Matt Harvey agrees with 180 innings limit

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This is why I hate new York fans. A bunch of entitled pricks. You motherfukkers haven't won shyt since 86 but feels like a somebody owes you something. :pacspit:
Yeah. We should all be ecstatic that our ace and our beacon of hope for the last 3 years is ready to shut himself down in fukking September when we're actually playoff contenders for the first time in almost a decade. :dead:
 

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1. Um... because my doctor told me to trip
2. The Mets are in this position because the Nationals are handing it to them. I could see if the Mets had the best record in baseball, had a stacked lineup and were a lock to come out of the NL. But they're not.
3. All the more reason to shut it down. What if he pitches deep into the post season and it catches up with him next season? Why risk it?
The doctor offered a GUIDELINE. It's a guideline a lot of teams reference. It's hardly a firm number. 180 is usually mentioned because anything above that historically tends to lead to guys not being as good the following year (the Verducci rule is what it's sometimes called)

Have you seen the Mets' rotation? All they were missing was offense. Now they have that. The Mets are a legit World Series contender, probably more of a contender in October than OUR team. Keep that in mind.

3. All the more reason to shut it down. What if he pitches deep into the post season and it catches up with him next season? Why risk it?

You're playing this season NOW. You play for a ring. You play for NOW. If you're worried about next year during a pennant race in a division where you claim a team that's better than them is handing it to them, then you don't give a fukk about winning. Now who wants to pay a guy who doesn't give a fukk about winning?

Now Strasburg is a high maintenance overrated pitcher, but at least it was out of his hands when he got shut down.
 

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Nikkas mad at an athlete for worrying about his paper :mjpls:


where have i seen this before :mjpls:



Use those innings wisely mets :umad:
Other athletes do this BEFORE the season. This guy's doing it at the END of the season and he isn't a free agent until 2019. He's also been bytching about innings limits and 6-man rotations all year until just now. :mjpls:
 
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The doctor offered a GUIDELINE. It's a guideline a lot of teams reference. It's hardly a firm number. 180 is usually mentioned because anything above that historically tends to lead to guys not being as good the following year (the Verducci rule is what it's sometimes called)

Have you seen the Mets' rotation? All they were missing was offense. Now they have that. The Mets are a legit World Series contender, probably more of a contender in October than OUR team. Keep that in mind.



You're playing this season NOW. You play for a ring. You play for NOW. If you're worried about next year during a pennant race in a division where you claim a team that's better than them is handing it to them, then you don't give a fukk about winning. Now who wants to pay a guy who doesn't give a fukk about winning?

Now Strasburg is a high maintenance overrated pitcher, but at least it was out of his hands when he got shut down.

1. Well you can't knock Harvey for not wanting to risking his value at this stage of his career.
2. That's the TEAM's problem to worry about not the player. Right NOW Harvey is still playing under a rookie deal. He's making less than 500k a year and he's one of the best pitchers in MLB. Right NOW the Mets are getting his services at a bargin. Right NOW he's a better pitcher than Bartolo Colon who making 9 million this year. Right NOW he's under paid and won't hit free agency until he's 30 or 31. IF there is a slight possibility he won't be as good a year or two from now the Mets can low ball him. Why risk it? A players reality and a GM's reality are two different things. And the fans... fukk the fans.
 

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Nikkas mad at an athlete for worrying about his paper :mjpls:


where have i seen this before :mjpls:



Use those innings wisely mets :umad:
here's what you're forgetting. If he really dreams about wanting to be a Yankee one day and all that, the Yankees wouldn't pay someone who would do that shyt. they'd overpay the shyt outta him if he DID pitch in the postseason.

That innings limit prevents absolutely nothing
 

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Other athletes do this BEFORE the season. This guy's doing it at the END of the season and he isn't a free agent until 2019. He's also been bytching about innings limits and 6-man rotation all year until just now. :mjpls:

So you're saying the Mets KNEW the guidelines the doctors gave but didn't bother to ask Harvey in May or even June? That's their fault.
 

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here's what you're forgetting. If he really dreams about wanting to be a Yankee one day and all that, the Yankees wouldn't pay someone who would do that shyt. they'd overpay the shyt outta him if he DID pitch in the postseason.

That innings limit prevents absolutely nothing

:mjpls: The Yankees would gladly pay Harvey right now with less than 10 innings left over a healthy CC Sabathia
 

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This is why I hate new York fans. A bunch of entitled pricks. You motherfukkers haven't won shyt since 86 but feels like a somebody owes you something. :pacspit:

The fukking irony. :heh:
How the fukk are you writing that BS as a part of one of the most obnoxious, spoiled fanbases in sports and a New York team no less?
 

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1. Well you can't knock Harvey for not wanting to risking his value at this stage of his career.
2. That's the TEAM's problem to worry about not the player. Right NOW Harvey is still playing under a rookie deal. He's making less than 500k a year and he's one of the best pitchers in MLB. Right NOW the Mets are getting his services at a bargin. Right NOW he's a better pitcher than Bartolo Colon who making 9 million this year. Right NOW he's under paid and won't hit free agency until he's 30 or 31. IF there is a slight possibility he won't be as good a year or two from now the Mets can low ball him. Why risk it? A players reality and a GM's reality are two different things. And the fans... fukk the fans.
He's not a free agent til 2019. What would happen to Harvey that couldn't happen to him on Tuesday, while he's under his innings limit?

If he's worried about the innings limit, why did he bytch about a 6 man rotation that would space out his starts and give him more rest? If he knew this would be a problem, why did he run his mouth about pitching in October? If he's worried about the limit, why does Harvey bytch whenever Collins yanks him from a game?

Matter of fact, there's nothing that even indicates that if he pitches exactly 180 innings, he'll be great from there on out. For all anyone knows, he could suck next year. He could blow his arm out again. If the risk is that great to him, why is he pitching now? (mind you, once the Mets clinch, they'll shut him down anyway til the playoffs. We're talking about 5-6 extra starts in OCTOBER. Pitching well in it only makes you money regardless).
 

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So you're saying the Mets KNEW the guidelines the doctors gave but didn't bother to ask Harvey in May or even June? That's their fault.
You ignorant fool. :heh:

The Mets were proposing a 6-man rotation and using it until Matz went down; Harvey was bytching about it and didn't want an innings limit because he wanted to pitch in the postseason. You're making a complete ass of yourself. :smhkobe:
 

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Also, if Harvey is that upset about his current contract situation, he needs to be mad at his agent, not the Mets.
 

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:mjpls: The Yankees would gladly pay Harvey right now with less than 10 innings left over a healthy CC Sabathia
The Yankees would tell Harvey to suck a dikk if he's talking about not wanting to go in October. The Yankees gave CC Sabathia $161 million BECAUSE he was going on 3 days rest busting his ass getting Milwaukee to the playoffs. CC would fukk up Harvey he would look like two-face just off CC's bruising

Nova's not on an innings limit and he came back from TJ Surgery FASTER than Harvey. Severino was recommended to go no more than 150 innings this year. Girardi's not holding him to any limits.
 
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