Mariota is overrated!

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Can't wait to the draft season when emthe 'experts' will talk about everything about this guy that doesn't have to do with actually being a great QB, only for the coli to fall for it yet again by the draft rolls around.

"Oh he he just ran a 4.39 40"

"Oh he displayed great accuracy in college"

"Oh he won the Heisman"

"Oh he beat Winston head to head"

"Oh he's so very young"

"Oh look at that cannon on 'em"
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Can't wait for that media agenda trying to push Mariota as the best QB in the draft..
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Can't wait for that media agenda trying to push Mariota as the best QB in the draft..
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Only because of image breh. I've seen far too many people say that Jameis is the superior QB. The INTs this year have given me some pause, like he's pressing too much since FSU's defense is suspect and he knows he needs 7 every time out. However, Jameis does things that you just don't teach. Either you have it or you don't. The intangibles. Jameis does, Marcus does not.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...-is-jameis-winston-still-an-elite-qb-prospect

Conclusion
Whenever scouts evaluate blue-chip prospects, they attempt to find a "good" and "bad" tape to watch to see a player at his highest and lowest points of his final season. The exercise is done to get a real sense of a player's strengths and weaknesses to determine their ultimate potential as pros. Watching Winston's season-long struggles with turnovers and mechanics, I believe he is a talented but flawed prospect who will need time to develop at the next level.

While he has the talent, confidence, football IQ and charismatic leadership skills to be a franchise quarterback, Winston has only 25 games of major college experience under his belt and hasn't had enough repetitions to master the nuances of the position. Thus, a team interested in taking Winston as a franchise quarterback needs to have a strong teacher in place in the quarterback room as well as a game plan to foster his development as a young quarterback.

Although he remains the top quarterback prospect in college football with valuable experience running a pro-style system, he is not a plug-and-play prospect who can step in and lead a team from Day 1. In time, I believe Winston will be a franchise player, but his 2014 struggles suggest a patient approach might be best for the team that selects him if he comes out following his sophomore season.
 

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Yes, I think Winston is the better QB as well, but I think Mariotta can be good but he is not gonna be am all star QB in the NFL, while I think Winston has a lot of the intangibles and a good pocket presence.
 

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never seen so many excuses for greatness.

he shoulda had an interception! did you see that one overthrow.

meanwhile he got 5 TDs. the real hatred for Mariota comes from knowing he was a better athlete than you ever were in your life when he was 9.:russ:

that and this site is a bunch of psychopath racists
 

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Wait, did the OP seriously use Mariota's deep-ball stats to rip on him? Mariota led the nation on deep-ball completions this year (56) and was 2nd in the nation on deep-ball accuracy (54%). One game see started off a bit over-amped (before calming down and going 11-11 in the 3rd quarter) doesn't take away a season of greatness.

Winston's best case scenario is Roethlisberger. Mariota's best case scenario is Randall Cunningham. Either one might be great, might flame out.
 

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You'd be foolish not to take his numbers with a grain of salt. I don't trust any QB that didn't play in a pro style offense in college. I don't trust QB's that don't audible or at least have some control over the offense. College QB's in general are babied. Playing QB is more mental than anything. Yeah you have to have the physical tools but if you're not on point mentally, what's the point. nikkas try to bring that college brand of football to the NFL and they will get ate up.
 

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Of course you can't take the numbers straight-up. But the intangibles you're trying to weaken his case with (spread offense) are easily offset by all the factors on the other side (beaten one big defense after another with inexperienced WRs, a patchwork O-line, #1 RB out, etc.).

If you'd seen what Mariota has done while he's gone throw what he's gone through the last three years, you wouldn't question his mental skills. A guy doesn't need to play pro-style to show that he has the decision-making tools to succeed in the NFL. Mariota is the first spread QB to have shown this combination of athleticism, arm, and intelligence on his reads, and the first one to have shown this much success against this quality of defense. You can't compare him to anyone who has come out recently.
 

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Mariota looks smaller than Jameis:
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Of course you can't take the numbers straight-up. But the intangibles you're trying to weaken his case with (spread offense) are easily offset by all the factors on the other side (beaten one big defense after another with inexperienced WRs, a patchwork O-line, #1 RB out, etc.).

If you'd seen what Mariota has done while he's gone throw what he's gone through the last three years, you wouldn't question his mental skills. A guy doesn't need to play pro-style to show that he has the decision-making tools to succeed in the NFL. Mariota is the first spread QB to have shown this combination of athleticism, arm, and intelligence on his reads, and the first one to have shown this much success against this quality of defense. You can't compare him to anyone who has come out recently.


nikka what? :what:
 

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Read and weep, boys. Mariota is going to bust just like Midget Manziel. You heard it here first.:lolbron:
 

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Thats pretty much Chip's Eagles offense and pretty much what Oregon runs breh with some read option too. It's more complex and deals a lot in mathematic match ups. I found a couple articles on it, you should look it up :ehh: I thought it was a pretty interesting read.

@Pesci is right. The West Coast system involves short timing and intermediate timing routes. Most West Coast QBs can accurately throw short timing routes; what makes or breaks a West Coast type QB are the deeper intermediate routes that require a cocktail of footwork, timing and accuracy. These throws have a high degree of difficulty and assumes special talent on the part of any West Coast QB (i.e. something close to Tom Brady's competency). Chip's system is more about scheming easy deep throws with movement. His QBs don't attempt very many difficult throws like a West Coast QB does. Thereon Chip has very low QB failure rates.
 

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If Hundley is better in NFL then yes if not then you are wrong.
 
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