these folks get you in a riot because they don't really care about rap.
I feel you... I was just saying
 

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Agreed. Bullying should be permitted. But, the bullied coming back to school the next day and shooting the bullies should also be permitted. Exacting revenge builds character. So does being shot and surviving. Its a win-win.
although this is a somewhat radical view, i can see why it makes sense to allow this… its tragic, but at the same time, life is tragic, get used to it
 

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Cacklemore going clean house at the Grammys and every other cac award show ou chea:mjpls:
 

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although this is a somewhat radical view, i can see why it makes sense to allow this… its tragic, but at the same time, life is tragic, get used to it
Hey, if the strong can prey on the weak, then the weak should be able to get guns and blow their brains out. Survival of the fittest.
 

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Breh, where were the accolades for common , mos def, talib - all successful in the black community back in the early 00's. where was the love for ATCQ, de la soul, queen latifah, and that whole native tongues movement? Where is the praise of cerebral nature of pharcyde and souls of mischief? You may choose to ignore the role race has in this, but it's a narrative that has been part of our existence in every phase of life in every generation, sorry, but this "cerebral, positive" force in rap has a lot to do with the color of the messenger and him moving rap over to something more palatable to the "liberal" hipster ass white kids who are doing the same to black culture and communities in day to day aspects of life.
You answered your own question right there. They're not comparable to Macklemore, Kanye, Kendrick etc. Anything before 97/98ish is before my time, i can't comment on the mainstream reception of 'positive' hiphop outside of my generation, i just know within my generation i've witnessed a clear bias towards these artists.

And for the record Im not one of these i see no color we have a black president dummies, i just don't think race is as definitive in this situation as some claim
 
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